'No Instant Action' Chuckles

[VFA41_Hedgehog]

Yeah, ridiculous that 3.5 years into development it was released with zero instant action options.

But what's kinda hilarious is the fanbois saying, 'It's early access!  They probably didn't have time to add them!' and in the same breath saying, 'It only takes 3 seconds do it yourself!'

Do you see how these statements are kinda contradictory and self-defeating?

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[EDIT: based on the responses below, they do not.]

Edited June 12, 2022 by VFA41_Hedgehog

[Beirut]

4 hours ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

Yeah, ridiculous that 3.5 years into development it was released with zero instant action options.

But what's kinda hilarious is the fanbois saying, 'It's early access!  They probably didn't have time to add them!' and in the same breath saying, 'It only takes 3 seconds do it yourself!'

Do you see how these statements are kinda contradictory and self-defeating?

 

 

 

I guess the people whining about taking the three-seconds to make a flight are the same people whining that they have to open their own beer. 

 

If that's a problem, well, you don't have any problems. 

 

[VFA41_Hedgehog]

Right.  If I'd paid $56 for a beer, it damned sure better come opened!  And in a chilled mug!  Served by an attractive young lady with a much better attitude!

Edited June 11, 2022 by VFA41_Hedgehog

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

I think it has nothing to do with early access.
the 3 seconds statement is more likely aimed at those who complain about no free flight missions available.

[Gunfreak]

17 minutes ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

Right.  If I'd paid $56 for a beer, it damned sure better come opened!  And in a chilled mug!  Served by an attractive young lady with a much better attitude!

 

You payed $56 for a beer that lasts 5+ years, and actually gets better with time.

[Eugel]

I said it in another thread, Razbam are creating the map, is it really their job to also create missions for all the aircraft modules ?

I can only speak for the modules I own, but for example, there are also no missions for the Harrier or the Gazelle on the Syria map. Marianas doesn´t have missions for A-10 or Harrier or Gazelle or TF-51

They have given access to this map to certain mission designers and there already is a "Through the inferno" mission for south atlantic, so I don´t really see the problem. Just download that and you´re good to go.

Edited June 11, 2022 by Eugel

[nawarren]

For what it's worth I was surprised and disappointed that they couldn't be bothered to throw in some instant action missions to show off their creation. Especially considering they have taken so long to develop and release it. I think it will take a few years before they have it up to a good standard. As someone who isn't into messing with mission editor etc, would have been nice if the developers could have populated some airfield traffic etc and created instant access missions. All seems a bit amateur to me and I slightly regret buying it in the state it's in. Oh well I guess that's what early access is, but I hope they can add these soon.

[Chump]

If you don't mess with making missions, wait a few more days. Some people that are very skilled and generous with their time will have some missions ready to go on the SA map for all to enjoy.

[Beirut]

8 hours ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

Right.  If I'd paid $56 for a beer, it damned sure better come opened!  And in a chilled mug!  Served by an attractive young lady with a much better attitude!

 

 

Fair enough.

 

Then again, if it was served by an attractive young lady with a much better attitude, the last thing on your mind would be complaining about whether she opened it or not. 

[Cab]

They sold you a map and you got a map. In other words, you got what you paid for. 
 

That’s not being a fanboy, that’s just reality. 

[Gambit21]

On 6/11/2022 at 10:50 AM, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

Right.  If I'd paid $56 for a beer, it damned sure better come opened!  And in a chilled mug!  Served by an attractive young lady with a much better attitude!

 

 

Oh come on.

I can make an "instant action" mission in 30 seconds flat - there's no issue here.

Don't expect RAZBAM to anticipate what aircraft you own, what you want to fly against etc. Or were they supposed to make several missions for every single 

available aircraft? It's EA, I think they're quite busy enough on the map itself. You could have made an instant action mission in the time it took you to post on this thread.

 

Oops...

I think I might have accidentally made an 'instant action' mission while I was typing this.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Gambit21

[RaisedByWolves]

Simiple solution. Don't buy it until its complete. Anyone buying any early access module should expect a  broken or mostly incomplete product. And even if it is complete they still manage to break things with every update. That is how this game company rolls. No one has a gun to your head as far as I know. This is  not meant to offend any snowflakes btw.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

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[Beirut]

17 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Oh come on.

I can make an "instant action" mission in 30 seconds flat - there's no issue here.

Don't expect RAZBAM to anticipate what aircraft you own, what you want to fly against etc...or were they supposed to make several missions for ever single 

available aircraft? It's EA, I think they're quite busy enough on the map itself. You could have made an instant action mission in the time it took you to post on this thread.

 

Oops...

I think I might have accidentally made an 'instant action' mission while I was typing this.

 

 

I accidently made two "instant action" missions while reading that.

 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

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[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Beirut said:

 

I accidently made two "instant action" missions while reading that.

 

I know what you mea....oops there goes another one.

 

[Cab]

5 hours ago, RaisedByWolves said:

Simiple solution. Don't buy it until its complete. Anyone buying any early access module should expect a  broken or mostly incomplete product. And even if it is complete they still manage to break things with every update. That is how this game company rolls. No one has a gun to your head as far as I know. This is  not meant to offend any snowflakes btw.

This.

It also applies to every module released in Early Access. 

[VZ_342]

Free Flight has to be the EASIEST instant action one can make. In fact, you could make it using every aircraft and mod there is out there...same level of difficulty!

 

 

 

[myHelljumper]

As previously said, we will be adding instant action mission sometime soon for Razbam aircraft, ED and other 3rd parties need to provide instant action mission for their aircraft.

[Beirut]

2 hours ago, myHelljumper said:

As previously said, we will be adding instant action mission sometime soon for Razbam aircraft, ED and other 3rd parties need to provide instant action mission for their aircraft.

 

At one point, some people are just going to have to embrace the horror, learn to open the Mission Editor, and spend the three-seconds required to make a flight. 

 

And if they do, they will also discover the wonderful wonderfulness of the Mission Editor. 

[VFA41_Hedgehog]

When I go to the McDonald's drive-thru and order a hamburger, I generally expect a 'ready to eat' product, not the parts to make a hamburger with the admonition to 'make it yourself, it only takes 3 seconds!'

Then again, I guess I've never ordered an early access hamburger.

Edited June 13, 2022 by VFA41_Hedgehog

[Beirut]

7 hours ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

When I go to the McDonald's drive-thru and order a hamburger, I generally expect a 'ready to eat' product, not the parts to make a hamburger with the admonition to 'make it yourself, it only takes 3 seconds!'

Then again, I guess I've never ordered an early access hamburger.

 

 

DCS has early access hamburgers in the Mission Editor.

 

But we shouldn't eat them. Just let them graze and be happy. 

 

[Northstar98]

On 6/11/2022 at 2:15 PM, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

But what's kinda hilarious is the fanbois saying, 'It's early access!  They probably didn't have time to add them!' and in the same breath saying, 'It only takes 3 seconds do it yourself!'

Do you see how these statements are kinda contradictory and self-defeating?

No, I don't - they're working on making a map, so I expect them to work on well, a map. Especially when said map still has lots of work that needs doing.

Surely the thing that should take all the priority is finishing said map? And if there's anything that should be right on the bottom of the list of priorities, it's instant action missions, especially when users are able to create them themselves.

23 hours ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

When I go to the McDonald's drive-thru and order a hamburger, I generally expect a 'ready to eat' product, not the parts to make a hamburger with the admonition to 'make it yourself, it only takes 3 seconds!'

Then again, I guess I've never ordered an early access hamburger.

Never mind ordering hamburgers, the restaurant isn't even complete yet.

And if the restaurant isn't even built yet, surely the thing that makes the most sense is to focus on completing the restaurant?

Edited June 14, 2022 by Northstar98

[Exorcet]

21 hours ago, VFA41_Hedgehog said:

When I go to the McDonald's drive-thru and order a hamburger, I generally expect a 'ready to eat' product, not the parts to make a hamburger with the admonition to 'make it yourself, it only takes 3 seconds!'

Then again, I guess I've never ordered an early access hamburger.

 

Aren't these comparisons kind of silly? When I bought my PC I had to build it myself. Why didn't it come assembled like a burger? Because it's not a burger. Why don't my burgers come with GPS like my car? Because they're not cars.

Also thinking about it, making something as simple as a free flight mission for a map seems kind of silly when DCS has both a mission editor and a fast mission generator that allow you to make a variety of free flight missions for zero effort while also better handling the multi module nature of DCS in my opinion.

[Cathnan]

I don't remember where it was but Razbam apparently confirmed that they will make instant action missions for their modules. For the other modules it's up to their developers, so ED for Hornet etc.