coming soon Vipers' centerline Jammer pods

[Niehorst]

It's quiet some time, but I'm sure there was at least one ECM pod available for the Viper at EA.

Where is it gone? Can't load it anymore...

[_SteelFalcon_]

42 minutes ago, Niehorst said:

It's quiet some time, but I'm sure there was at least one ECM pod available for the Viper at EA.

Where is it gone? Can't load it anymore...

There‘s no jammer pod yet released

[jurinko]

It is available only for old F16 model AI (quick dogfight mission 4:4 MiG-29S vs F-16)

[Dragon1-1]

There should be one in the next update, and I really hope they make the ECM panel at least somewhat functional. I think the specifics might be classified, but the general principles of jammer operations are not. It should work a lot like in the A-10C, only with physical buttons for selecting presets instead of the up-front control box.

[Ignition]

3 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

There should be one in the next update, and I really hope they make the ECM panel at least somewhat functional. I think the specifics might be classified, but the general principles of jammer operations are not. It should work a lot like in the A-10C, only with physical buttons for selecting presets instead of the up-front control box.

There wasn't any mention of the jammer for the next update, only a wags video but no mention about it. They may be working on it.

I hope ED unify the jammer effects across all modules so every aircraft can be affected by the ECM.

[Dragon1-1]

Wags did tease the ECM pod in his last Viper video.  He seldom does that unless the teased feature is gonna be the focus of the next video he's doing. I might have jumped to conclusions a bit here, but I'm pretty sure it's coming sooner than later.

[Spurts]

Like all the HARM mode videos teasing new clouds.  And yeah, that ECM pod was the first thing I keyed to in the video.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Spurts

[Chain_1]

The Viper Roadmap still has the ecm pods for 2021.  Time will tell.

[Bananabrai]

I remember that one or two years ago ED mentioned to hire 2 EW experts (to unknown extend) to improve the EW stuff, correct me if I am wrong.
The Hornet is already a better example than the default jamming behaviour, maybe it's a testbed, like the Hind for human cargo or AH-64 for FLIR, wasn't it somehing like this?

Anyway, some basic stuff like "range gate pull off" or "velocity gate pull off" is pretty known by now, would be nice to have this. 
My experience tells me the push buttons on the ECM should be for something like this, some sort of "mission mode" or library change.
Exact freuquencies or PRFs don't even matter for us as players anyway, I consider it already as a "nice to have"/"attention to detail" if the bands match up.

Don't know about deception, barrage, etc. jamming, but as we say over here, everybody uses water for cooking...

[Ignition]

Does the AN/ALQ-131 and 184 work in 360º or do they work in a cone?

Also, how do these jammers compare vs the internal jammer of the F-18 or F-15?

IMO its not so easy to implement the ECM even if they do a very simplified version. It needs to affect AI (ground and air) and it needs to affect other modules from different developers, which of course it depends on each developer.

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Ignition

[ST0RM]

17 hours ago, Chain_1 said:

The Viper Roadmap still has the ecm pods for 2021.  Time will tell.

HTS/HAS is still half-baked, so I seriously doubt ECM will make 2021. 

[Frederf]

On 12/7/2021 at 10:12 AM, Ignition said:

Does the AN/ALQ-131 and 184 work in 360º or do they work in a cone?

Also, how do these jammers compare vs the internal jammer of the F-18 or F-15?

IMO its not so easy to implement the ECM even if they do a very simplified version. It needs to affect AI (ground and air) and it needs to affect other modules from different developers, which of course it depends on each developer.

 

 

ALQ-184 (and I assume -131) act generally in the direction of their fore/aft antennas. It's a picture of an electron orbital but roughly the shape I mean:

Abeam is not so good. No idea how ALQ compares to internal (some F-16 have internal as well). I agree that EW sounds like a challenging pursuit.

[Dragon1-1]

I was right, it'll be in the next video.  Wags just said so in the last one. If nothing goes wrong (and it might), it'll be in the next update.

[Jackjack171]

In the Official News there was a pic of it. I'd hate to be so pedantic but does the ECM pod look shorter than it should be? Or is this a different pod?

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[Northstar98]

6 hours ago, Jackjack171 said:

In the Official News there was a pic of it. I'd hate to be so pedantic but does the ECM pod look shorter than it should be? Or is this a different pod?

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They both look like AN/ALQ-184s, which come in long and short versions; your image seems to depict a long variant whereas the F-16 development screenshot shows a shorter one.

Both have high quality models in the files, so presumably we'll get both (though things like RADAR bands aren't present in DCS as of yet).

Edited December 11, 2021 by Northstar98

[FoxOne007]

35 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

They both look like AN/ALQ-184s, which come in long and short versions; your image seems to depict a long variant whereas the F-16 development screenshot shows a shorter one.

Both have high quality models in the files, so presumably we'll get both (though things like RADAR bands aren't present in DCS as of yet).

 

We should be getting the long one soon. And hopefully never see the short version ever again. 

[Jackjack171]

4 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

They both look like AN/ALQ-184s, which come in long and short versions; your image seems to depict a long variant whereas the F-16 development screenshot shows a shorter one.

Both have high quality models in the files, so presumably we'll get both (though things like RADAR bands aren't present in DCS as of yet).

 

Thanks @Northstar98

4 hours ago, FoxOne007 said:

We should be getting the long one soon. And hopefully never see the short version ever again. 

Indeed!

[Dragon1-1]

It's official, check out the video. We're getting all three pods, and the ECM panel works. Simpler than I thought, but that's all right. They'll be improving the ECM simulation, but what we're getting (presumably) in the next update will be a lot like ASPJ on the Hornet.