Purchase F-14 from Heatblur Store or DCS Store?

[Ludl0w]

I wanted to know if there was any difference between purchasing the F-14 from the heatblur store vs the DCS store?

I ask because I noticed that Heatblur allows you to purchase their modules from their website. Is this just for convenience? Do more of the funds go to Heatblur if I purchase from their site? Is there any extra content (skins for example) that one gets for purchasing it from the Heatblur store instead of the DCS store?

[BubiHUN]

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

[Rudel_chw]

19 hours ago, Ludl0w said:

I wanted to know if there was any difference between purchasing the F-14 from the heatblur store vs the DCS store?

 

I can think of a few differences:

- The Heatblur store sells a two-crew license that saves US$20 from list price, this license is not avaliable on Steam or ED-shop. 

- The ED-Store gives you a 10% bonus in ED-miles, that allow you to save up to 10% on a future purchase.

- The Steam store has a worlwide-sensible exchange rate, that sometimes allows you to get a Module for much less than the other two stores.

- Both Steam and ED have seasonal Sales where you can get the Modules at a saving, don't know if the HB store has these Sales.

 

19 hours ago, Ludl0w said:

Do more of the funds go to Heatblur if I purchase from their site?

 

I'm not sure .. I would assume yes, or else HB wouldn't bother to have their own store.

 

19 hours ago, Ludl0w said:

Is there any extra content (skins for example) that one gets for purchasing it from the Heatblur store instead of the DCS store?

 

No, there isnt, but in the past they have sold custom t-shirts, but I don't see them on their store anymore.

 

1 hour ago, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.

 

A very short-sighted advice, you go out of your way to discourage potential buyers ... surely you don't realize that the more buyers you discourage, the less funds available to fix bugs or develop new modules ... well done 

[BubiHUN]

37 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

A very short-sighted advice, you go out of your way to discourage potential buyers ... surely you don't realize that the more buyers you discourage, the less funds available to fix bugs or develop new modules ... well done 

thats not about money, (not in a way what you think) but about decisions.

[Cab]

1 hour ago, BubiHUN said:

…its FM is broken now.

That seems like a pretty severe overstatement.

[Q3ark]

1 hour ago, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

Just no dude

[IronMike]

22 hours ago, Ludl0w said:

I wanted to know if there was any difference between purchasing the F-14 from the heatblur store vs the DCS store?

I ask because I noticed that Heatblur allows you to purchase their modules from their website. Is this just for convenience? Do more of the funds go to Heatblur if I purchase from their site? Is there any extra content (skins for example) that one gets for purchasing it from the Heatblur store instead of the DCS store?

There is no difference, except that you need to bind the purchased key from our store to your DCS account, which is a simple copy, paste and click affair, the link will be provided to you by email after purchase from our store, as well as the key.

The split between us and ED is always the same, only that purchases from our store go to us first, and purchases on the DCS E-shop go to ED first. In the end, either purchase supports both us and ED of course.

Please note: like purchases from the e-shop, purchases from our store are not compatible with steam.

Thank you for considering our products and we wish you Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year!

[Karon]

6 hours ago, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

Funny you say that. I killed a MiG-31 at 75 nm earlier with no particular effort (the whole engagement will be part of my next video, hopefully out in a couple of days).

Spoiler

And not even half an hour ago, I posted this:

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Since I'm not particularly good, I never push too hard on the parameters, yet I have no issues with the Phoenix, have you considered the possibility that maybe you are using it incorrectly?

Edited December 21, 2022 by Karon

[WarthogOsl]

5 hours ago, Karon said:

Funny you say that. I killed a MiG-31 at 75 nm earlier with no particular effort (the whole engagement will be part of my next video, hopefully out in a couple of days).

Likewise...yesterday I went up against 4 hard-level MiG-25's on the TTI Marinas server in an F-14A.  Launched 3 Phoenix C's from around 65nm and killed 2 of them.  Recommitted and launched an STT Phoenix at the closest Foxbat and killed him from 18 miles.  Bugged out and ran for a bit, as I was out of Fox 3's, but the last Foxbat was gaining on me, so I recommitted again and fired a Sparrow at a somewhat optimistic 15 miles (he was going really fast, though).  He launched an R-40 at me as well at the same time, but trashed it when he turned cold to avoid the AIM-7.  He ended up flying into the water.  A kill's a kill.

[IronMike]

In general this actually is not the right thread for this discussion.

And - @BubiHUN - I get it, you are frustrated, I recently locked a thread of yours about your gripes with the aim54, and we may not see eye to eye on the matter - which is completely fine, and it is also fine that you try to vent your frustration further. But in the end it is still your opinion and facts are not being presented to you to put you down, but to balance out your impression. Now all that is fine, but what is not fine, is to sour the game for others who just want to start out, have a clean slate and fresh set of mind, ready to experience it for themselves and make themselves their own picture. In case you think you are hurting us with that - you are not. In case you are telling them something, which is not fully public and known through forums and else - you are not. In case you think you are saving a guy from a horrible waste of money or something - you are not. You are only setting a negative mood for someone who was looking forward to something new, asking for help, and potentially talking him out of - I will still proudly say - one of the greatest experiences in simming to date.

Just because you do not enjoy it, because you struggle with the aim54 or cannot get past its remaining issues and think that an FM that is within 3-5% accuracy (more than required even by professional sims and additionally one of the most accurate feels), is "broken", it does not mean that others agree and do not enjoy it and share your frustration. Nothing's worse imho than trying to take away the joy from folks who enjoy what you do not. So, if you feel like going on a vendetta against us, feel free to do what you please in the whole wide internet, but please also understand that this kind of behavior is not really welcome here. Not because you may chase away a potential customer in such an explicit manner (which I would honestly have to ask myself why we should tolerate even that), but because you are trying to take away their anticipation and potential fun with a great module and setting a bias for them, out of your own disgruntled mood. That's really not ok. And I hope we can simply leave it at that and I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

Please keep this thread on topic, everyone. Thank you.  

[SkateZilla]

23 hours ago, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

Odd, OP asked which store is it better to purchase from, not for an unsolicited angry review.

[Ludl0w]

On 12/21/2022 at 10:02 AM, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

@SkateZilla took the words straight out of my mouth.

I made this post to ask a simple question regarding the means at which I purchase the F-14 Tomcat module. It was never in question to me whether or not I should purchase the F-14 Tomcat module. I actually already own the module; I purchased it through the DCS store. I found out after purchasing it that Heatblur allows you to purchase it through their website. I wanted to verify that I purchased it through the right means (the right means meaning that Heatblur still gets the same cut and that I am supporting them as much as possible with my purchase). Its an amazing module, nothing short of exactly what I would expect from Heatblur. So its hilarious that you would comment here to dissuade me form purchasing this module. I already own it, and I love it. I just wanted to make sure my money was going to the right place when I purchased it.

@IronMike is right. This is not the place to discuss any issues that might exist with the F-14 Tomcat module. I wanted to know the best place to purchase the module, nothing more.

Even if this were the place to discuss such things, you have nothing to back up any of your vague claims.

[Ludl0w]

On 12/21/2022 at 2:21 PM, IronMike said:

There is no difference, except that you need to bind the purchased key from our store to your DCS account, which is a simple copy, paste and click affair, the link will be provided to you by email after purchase from our store, as well as the key.

The split between us and ED is always the same, only that purchases from our store go to us first, and purchases on the DCS E-shop go to ED first. In the end, either purchase supports both us and ED of course.

Please note: like purchases from the e-shop, purchases from our store are not compatible with steam.

Thank you for considering our products and we wish you Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year!

Thank you so much for the information! I didn't expect to get information straight from the source! I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

[Cab]

7 hours ago, Ludl0w said:

I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

I’m not sure that’s what he wrote.

[IronMike]

On 12/24/2022 at 6:17 AM, Ludl0w said:

Thank you so much for the information! I didn't expect to get information straight from the source! I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

It absolutely did and we are most grateful for your purchase and support and very happy to hear that you enjoy it! 

Merry Christmas and plenty of fun holiday hours (and beyond) in the F14 from all of us at Heatblur! 

[Ludl0w]

On 12/24/2022 at 5:39 AM, Cab said:

I’m not sure that’s what he wrote.

Then you might want to read it again:

On 12/21/2022 at 2:21 PM, IronMike said:

The split between us and ED is always the same, only that purchases from our store go to us first, and purchases on the DCS E-shop go to ED first.

The split is always the same, meaning that Heatblur gets the same cut of the funds regardless of if one purchases a module from their website or the DCS store.

[Cab]

On 12/23/2022 at 11:17 PM, Ludl0w said:

8 minutes ago, Ludl0w said:

Then you might want to read it again:

The split is always the same, meaning that Heatblur gets the same cut of the funds regardless of if one purchases a module from their website or the DCS store.

Not sure I agree.

let’s look at it again:

On 12/23/2022 at 11:17 PM, Ludl0w said:

Thank you so much for the information! I didn't expect to get information straight from the source! I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

Maybe I’m misunderstanding his use of the word “all”, but it doesn’t sound like he was thinking his money was split between ED and HB. 

That is all I meant. 

[Gun Jam]

"all" their cut

[Castor Troy]

On 12/21/2022 at 12:02 PM, BubiHUN said:

I suggest you to dont buy this module. It's main weapon is useless, and also its FM is broken now.
The first one looks never be fixed, the second maybe. 
Buy F-16 or F-18 instead, or just wait for F-15

Who took the jam out your donut?

The F14 is the reason I got into DCS. Thanks HB for an outstanding product!

[Cab]

1 hour ago, Gun Jam said:

"all" their cut

"all of my money"

I'm not sure how it can be read that way, but we can agree to disagree. 

[draconus]

On 12/24/2022 at 6:17 AM, Ludl0w said:

I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

Nope, Cab is right, only part of your money goes to HB.

[Uxi]

Still need to finish my "wingman/RIO" PC.  And then I'll be buying standalone Tomcat which remains my favorite module in DCS and the most fun to fly and Supercarrier for it. Most likely through the HB store but my main is still Steam.  

I do wish there was to join a pilot and RIO or do a network/LAN mode (at least for practice) since that sync overall seems the weakest part of the experience but getting more into ED architecture stuff probably. 

[RustBelt]

Well you can lan together, you don’t need to be on a remote server. One of the computers just runs as host. But that doesn’t fix the sync issues because it’s still doing the same thing across a crossover cable, or across the internet.

[Ludl0w]

On 12/28/2022 at 12:50 PM, Cab said:

Not sure I agree.

let’s look at it again:

Maybe I’m misunderstanding his use of the word “all”, but it doesn’t sound like he was thinking his money was split between ED and HB. 

That is all I meant. 

@Cab You don't get to speculate about what I meant by what I said. And yes, you are misunderstanding my use of the word "all."

I'm baffled and confused. You are quoting my comment, and telling me that you disagree with what I meant by what I said in the comment that I posted. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't read my username on the comments you quoted and maybe didn't understand that I made those comments. But I don't think I can anymore, since you are still going on about it later in this thread:

On 12/29/2022 at 3:42 PM, Cab said:

"all of my money"

I'm not sure how it can be read that way, but we can agree to disagree. 

Again, just to clarify, since I'm the one who wrote the comment that you're speculating on, you're wrong in your interpretation of what I meant. @Gun Jam correctly interpreted what I meant by "all of my money," that being that the same portion of my money made its way to Heatblur. IronMike also understood what I meant.

You are either trolling, or a combination of confused and very argumentative.

[Ludl0w]

On 12/29/2022 at 4:07 PM, draconus said:

Nope, Cab is right, only part of your money goes to HB.

@draconus If you read the beginning of this thread, it should be clear to you that whether or not all of one's money goes to Heatblur was never in question:

On 12/20/2022 at 3:51 PM, Ludl0w said:

Do more of the funds go to Heatblur if I purchase from their site?

The question has always been whether or not the cut changes. Whether or not Heatblur gets more or less of the cut of the funds. That is what I meant when I started this thread.

On 12/23/2022 at 10:17 PM, Ludl0w said:

I'm glad all of my money still found its way to Heatblur!

I know that I used the term "all of my money" in my comment here. But what I meant by "all" was that the same cut of my money made its way to Heatblur.