cfrag Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 13 hours ago, ThorBrasil said: it is an excellent idea for religious and tourist sites not to be damaged. And I think it's also good if that carries over to games! 3
Beirut Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, cfrag said: And I think it's also good if that carries over to games! A content creator in the community made a video a while back and used religious sights as targets on one of the maps. It seemed needlessly... needless. Not a good look. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
Trooper117 Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 16 hours ago, Beirut said: I've heard the historic and religious sights won't have damage models, which is a very good idea. Absolutely right... 2
cfrag Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Beirut said: A content creator in the community made a video a while back and used religious sights as targets on one of the maps. It seemed needlessly... needless. Agreed. Then again, and not not put too fine a point on this: DCS is a game that squarely centers around destruction. Trying to exempt some civilian or religious objects seems a bit arbitrary if not hypocritical to me. I know and understand why it's done; yet I wonder: A long time ago, there was a game called 'Wolfenstein 3D'. People complained about the fact that in the course of this game, the player occasionally needed to shoot and kill dogs. These people argued that this aspect was needlessly cruel and an example for needlessly gratuitous violence. They completely overlooked the fact that in the game, the player regularly shot and killed humans. That, it seemed, posed no problem to them. Unreflected, self-important hypocrites. IMHO, the problem here are neither ED nor OnReTech. They are merely trying to avoid being implicated by the headlines when bigoted politicians and 'concerned citizens' feign outrage in order to garner a few votes or clicks. I feel that it should be OK (even if not a good look) if this kind of stuff was permitted in games, so some people could work out their issues if they really wanted to. As for the real world, I wish it wouldn't happen at all, fully knowing that unfortunately, and senselessly, it regularly does. But let's leave these darker waters and instead focus on the bright side: soon we'll be able to fly on a map that - from the looks of it - seems to be a serious contender for the top slot in terms of beauty and versatility (which IMHO is currently held by 'Syria'). 10
Beirut Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, cfrag said: Agreed. Then again, and not not put too fine a point on this: DCS is a game that squarely centers around destruction. Trying to exempt some civilian or religious objects seems a bit arbitrary if not hypocritical to me. It may be. But then it has a right to be. 2 minutes ago, cfrag said: I feel that it should be OK (even if not a good look) if this kind of stuff was permitted in games, so some people could work out their issues if they really wanted to. As for the real world, I wish it wouldn't happen at all, fully knowing that unfortunately, and senselessly, it regularly does. I understand your point of view, but I'm enough of a curmudgeon to take a step to the right and be content if it's not permitted. 2 minutes ago, cfrag said: But let's leave these darker waters and instead focus on the bright side: soon we'll be able to fly on a map that - from the looks of it - seems to be a serious contender for the top slot in terms of beauty and versatility (which IMHO is currently held by 'Syria'). Damn straight! Many hours of exploration await on this map. Can't wait to fly over Cairo and see what happens to that poor little FPS counter. Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
Beirut Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Bring it! Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
Gierasimov Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 T O D A Y P L E A SE 1 Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
YoYo Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, Gierasimov said: T O D A Y P L E A SE The next patch 12.04 so I think - Today pre order news, the EA map 12.04. but fingers crossed for Today ;). Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Gierasimov Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 You don't need DCS update to release a mod dev said. Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
Gunfreak Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 I'm fascinated by the sheer size of Cairo. I think the biggest city on DCS to date is Beirut? With a population of 2.5 million? Cairo metropolitan has 20 million! Even Paris and London on the new Normandy map will be small in comparison. i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Lace Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 42 minutes ago, Gunfreak said: I'm fascinated by the sheer size of Cairo. I think the biggest city on DCS to date is Beirut? With a population of 2.5 million? Cairo metropolitan has 20 million! Even Paris and London on the new Normandy map will be small in comparison. Dubai is 3.5M according to Wikipedia. Still way smaller than Cairo, though Dubai's metropolitan area of c600 sq mi, vs Cairo's 1000 sq mi, means Cairo is less than twice the size, but has a much higher population density. Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
YoYo Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gierasimov said: You don't need DCS update to release a mod dev said. How? You will need the new build and new version. So update of current build is obligatory. Patch for other fixes not. Edited March 31, 2023 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Beirut Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 Maybe a good day for a pre-order. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Gunfreak said: Even Paris and London on the new Normandy map will be small in comparison. Specially bearing in mind those will be WWII era Paris and London, not even close to their current counterparts, I think. "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Gunfreak Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ala13_ManOWar said: Specially bearing in mind those will be WWII era Paris and London, not even close to their current counterparts, I think. Even in 1940 London had almost 8 million people, so it would probably be the second most populace city in DCS (Alexandria has 6 million) i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunfreak said: Even in 1940 London had almost 8 million people, so it would probably be the second most populace city in DCS (Alexandria has 6 million) Of course, but not 20, 30 or whatever it has right now . "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Gierasimov Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 4 hours ago, YoYo said: How? You will need the new build and new version. So update of current build is obligatory. Patch for other fixes not. Anyway, lets continue waiting then 1 Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
YoYo Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 Yep! Not yet, not yet! Perhaps they are working on figures of many people on Israel streets after last protests ! 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Beirut Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, YoYo said: Yep! Not yet, not yet! Perhaps they are working on figures of many people on Israel streets after last protests ! Too bad, no pre-order today. Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
skywalker22 Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) @OnReTech Will there be any signs of life on this awesome looking map, something that moving (except us)? Things like trains, planes or commercial airports, maybe some balloons (an idea! never seen in DCS), maybe some other stuff? MSFS is an inspiration for things like that. And as someone else mentioned, Cairo's specialty are the green colored lights on mosques. Edited April 2, 2023 by skywalker22 1
Gunfreak Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Ala13_ManOWar said: Of course, but not 20, 30 or whatever it has right now . Oh most definitely, it's also 2000km2 smaller than Cairo.(current London that is, haven't found the area size of 1944 London) i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Raviar Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 12:28 PM, Raviar said: I know this is a weird request, apart from SAM location and Helipad which is absolutely fantastic (Will save tons of hours on mission editor), is it possible to get Point of Interest and Navigation point on the ME ? @OnReTech is there technical posibilities/feasibility for this ? 1
OnReTech Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Raviar said: @OnReTech is there technical posibilities/feasibility for this ? it is technically possible to make only icons and their location. Any static object that is included in the map On 3/31/2023 at 8:09 PM, skywalker22 said: @OnReTech Will there be any signs of life on this awesome looking map, something that moving (except us)? Things like trains, planes or commercial airports, maybe some balloons (an idea! never seen in DCS), maybe some other stuff? MSFS is an inspiration for things like that. And as someone else mentioned, Cairo's specialty are the green colored lights on mosques. If we make green mosques for Cairo, they will turn green all over the map (we will do this, no problem). Now there is traffic on the Nile, and car traffic. Trains, birds, possibly dolphins will be added Balloons are a cool idea, I'll think about how to do it, I like it. 8
OnReTech Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) On 3/30/2023 at 1:45 AM, phant said: @OnReTech Some details I don't understand that are not directly dependent on the Sinai map and are related to all maps: 1. why is the conformation of the road network often full of angles that make them unrealistic, especially at low altitudes? 2. Why do bridges, underpasses, etc... have an unrealistic and often basic architecture? 3. Why the abuse of what is so many lampposts in the streets? Eliminating the middle would save a lot from rendering objects in the map and the final result would be more realistic. Bye Phant 1. This was done to optimize 2. There are requirements for 3d models that must be met 3. This does not affect performance, because the smaller object - smaller the distance of its rendering -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A bit of history about the Suez Canal. Thanks @pricklyHH72 Edited April 3, 2023 by OnReTech 2
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