Middle East Wishlist Thread

[upyr1]

Excluding naval assets we have the Iran-Iraq war quite fleshed out.

first aircraft 

Flyable

Iran

• F-14A
• F-5e
• F-4E on the way
• UH-1

Iraq

• MiG-19
• MiG-21
• MiG-29
• Su-25
• Mi-8
• Mi-24 (wrong variant though)
• Mirage F1 on the way
• MiG-23 on the way

AI

• AH-1
• Su-24
• Su-17

 

I believe Iran would be missing a lot of ground assets but we hav alot of the Iraqi ground assets we also need a su-7
 

[Stratos]

Apart from the Iran-Iraq war planes, the represented map will allow us to fly also the Desert Storm campaign, even If some of the planes flew from bases in the Gulf. But we can add.

- F-15C

- Mirage 2000

- A-10A

- F-16C

- F/A-18C

...the A4E mod, the soon to be released Mirage F1 for France, Kuwait and Qatar, the A-7 Corsair...

Oh, and the mighty F-15E, soon to be released from Razbam, when one think about our plane set, this map fits it perfectly.

 

 

Edited January 28, 2022 by Stratos

[DN308]

If ED would have put it in the video, I guess and would expect that they had started the work months ago.

I don’t think it would happen quickly but I am really looking forward this map ´cause I have a special relationship with this place and the coordinates grids mean a lot for me

Edited February 7, 2022 by DN308

[EricJ]

I agree and I would love to see an Afghanistan map myself.

[truebrit]

Most of the jet modules we in DCS have fought in Iraq in the Gulf War, it is the most recent large scale war, a war that a large percentage of DCS users would have lived through and/or know so much about. For me having two maps on either side of Iraq but not the most obvious choice for a DCS map is mental torture.

For those who say we already have desert maps, then ask for Korea, well don't we have trees and forests in the Caucasus and Marianas lol. But seriously, for me I want to fly historical missions and would love Vietnam, Korea etc but only if we have enough assets and modules for it. 

We have the Falkland Islands map coming, we have no official modules for that theatre. Putting a Sea Harrier skin on an AV-8B and fighting the A-4 Skyhawk mod is not reason enough for me to get excited about this map. But Iraq would make most sense at this time in DCS.

[truebrit]

My dream DCS map, make it so.

[Baco]

An Iraq/Iran/Kuwait map would be truly useful, 80s Iran/Iraq war, 99 and 2003 Iraq wars, and ISIS war in the 20s,.

Even expanding the Gulf would be very, very useful.

Those facts are undeniable. 

Not to mention the upcoming F1 would be right at home also... (the again I am half Spanish, so an "Almería" map is also welcome  )

[draconus]

Keep in mind that on desert maps (mostly) we can keep the details and quality pretty high and still get big land area while getting decent performance. This is currently not possible for highly urbanised or tree dense areas.

Edited June 9, 2022 by draconus

[Andy Epix]

I believe these area's are in some extent, in the PG map already. So the logical step would be to just add them into that. 

 

[Dragon1-1]

Adding things to existing maps can be difficult. Also, one more consideration: Persian Gulf is a 2010s map. All those shiny skyscrappers and artificial islands? Not there in the 80s. Dubai looked completely different back then. Iraq changed much less, but it would be nice to have an explicit DCS: Gulf War map, covering that and Iran-Iraq war. Maybe extending into ODS, depending on just how much the area had changed since then. Iraq, Kuwait, bits of Saudi and Iran. No need for an enormous area to cover maps we already have.

As for the sand, well, the sandbox is nice because there's no a lot out there but sand, which is good for performance. Syria is quite lush, more Mediterranean than desert, and is correspondingly quite a hog. Iraq should be more FPS-friendly.

[Silver_Dragon]

I believe these area's are in some extent, in the PG map already. So the logical step would be to just add them into that. 
 

ED has talk PG map has feature complete and not have more plans to continue expande them yet.

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[Raviar]

I love the idea, as we are getting close and close to Phantom, MiG-23 and F1 release, I think this part if the most needed map (ofcourse Vietnam, Korea and Balkan is much more important but I dont think we can get this, although static objecs by ED and Urga can be reuse in this part and it is same objects on Persian Gulf)

I dont think Syria will get any further more expansion by Urga, the Persian Gulf map either (as it suppose to be straight or hurmoz initially), even the Shiraz (not the wine, although the famous shiraz wine grape is back to the same city    thats the reason the name is shiraz wine), Lar and Kerman are not really implemented with nice details, the ground in the middle of iran is terribly modeled (texture wise)

If Ugra or ED can make another map which can cover the most or All of the Iraq, Kuwait and West part of Iran, it would be great, the most important AFBs are not included in the Persian Gulf map such as: Bushehr(Home of F-4D and RF-4), Hamedan(F-4), Dezfoul(home of F-5), Omidieh(F-5) and Possibly Isfahan which is in the middle of iran, about 80nmi to the north of Shiraz(the home of Tomcats) and Possibly Tabriz on North West(F-5, F-4 and MiG-29)

BTW the west part and North West of Iran is not all desert at all, its all mountains with lots of Snow in winter time and some green parts too

Dont expect green as Balkan or EU, but its not all desert, if you take a look at it by google map, dont use top view only, find a places and try to check the pictures if there is any, it would be  something like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sumar,+Kermanshah+Province,+Iran/@33.9045023,45.9440943,3a,75y,51.2h,90.7t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipM2WzLwBkXCMgaxlgYVHH8xBQvpjdj1_I2GmBcT!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM2WzLwBkXCMgaxlgYVHH8xBQvpjdj1_I2GmBcT%3Dw86-h86-k-no-pi-20-ya258-ro0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120!4m8!1m2!2m1!1smap!3m4!1s0x3ffc55846696acdd:0xd44500dd0339e47d!8m2!3d33.8859856!4d45.6393957

Edited June 17, 2022 by Raviar

[Stratos]

[Raviar]

7 minutes ago, Stratos said:

IS THIS DCS ?!

[Stratos]

No, hope so, but no, is a map proposed here in the forums. I think is the proper size and a very good area covered. Of course a lot ODS airfields are left out to the south, but we can still use some in Saudi Arabia, the Harrier FARPs and fly all the way north to Baghdad. Also it covers a lot of Iran-Iraq war area and a bit of the Gulf itself.

[Mike Force Team]

At the beginning of this year, DCS showed a video that revealed coordinates.  The coordinates were for a military base in Afghanistan.  Hoping that DCS will eventually produce the desired map, here are some suggestions that could add.

MFT

Suggestions for Natural Disasters for Afghanistan Map on June 26 2022.docx

[Gierasimov]

"The developers can use this information as inspiration to accurately reflect real-world information that could permit mission or campaign creators to add natural disasters."

This is asking a lot from a game engine not capable of simulating fluid dynamics, not to mention land mass and tectonic moves. 

Baby steps - let's have the earth flying, craters and napalm dynamics first before we could even dream of full blown simulation of a world, DCS World.  

Earthquake can be simulated with DESTRUCTION ZONE trigger, draught - kind of fly over desert, and flooding (like the one from bursting the dam open) would apparently kill modern PC hardware.

I fully support the idea. I doubt it will ever happen though - there is just to much in progress right now, and current limitations are severe.  

[Mike Force Team]

@Gierasimov When I see features not modeled, I put them on the wish list. I know that incorporating them may or may not happen. What i gain for posting the information is that ED reads it. Thanks for your comments. 

MFT

Edited June 27, 2022 by Mike Force Team

[Gierasimov]

That is a good thing. That's why I put those three things there as well. To see them modelled one day. 

I know that the fire physics / dynamics are planned (or maybe even actively worked on), as ED wanted to bring fire bomb to the Hornet. We'll see. But if ED terrain tech allowed for land to be 'reshaped' based on physical interaction, it would be the next level mind-blowing tech. 

Searching online, one could find such a tech available for the entire globe but this isn't the place to discuss here. 

Yaeah, simulation would be nice foundation for the rest of DCS aspects. 

As said, I am with you. 

[GDLlong]

The map of the Middle East should include the Syrian war, the five Middle East wars, and the major participating countries in the Afghan war. Now DCS is very short of huge maps to support large-scale war environment simulation. In addition, because of the long-term war in the Middle East, people's understanding of the war environment in the Middle East is also more consistent with the DCS combat environment, and many classic battles can be carved, which is what many players want

[bies]

Middle East it the most represented region in DCS. We have Persian Gulf/Hormuz Strait and Syria with Cyprus and north Israel. Sinai Peninsula map and possibly Afganistan are coming. Only Iraq, arguably the most relevant, is missing.

Is it possible to merge a few already big and demanding maps into one even bigger without sacrificing FPS? Probably not. I guess we need to wait for multithreading and Vulcan implementation, but who knows.

[Phantom88]

Was Afghanistan ever Confirmed by ED as a Official Project?? 

[cordite]

Other than the rare tease, no.

[Silver_Dragon]

On 2/5/2023 at 8:40 PM, Phantom88 said:

Was Afghanistan ever Confirmed by ED as a Official Project?? 

Confirmed by ED on your FB

 

[Phantom88]

Thanks SD