Aetherin Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Following patch 2.8.2.35632 Open Beta, pressing NUMPAD 5 will recenter VR view (same command as "recenter VR headset" under UI Layer), even if one unbinds all commands related to recentering view / recentering VR view from UI Layers, General, and the flown Aircraft. Using SteamVR as my current OpenXR runtime. I've been using my numerical keypad as keys for the ICP in the Viper and the KU in the Apache, but after today's patch am unable to do so since pressing NUM 5 will recenter my view even if I unbind all recenter view functions for the keyboard. 2
YoYo Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 I use num 5 for recenter, its ok for me from years (num 5 is on my joystick). But it was free button as I know, you can select another key, check all keys for center and remove it. I dont think its hardcoded. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Aetherin Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 7 hours ago, YoYo said: I use num 5 for recenter, its ok for me from years (num 5 is on my joystick). But it was free button as I know, you can select another key, check all keys for center and remove it. I dont think its hardcoded. Thanks for your reply. My experience from yesterday is that NUM 5 is now hardcoded to recenter the VR view as of this current open beta patch. As you suggest and I also mentioned in my first post, I have removed every single keybind using NUM 5 from the categories "UI Layer", "General", as well as the appropriate aircraft (for me the F-16C), as well as removed every single recenter view command from the keyboard. The only command left is "recenter VR headset" under UI Layer bound to my HOTAS. Yet the issue still persists: pressing NUM 5 will recenter the VR view. This was not an issue in the prior patches. If I pressed NUM 5 while in VR, nothing would happen (except for, of course, any command I bound to NUM 5 myself such as the 5 key on the Viper ICP or the 5 key on the Apache KU). 3
Brock Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) I am having the same issues after the patch. I have cleared out all references to numpad 5 for re centering and it still is happening. I use the numpad for data entry so this is really frustrating. I have checked all the bindings under General and UI to make sure I am not missing anything. Is there anywhere else this could be bound? Edited January 27, 2023 by Brock 2
Guard72nd Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Hello peeps. I have my keyboard numpad set up as ICP controls. After the latest update, numpad 5 recenters the VR headset, even if not bound to that command in the UI part of settings in DCS (I already have that bound somewhere else, no double binds) Anyone else experiencing this? To the mod that moved this, it got moved from F-16 bugs to F-18 controller bugs/questions. Could you please move it to F-16 controller bugs/questions? Edited January 27, 2023 by Guard72nd 2
Maverick806 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I believe the Recenter VR controls got moved out of individual aircraft controls and into the UI Layer a few patches ago. I’d recommend checking if it’s bound to Num5 there. 1 9800X3D, 64GB DDR5, RTX 3080 Valve Index, RS FSSB R3 Ultra, TM Viper TQS, TM TPR Pedals
Guard72nd Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) I have checked in UI layer, thanks. Sorry for not clarifying, that is where I have had it bound for a long time. My "true" recenter VR button (DX on hotas) still registers there, and works as it used to, only that the numpad 5 key replicates it, without showing up as a keypress in either the UI layer or the F-16. Edited January 27, 2023 by Guard72nd 1
Taz1004 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Yes, I'm getting this too. I unbound Num5 from all controls section but still being used as VR recenter. 1 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Baldrick33 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Just checked and same here. I use Numpad 5 for OpenXR Toolkit and it is now recentering VR although not bound in UI layer AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
Taz1004 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I did find a workaround however. Go into UI Layer and assign keyboard strokes you don't use to "recenter VR Headset". I assigned LCtrl+Num5. Leaving it empty causes it to revert to Num5. 3 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Guard72nd Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I found the solution. After the last update, under the "General" tab (not UI layer or plane specific) every controller now has button 5 (for DX controllers as well) assigned to the function "Reset view" If you go in there and un-assign it for every controller it will work. This explains why some of my other HOTAS setups for other planes were suddenly lacking buttons as well, it takes every DX5 button from every controller, and assigns it to this function post last patch. 1
Taz1004 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Guard72nd said: I found the solution. After the last update, under the "General" tab (not UI layer or plane specific) every controller now has button 5 (for DX controllers as well) assigned to the function "Reset view" If you go in there and un-assign it for every controller it will work. This explains why some of my other HOTAS setups for other planes were suddenly lacking buttons as well, it takes every DX5 button from every controller, and assigns it to this function post last patch. I don't see "Reset view" under General tab and none of my controller has any assignments in General. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
AdrianL Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Taz1004 said: "Reset view" Think it is "View Center". For me, it was assigned to num 5 as well as to my stick and throttle. Edited January 28, 2023 by AdrianL 1
Taz1004 Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, AdrianL said: Think it is "View Center". For me, it was assigned to num 5 as well as to my stick as well as throttle as well. I unbound that long time ago and nothing's assigned in General. But still have this behavior unless I set something to "recenter VR Headset" in UI Layer. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Guard72nd Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Yes, "View Center", sorry. I have never had those bindings in use before this patch, only the recenter in UI layer. Once I removed all these new binds in "general", it works just as it did before the patch, and I am able to use the numpad for other binds (read ICP) as I did before. Edited January 28, 2023 by Guard72nd 2
brodie4598 Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 Please get this fixed - trying to type in a coordinate makes me nauseous every time I type a 5 3
Sjanten Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Got the same issue as the other once here. I am using the numpad for the ICP on several aircrafts and having the recenter view on num 5 by default is kind of useless. Better if we can set the key by our self in the key bindings. Is this a bug or intended? Edited January 28, 2023 by Sjanten 2
Aarnoman Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Version: DCS 2.8.2.35759 Open Beta Bug: When [numpad 5] is pressed, VR view is recentered. This occurs despite [numpad 5] being unbound in the controls menu under General/UI layer from all camera control functions. Use case: I use the numberpad as UFC input for each number in the F/A-18C. However, since the introduction of this bug (new with DCS 2.8.2.35759 hotfix) it will recenter VR view every time numpad5 is pressed, which makes it no longer usable for this purpose. Addit to temporary workaround: - This bug is specifically triggered when "recenter VR headset" does not have an associated keyboard binding (joystick bindings are not accepted). - A temporary workaround is creating a random keyboard binding for "recenter VR headset" under UI layers. Edit: Duplicate bug posts here: Edited January 30, 2023 by Aarnoman
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Flappie Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 I tried this in current OB in 2D and I have no such issue. Can you please ensure this is only happening when using VR? ---
Flappie Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Can you please check if the issue is also present when you're not using VR? ---
EagleEye.DCS Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 normal on mine. looks like there is a double keybinds with other things. DCS INDONESIA COMMUNITY Garuda virtual Air Wing Official Website | Discord | Facebook | Instagram
Flappie Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Are you all using DCS Input Command Injector by Quaggles, or any other controls-related mod? ---
Aetherin Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Flappie said: I tried this in current OB in 2D and I have no such issue. Can you please ensure this is only happening when using VR? I am only experiencing the issue in VR, not in 2D without headtracking. I do not have any headtracking other than VR, so will need others to confirm that the issue does not persist for, e.g., TrackIR in 2D. 6 hours ago, Flappie said: Are you all using DCS Input Command Injector by Quaggles, or any other controls-related mod? No controls-related mods in use. There are no red exclamation point warnings next to any of the commands related to centering view in my "UI Layers", "General", and aircraft commands.
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