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Rogue Trooper

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Yes, my wallet is ready.

If you look at the Apache cockpit it is just MFDs that pretty much run the entire show.... I would like to get these right from the get go.

For me the price is ok, the Apache MFDs are quite unique so this somewhat limits sales to mostly Apache Sim Pilots. Although the Apache MFDs would certainly help if we got a KA-52!!! 

How high are the gates separating each button and any photos of that?  

I am a VR pilot only, the gates give a nice reference to where your fingers are when feeling your way to pressing buttons. Are the white lines from the centre of each button printed white or 3 dimensional and white?

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HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled.

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!.

Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.

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Total Controls is right now cooking up something new. An Apache MFD frame sized as the real deal. The buttons will be backlit with adjustable lighting. The VID-knob will have a center detent just like

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Status report: I know many of you are eagerly awaiting the Apache MPDs from Total Controls. Here is the current situation: Molds have been made for the custom knobs. Production is ongoing. M

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We are still aiming for about 120€ for each frame. VAT will be added in the EU. It all depends on what prices we can get from manufacturers. Everything is fluctuating right now, but this is our aim. 

Coyote_One

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On 12/23/2021 at 10:38 AM, JackFlash said:

This is spot on. Just the molds for the buttons and the housing sums up to around 10k USD. Sure, if we sell 5000 the price would go down, but that’s not in reach I recon. 
I think i.e Virpil has a markup at around 50%. We won’t make that much in this device. We do it because it’s fun and hopefully we make a small profit, but it won’t make us millions. You could compare to the TekCreations frame on their homepage, and I still think we have a better product. 
The device have 2 potentiometers and a three position switch. 

Im SOOOO ready for this to drop 🙂 Just need to get another MFD monitor on top of the 2 I already have built xD

 

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On 12/25/2021 at 11:37 PM, Lixma 06 said:

Would you consider, if there was sufficient interest, doing an ABRIS 'strip'?

One standard rotary, one infinite encoder with push, and five buttons. Just velcro the thing to the edge of the desk or wherever.

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+1 That would be awesome. Just a bar I could Velcro to my bezel below the exported image of the Abris. 

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JackFlash

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On 12/29/2021 at 4:40 PM, Rogue Trooper said:

Yes, my wallet is ready.

If you look at the Apache cockpit it is just MFDs that pretty much run the entire show.... I would like to get these right from the get go.

For me the price is ok, the Apache MFDs are quite unique so this somewhat limits sales to mostly Apache Sim Pilots. Although the Apache MFDs would certainly help if we got a KA-52!!! 

How high are the gates separating each button and any photos of that?  

I am a VR pilot only, the gates give a nice reference to where your fingers are when feeling your way to pressing buttons. Are the white lines from the centre of each button printed white or 3 dimensional and white?

 

The gates are about 2,5 mm high. It will be easy do distinguish each button via the gates in VR. The lines are printed and not tactile at all. 

My latest project, the Multi Function Button Box can be found at Kickstarter.

JackFlash

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On 12/26/2021 at 8:37 AM, Lixma 06 said:

Would you consider, if there was sufficient interest, doing an ABRIS 'strip'?

One standard rotary, one infinite encoder with push, and five buttons. Just velcro the thing to the edge of the desk or wherever.

abris strip.jpg

 

Well, I realized that we do have the realestate on the board. We might do something about it. 🙂

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Rogue Trooper

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On 12/30/2021 at 5:38 PM, JackFlash said:

The gates are about 2,5 mm high. It will be easy do distinguish each button via the gates in VR. The lines are printed and not tactile at all. 

Nice, they looked pretty high in the image.

Should allow me to run my fingers across the gates whilst mentally counting the position without accidently activating the buttons. For sure they will be physically modified to further ensure confidence in finger position at each medial position.

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HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled.

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!.

Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.

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Marshallman

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I'm up for two of these when theyre ready!!

Anyone got a source for screens?

 

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6 hours ago, Marshallman said:

I'm up for two of these when theyre ready!!

Anyone got a source for screens?

 

 

An iPad would be great for screen. Just looking for a way to export the MPD to an iPad. Any developer out there? Send me a DM 🙂

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Rogue Trooper

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What is the update on availability JackFlash, DCS weapon release is imminent.

HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled.

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!.

Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.

JackFlash

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15 hours ago, Rogue Trooper said:

What is the update on availability JackFlash, DCS weapon release is imminent.

We are still working on the software. Will keep you updated closer to release 🙂

My latest project, the Multi Function Button Box can be found at Kickstarter.

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Pikas62

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I will definitely get a bundle of two👍.  Can you tell me something about the size so I can prepare the rest of my cockpit?

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JackFlash

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4 hours ago, Pikas62 said:

I will definitely get a bundle of two👍.  Can you tell me something about the size so I can prepare the rest of my cockpit?

I sure can. They are pretty huge, but 1:1 compared to the real thing. Outer measures  is 213 mm and frame size is 158x158 mm. 

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Bedouin

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5 hours ago, JackFlash said:

I sure can. They are pretty huge, but 1:1 compared to the real thing. Outer measures  is 213 mm and frame size is 158x158 mm. 

Thanks, got the cockpit ready, just need them 😄 any word on when we can start to pre-order?

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Pikas62

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6 hours ago, JackFlash said:

I sure can. They are pretty huge, but 1:1 compared to the real thing. Outer measures  is 213 mm and frame size is 158x158 mm. 

Thank you for the info 👍! Can´t wait to order a pair of them.

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Cockpit & HOTAS: VKB Gunfighter MKIII with MCG PRO, Vipril MT-50 CM2, Virpil Rotor Plus & SharKa-50 grip, Thrustmaster TPR, Virpil SharKa-50 Control Panel, WinWing Phoenix MIP, WinWing PTO & PCR, Total Control Apachte MPD frames, several DIY panels, NLR GTTRACK, NLR Motion V3, ButtKicker Gamer PLUS

VR: Varjo Aero, HP Reverb G2

JackFlash

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A quick question. We are planning to produce some table mounts for the frames. They will be sold separately. Do you guys think this is something you’ll get along with the frames?

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vor einer Stunde schrieb JackFlash:

A quick question. We are planning to produce some table mounts for the frames. They will be sold separately. Do you guys think this is something you’ll get along with the frames?

For me it depends on price and if I can integrate it in my setup. So I can't tell for sure.

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13 hours ago, JackFlash said:

A quick question. We are planning to produce some table mounts for the frames. They will be sold separately. Do you guys think this is something you’ll get along with the frames?

Having a Monster Tech setup I'll stick with it as their ecosystem is already vast and highly customizable.

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Bedouin

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16 hours ago, JackFlash said:

A quick question. We are planning to produce some table mounts for the frames. They will be sold separately. Do you guys think this is something you’ll get along with the frames?

I have a generic home cockpit, so not relevant for me...

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