DCS now supports OpenXR natively

[Sr.]

5 hours ago, Botik85 said:

I hope the videos from this channel will help you:

https://youtu.be/caboZ4RZVXQ

https://youtu.be/Rvs7ud_qhtg

 

 

Got it, thanks.

Noticed now there's a light green, opaque haze on the 2D mirror.

[Clyber]

Vr Guy just launched a new clip.

 

Is Native DCS OPENXR now working properly ? 

I had it installed for my Varjo Aero but the mouse function had errors in the cockpit. I couldnt click on the switches the clickable positions were displaced three weeks ago and ED said they are working on it. 

Is this problem fixed now for Varjo users or maybe because the VR Guy usses a HP  G2 Reverb he didnt experienced this issue ? 

Edited February 10, 2023 by Clyber

[edmuss]

The answer is quite literally on the first page of this forum

[peachmonkey]

1 hour ago, Clyber said:

Vr Guy just launched a new clip.

 

Is Native DCS OPENXR now working properly ? 

I had it installed for my Varjo Aero but the mouse function had errors in the cockpit. I couldnt click on the switches the clickable positions were displaced three weeks ago and ED said they are working on it. 

Is this problem fixed now for Varjo users .... ? 

 

not fixed, need to use a wrapper for Varjo (https://github.com/mbucchia/OpenXR-InstanceExtensionsWrapper/releases)

[Ramtin]

How does this work when you use the updater utility by skatezilla? I can't edit the target in the actual exe in the bin folder. This option only seems available in the shortcut properties. And the updater uses the actual exe from the bin folder so that doesnt work. 

Edited February 10, 2023 by Ramtin

[dburne]

1 hour ago, peachmonkey said:

not fixed, need to use a wrapper for Varjo (https://github.com/mbucchia/OpenXR-InstanceExtensionsWrapper/releases)

 

@BIGNEWY .

Will this be fixed in the next Open Beta Update where Varjo Aero users no longer need this wrapper to use their Aero in Open XR with DCS?

[Chief_Biv]

On 2/10/2023 at 12:30 AM, DirtyMike0330 said:

19 pages I've read through and I'm still unsure what to do if I want to revert from the opencomp method to the new native method on a G2. It seems like it was asked a couple times but not directly answered. I currently use opencomp for DCS and for nullIL2. I would want to keep the IL2 implementation of course. What do I need to do just specifically for DCS? 

You will need to update your Open XR  Toolkit to version 1.2.4 to avoid the game crashing if you are using motion reprojection with DCS 2.8.2 OpenXR VR

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by Chief_Biv

[rss0900]

I'm not sure I have it setup properly but DCS now opens without starting SteamVR but I went from about 39FPS in the apache down to 22FPS with OpenXR .   DCS and SteamVR run better for me so I'm not sure where my drop in performance is coming from as it seems others are reporting good increases.  I'm on an rtx 3080 with a reverb G2.

[edmuss]

6 hours ago, rss0900 said:

I'm not sure I have it setup properly but DCS now opens without starting SteamVR but I went from about 39FPS in the apache down to 22FPS with OpenXR .   DCS and SteamVR run better for me so I'm not sure where my drop in performance is coming from as it seems others are reporting good increases.  I'm on an rtx 3080 with a reverb G2.

Sounds like you have reprojection enabled. In steamvr it will have been disengaged because you're below half refresh rate. In openxr it will reproject to lower fractions of refresh rate. For more reading have a look through the first page of my running guide on this forum.

Is the view smooth and the framerate stable at 22fps? Keeping an eye on GPU frametime is a better indication of performance than the FPS counter.

[Baldrick33]

8 hours ago, rss0900 said:

I'm not sure I have it setup properly but DCS now opens without starting SteamVR but I went from about 39FPS in the apache down to 22FPS with OpenXR .   DCS and SteamVR run better for me so I'm not sure where my drop in performance is coming from as it seems others are reporting good increases.  I'm on an rtx 3080 with a reverb G2.

In my case I had SteamVR set to a custom (lower resolution). When I first tried OpenXR I thought the image was great but the FPS had dropped. Then I realised the default resolution in OpenXR was much higher. Once I set it to the same then all was good.

[Clyber]

On 2/11/2023 at 1:19 AM, edmuss said:

If you hadn't noticed, I pointed you directly at it by linking it in my reply

Oh, not at all, I'll help anyone if I can

 

Hey Edmuss, 

I did found out later there was a link with your answer and i would like to offer my apologies.

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Clyber

[waymann]

As a someone new to the sim i'd like to say that it would be helpful to add for the instructions that you have to use the openbeta for this to work

[desmoflex]

Hi guys, I am still a bit puzzled. Do you know by chance if this version 

DCS World

RELEASE

2.8.1.34667.2

12/27/2022

 Already has OpenXR support? It is the latest RELEASE version as far as I know. Using that version always starts SteamVR. Using the BETA, which came out a bit later,  starts OpenXR perfectly fine. 
cheers

[Pride37]

14 minutes ago, desmoflex said:

Hi guys, I am still a bit puzzled. Do you know by chance if this version 

DCS World

RELEASE

2.8.1.34667.2

12/27/2022

 Already has OpenXR support? It is the latest RELEASE version as far as I know. Using that version always starts SteamVR. Using the BETA, which came out a bit later,  starts OpenXR perfectly fine. 
cheers

Hi Desmoflex,

Nope, release version doesn't have native OpenXR support yet, so it's normal if it starts SteamVR.

[desmoflex]

Thx much Pride37 for your lightspeed feedback  it took me the whole evening to get the idea that the release version might not support natively OpenXR..   haha…. Again thx!

[Pride37]

29 minutes ago, desmoflex said:

Thx much Pride37 for your lightspeed feedback  it took me the whole evening to get the idea that the release version might not support natively OpenXR..   haha…. Again thx!

Well, not yet, but it will in a not too far future... Once the devs are happy with the Beta version , they'll transfer all its new features to the release version and when that happens, Beta and relase are both identical (same version number)... 'till the following Beta update!

Edited February 11, 2023 by Pride37
Ah, sorry, didn't wanted to sound like a "professor", but when I looked at your profile, I noticed you're far more experienced than I am in this forum...!! My reply obviously doesn't concern you as you might already know how it works!

[desmoflex]

Np. All good! I am a bit a on/off DCS user and it always takes me some time to get into the details again. And then I am extremely happy to get a quick answer or hint which helps me. I should have checked and compared the release vs beta changelog….. have a great weekend!

[Clyber]

19 hours ago, Baldrick33 said:

In my case I had SteamVR set to a custom (lower resolution). When I first tried OpenXR I thought the image was great but the FPS had dropped. Then I realised the default resolution in OpenXR was much higher. Once I set it to the same then all was good.

I also had a frame drop but that was after updating DCS. But i will definitely try the Openxr default setting to see if it has any effects for me. 

Thx for your input. 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Clyber

[desmoflex]

Hi, i am struggling with my framerates in OpenXR (3080TI and CPU clock 4.8)  and HP G2. Where can I adjust my render/screen resolution? is it via OpenXR toolkit only? Thx much!!

[Chief_Biv]

That’s where I do it. everywhere else is set to 100% or pixel density 1.0. I have an RTX3080 and a Reverb G2. I use FSR at 90% and  foveated  rendering in the toolkit. I also set MR on but unfixed so fps varies between 45 , 30 and 22. It’s smooth enough for me. I had to turn off any anti-shaking to minimise ghosting with MR. 

[Baldrick33]

21 minutes ago, desmoflex said:

Hi, i am struggling with my framerates in OpenXR (3080TI and CPU clock 4.8)  and HP G2. Where can I adjust my render/screen resolution? is it via OpenXR toolkit only? Thx much!!

You can also do it in the Microsoft OpenXR Tools for Mixed Reality - just set a customised render scale.

[desmoflex]

Thx! will give it a try.

@Chief_Biv foveated rendering works in DCS? I had trouble to use it in ACC...

@Baldrick33  using Microsoft OpenXR Tool for Mixed Reality will set the render scale for ALL OpenXR games then, right?

Edited February 12, 2023 by desmoflex
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[Baldrick33]

4 minutes ago, desmoflex said:

Thx! will give it a try.

@Chief_Biv foveated rendering works in DCS? I had trouble to use it in ACC...

@Baldrick33  using Microsoft OpenXR Tool for Mixed Reality will set the render scale for ALL OpenXR games then, right?

 

Fixed Foveated Rendering works with DCS using the OpenXR Toolkit

Setting the render scale in Microsoft OpenXR Tool for Mixed Reality will make it the default, which can be overridden per game using the OpenXR Toolkit.

[BIGNEWY]

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thank you

[Clyber]

15 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hidden off topic posts, please treat everyone with respect here on the forum 

rules can be found at the top of the page. 

thank you

I agree and i know the rules but have you followed the total conversation ?