admiki Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Spetz said: Been more than two weeks, unless this was the usual “two weeks” joke…. Really excited for this to drop, always loved that bird! You new here? trevoC already said everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spetz Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Yurgon said: Well let's see... [ ] WIP external 3D renders released [ ] WIP internal cockpit 3D renders released [ ] Teaser trailer released [ ] Early look videos by Wags released [ ] List of planned features for early access and full release published Maybe we'll have to wait another two weeks... Lol.. I know, was being facetious.. just excited to get this in the sky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Spetz said: just excited to get this in the sky! Amen to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 The announcement was in 2023 and beyond trailer. I highly believe the beyond part is more realistic to expect the CH-47 to released. Though I‘m hyped on it, I‘d like to fly it in DCS as soon as possible! DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, corbu1 said: The announcement was in 2023 and beyond trailer. I highly believe the beyond part is more realistic to expect the CH-47 to released. How long did the Apache take after the initial announcement? Wasn't that just a little over a year? I thought it was surprisingly fast, and I still can't believe we all get to fly this beast. Such an awesome module! If the Chinook matches this timeline, I'd say that would be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 vor einer Stunde schrieb Yurgon: How long did the Apache take after the initial announcement? Wasn't that just a little over a year? I thought it was surprisingly fast, and I still can't believe we all get to fly this beast. Such an awesome module! If the Chinook matches this timeline, I'd say that would be brilliant. I believe Apache was announced in 2021 and beyond trailer? Early access release was March 2022? Well, yes that would be a brilliant timeline for CH-47! Means March/ April 2024. The earlier we get it the better!!! DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 apache has complex weapon systems, sensors, TSD, etc. I don't think a cargo heli might take a similar time for EA FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsvinet Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ebabil said: apache has complex weapon systems, sensors, TSD, etc. I don't think a cargo heli might take a similar time for EA I mostly agree, the helicopter itself is definitely less complex, although should not be underestimated. Where I bet the complexity lays is that they are probably improving things outside of the helicopter. Things like slingloading, troop transport and such. Without those parts, a non-ACH-47A Chinook would be quite boring to have, at least without the communitys' talented scripters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Soon we are closing 3 months since the reveal on the chinook at beyond video. I don't think it's a good sign that we don't have any news yet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ebabil said: apache has complex weapon systems, sensors, TSD, etc. I don't think a cargo heli might take a similar time for EA Heck, just mixing unit is more complex than the whole Apache. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 hours ago, slowmover said: Soon we are closing 3 months since the reveal on the chinook at beyond video. I don't think it's a good sign that we don't have any news yet. That sounds ominously doomish. What are you trying to say here? That there won't be a DCS Chinook? That it's going to be delayed? That ED chewed more than they can bite? Whatever the case may be, just looking at the pinned topics in the AH-64D part of the forum, ED didn't share any official news or videos with us until late summer 2021, circa 8 or 9 months after the reveal trailer (unless I missed earlier posts). Why would it be a bad sign then that there's been no news 3 months after the Chinook reveal? I mean, hey, I don't want to tell you what to feel. But for as long as I've been on these forums, there have been doomsayers that always found something to give them a very bad feeling about ED or a particular DCS product, and they shared that with everyone, and a few people got into a really bad mood because of that, and then it turned out to be caused by their imagination running wild. Long story short, it'll be ready when it's ready, everything is subject to change, and as always it only takes two more weeks (TM). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Yurgon said: That sounds ominously doomish. What are you trying to say here? That there won't be a DCS Chinook? That it's going to be delayed? That ED chewed more than they can bite? Whatever the case may be, just looking at the pinned topics in the AH-64D part of the forum, ED didn't share any official news or videos with us until late summer 2021, circa 8 or 9 months after the reveal trailer (unless I missed earlier posts). Why would it be a bad sign then that there's been no news 3 months after the Chinook reveal? I mean, hey, I don't want to tell you what to feel. But for as long as I've been on these forums, there have been doomsayers that always found something to give them a very bad feeling about ED or a particular DCS product, and they shared that with everyone, and a few people got into a really bad mood because of that, and then it turned out to be caused by their imagination running wild. Long story short, it'll be ready when it's ready, everything is subject to change, and as always it only takes two more weeks (TM). Hey mate. Νo need to get upset and rude to me. You could have just asked me why I have this bad feeling without the rest of the drama you wrote. Was it so bad that I expressed a feeling of mine in a community that shares the same passion? If indeed it was, I humbly apologize.I hope that expressing this feeling does not affect anyone else. I will tell you what I mean by bad feeling. Now we will have to go a little off topic. 1-18 December 2020 Announced the DCS WORLD 2021 AND BEYOND video. 2-08 January 2021 The first newlatter about DCS: AH-64D which also included the preoder date. (pre-sales February 2021) 3-26 February 2021 AH-64D pre-order preoder date change and planned for the beginning of May 2021. Also we got a Development Report for -Aircraft Systems -Avionics-Mission Equipment. Αs you can see from the day of the announcement (ΑΗ-64D) we have news for the unit very soon comparing the chinook.Ιts been almost 3 months since its announcement day and we still have nothing. Comparing the 3 announcements made for the Apache (in that sort period DEC20-FEB21) with the 0 that have been made for the CHINOOK, I got this bad feeling. Ι think I have proved to you that this bad feeling has some basis and is not caused by my imagination.Right or wrong, I don't think this is the right thread to discuss it. And there is no point in discussing it further. I hope we get some official news and not rumours. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, slowmover said: I hope we get some official news and not rumours. Good point, that would be nice indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Low Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Noice. Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadg Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 big fat military mule. that is surprisingly fast and nimble. just like a mule should be. and like a mule it has hind quarters. which means it will be great at barrel turns. looks like you can give the front quarters and turn under the rear rotor axis. for those rear pinnacle landings? but can you give the rear and turn under the front rotor axis? to swing the butt around faster? or are you limited to only turning around the central axis between the rotors? so many questions but I kind of want to find out right now with lots of soft hands and feet. My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berniyh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Is it also mulish like … well … a mule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 12:48 AM, ebabil said: apache has complex weapon systems, sensors, TSD, etc. I don't think a cargo heli might take a similar time for EA It's my belief that the Apache was a "special case" that might not be repeated. Meaning, I believe the Apache was ALREADY very deep in development at the time of announcement. Like possibly YEARS of secret development. Just my gut feeling from how it unfolded. Just because a particular aircraft is "simpler" than others, doesn't mean it'll appear much quicker. It's possible that a super complex aircraft like Vipornets gets 10 times as many developers working on it, than a simple warbird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale1986 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Will be interesting to see when we‘ll get the first details and how detailed that will be. And if it is indeed the italian iCH-47F then it has FLIR 1 Main Module: AH-64D Personal Wishlist: HH-60G, F-117A, B-52H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPig Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 11:52 PM, Rick50 said: It's my belief that the Apache was a "special case" that might not be repeated. Meaning, I believe the Apache was ALREADY very deep in development at the time of announcement. Like possibly YEARS of secret development. Just my gut feeling from how it unfolded. Just because a particular aircraft is "simpler" than others, doesn't mean it'll appear much quicker. It's possible that a super complex aircraft like Vipornets gets 10 times as many developers working on it, than a simple warbird. I don't remember where I read it, but somewhere Wags said the development of AH64 until EA release would have taken 2 years. Maybe it was in a podcast and not written down. Really can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 hours ago, SteelPig said: I don't remember where I read it, but somewhere Wags said the development of AH64 until EA release would have taken 2 years. Maybe it was in a podcast and not written down. Really can't remember. Could be... And that would be very impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 All i can say i was initially surprised to see a Ch47 before a something from the Blackhawk family. I always thought a Medium utility was the happy middle ground between being to actually haul a meaningful amount of cargo or people without being a oversized pig of a bus whilst still have gunship options without being a total lightweight like the Uh1 Huey. Although rumor is Ch47 became a thing due to military contract, especially given what looks to be a Italian version of the CH47F that is being modelled. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) I am not surprised that the CH-47 beat the blackhawk into DCS. For me the blackhawk is a "very expensive" Middle weight chopper that just barely beats the Huey UH-1Z. It is well overpriced for its purpose and this shows in its sales. Both internally of the US of A and including its dependant countries that receive large military aid. The CH-47 is just America when America was the gold standard! It is simply a superb airframe no matter what weight of junk you stick on it! Fabulous airframe! Edited May 18, 2023 by Rogue Trooper 2 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale1986 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 17 hours ago, Rogue Trooper said: For me the blackhawk is a "very expensive" Middle weight chopper that just barely beats the Huey UH-1Z. It is well overpriced for its purpose and this shows in its sales. Both internally of the US of A and including its dependant countries that receive large military aid. Tell this the countries who acquired the NH-90 6 Main Module: AH-64D Personal Wishlist: HH-60G, F-117A, B-52H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Rogue Trooper said: It is well overpriced for its purpose and this shows in its sales. Both internally of the US of A and including its dependant countries that receive large military aid. The CH-47 is just America when America was the gold standard! Number of Black Hawks produced: over 4.000 Number of Chinooks produced: about 1.200 Apart from the fact that they are very different aircraft and hardly comparable, I'd say the UH-60 is pretty well-accepted all over the world, and far from being an aircraft only pushed on other countries as military aid. It's also an icon thanks to some events in Somalia and a movie about that, so yeah, I'm with Kev2go, I expected a Black Hawk first, too - that being if ED ever decided to do another utility helicopter at all. I feared it would not happen again in DCS and thought the Huey and the Hip were only possible because that was ten years ago and some dedicated devs with a personal bond to those helicopters simply wanted them in DCS. Nowadays the DCS community has a loud group of people shouting "If it ain't shootin' and kickin' ass, I ain't buyin'!!!", which I thought would make mundane utility helicopters or even a C-130 unattractive. I'm happy that my fears did not come true. 8 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE] T-Bone Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Almost half a year after announcement, is there any more info or pictures or anything on this by now? Did I miss something? Would be great if we could get more information for this machine. 1 Specs: R7 3800X, 32Gb 3600Mhz, RTX 2070 S, M2 SSd 970 Pro Equipment: microHELIS Bell 206 Pedale + Toe-Brakes, microHELIS OH-58D Collective, microHELIS OH-58D Cyclic, Realteus Forcefeel, TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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