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If you fancy something to get you ready for the Apache I can't recommend "Apache over Libya" highly enough.

Written by Will Laidlaw who was the CO of 4 British Army Apache's deployed to the Helicopter assault ship Hms Ocean in the summer of 2011.

 

What started as a 6 week training deployment to the Med, to refine the types use on board ships turned into full on involvement in the Civil war in Libya. 

With 116 targets destroyed and numerous ProGad soldiers engaged with the cannon the small force was in the thick of the action. 

Engaged by SA-24 manpads, locked up by SA-6 and SA-5 this was a different fight than the highly experienced pilots were use to in Helmand where dominance in the air was the norm. Its a totally different read than say Apache dawn.

The missions are described in detail, the careful planning to get through the dangerous costal zone, the attacks and the hair raising trips back to a ship that isn't always where it is supposed to be. Even has the YouTube links to the footage from the missions you are reading about.

 

Great read, loads of useful insight of how to fight an Apache, flying from a carrier, what's not to loved about this book.

 

 

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2 hours ago, whiteladder said:

If you fancy something to get you ready for the Apache I can't recommend "Apache over Libya" highly enough.

Written by Will Laidlaw who was the CO of 4 British Army Apache's deployed to the Helicopter assault ship Hms Ocean in the summer of 2011.

 

What started as a 6 week training deployment to the Med, to refine the types use on board ships turned into full on involvement in the Civil war in Libya. 

With 116 targets destroyed and numerous ProGad soldiers engaged with the cannon the small force was in the thick of the action. 

Engaged by SA-24 manpads, locked up by SA-6 and SA-5 this was a different fight than the highly experienced pilots were use to in Helmand where dominance in the air was the norm. Its a totally different read than say Apache dawn.

The missions are described in detail, the careful planning to get through the dangerous costal zone, the attacks and the hair raising trips back to a ship that isn't always where it is supposed to be. Even has the YouTube links to the footage from the missions you are reading about.

 

Great read, loads of useful insight of how to fight an Apache, flying from a carrier, what's not to loved about this book.

 

 

 

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up...always after new books 😀.

 

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Thanks for the recommendation. Haven't heard about this book so far, so this is great to know. I've read Apache Dawn and @Ed Macy's books, so I will definitely read that one as well!

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Ordered, thanks for the recommendation.

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Ordered!  Looking forward to it!

 

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Thanks for the rec, ordered. No intention of purchasing the Apache at all lol,  but do enjoy a good operators account in a machine like this.

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Very enjoyable book.

Nice to read about the Apache flying against advanced missiles.

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I went for Ed Macy's: Apache

(Is this "@Ed Macy" the actual author?)

 

Anyway, I can also highly reccomend this book :thumbup:

 

 

 

(Will probably pick up Apache over Libya once I finished it 😉)


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I recently read this book.  It was light on details as far as actually flying the Apache.  A lot of background and such on using it from a sea borne platform and dealing with Brit beauracracy.  I guess I was hoping for something more like Ed Macy's excellent books.  

 

There is a book on Amazon called, I believe, Riding the Dragon, by a guy going by the name of Steve Stone.  It is horribly written and I believe a lot of it is plagarized from Ed Macys books, but its only like 99 cents so if you are desperate for something to read with the Apache in it and can overlook really poor writing, give it a whirl.  

 

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Apache over Libya is great read and gives a nice overview of wartime missions in an unusual environment.

I'm currently reading Ed Macey's "Hellfire". This is a great read so far, especially as he also describes the operation of the Apache from within the Cockpit quite well, in fair detail.

Its entertaining yet technical. I'm definitely going to read his other book too.
 

All the above written from British Aviator's (AAC) point of view, which I am sure will be quite different from US Army aviators. Can anyone recommend books written from a US perspective? 


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