MADLOU1 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 These old games bring back such fond memories. And to think most of us thought the graphics back then were amazing LOL. I can't imagine what the state of sims will be like 100 or even just 50 years from now! I guess we will eventually have real Star Trek like holodecks in our homes in which we could literally step into a virtual world without vr headsets and those virtual worlds would be so real they would be indistinguishable from reality. We would be able to literally touch, hear, smell and taste things just like in the real world. There was an episode of either Star Trek: The Next Generation or Star Trek: Deep Space Nine in which Engineer O'Malley and Dr. Bashir (I think) used the holodeck to pilot Spitfires during the Battle Of Britain. They experienced exactly what the real pilots did in every detail. If I could only live long enough to experience something like that . . . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streakeagle Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 7:45 AM, Rifter said: Start of my flight career on the ZX81 1982 - no high res graphics, not even colours. Literally flying by numbers! I played on a Timex Sinclair 1000 w/16kRAM. Not too much later, the US equivalent to the Spectrum arrived, the Timex Sinclair 2068. I had Fighter Pilot (an F-15 sim) and Tomahawk (an AH-64 sim). Fighter Pilot was a little rough, but flew a bit like an Eagle. Tomahawk was outstanding. 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glide Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 LHX Attack Chopper started it all for me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk1971 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 This was my first "flight sim", 1984, on the C64: Followed by: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxen Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jayhawk1971 said: This was my first "flight sim", 1984, on the C64: Followed by: I´m built in 1972 and had the same start. Gunship, I loved it a lot. Watching videos today let me ask why. We are pampered. 1 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagulha Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I started with A.C.E. in my Timex 2068 with a monochromatic display, just black and green. I can say we´ve come a long way in simulation 1 - "Don't be John Wayne in the Break if you´re going to be Jerry Lewis on the Ball". About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: I7 4790K 4.6ghz | 32GB RAM | Zotac GTX 1080Ti 11Gb DDR5x | Water cooler NZXT AIO Kraken x53 | 3.5TB (x4 SSD´s) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy_99 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel28 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) I started Flight Simulation prior to Computers this is where I started. Edited February 22, 2023 by Rebel28 added image 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Glide said: LHX Attack Chopper started it all for me. This is also one of those simulations that I played a lot back then. Especially the Osprey was a rarity in the hangar of simulations those days. I don't think they were in any other sim for a long time after that which had an Osprey. Then later in MS Flightsimulator 98 you could fly it again. 2 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glide Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Rebel28 said: I started Flight Simulation prior to Computers this is where I started. Get them when they're young! Edited February 22, 2023 by Glide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADLOU1 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 hours ago, fagulha said: I started with A.C.E. in my Timex 2068 with a monochromatic display, just black and green. I can say we´ve come a long way in simulation Makes me almost ashamed of myself complaining now how I can't get xx fps in my VR with maxed out graphics.. What if there was no VR or the state of graphics was close to same as in the 80s and 90s? I don't remember ever complaining about anything back then. How easy is it for us to become such spoiled brats!!! 9 hours ago, Rebel28 said: I started Flight Simulation prior to Computers this is where I started. I wouldnt mind having that Steve Canyon Helmet now! Wouldn't fit my big head but it would look cool on the shelf next to my flight sim rig. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagulha Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, MADLOU1 said: Makes me almost ashamed of myself complaining now how I can't get xx fps in my VR with maxed out graphics.. What if there was no VR or the state of graphics was close to same as in the 80s and 90s? I don't remember ever complaining about anything back then. How easy is it for us to become such spoiled brats!!! I wouldnt mind having that Steve Canyon Helmet now! Wouldn't fit my big head but it would look cool on the shelf next to my flight sim rig. Indeed. Especially when i´m upset because sometimes games take too long to load (+- 10 secs) and then i recall back then when i must wait about 25 minutes for the tape load the game in my Timex 2068 and then show me the most common error: Load Type Error.... and i start the process all over again... 2 1 - "Don't be John Wayne in the Break if you´re going to be Jerry Lewis on the Ball". About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: I7 4790K 4.6ghz | 32GB RAM | Zotac GTX 1080Ti 11Gb DDR5x | Water cooler NZXT AIO Kraken x53 | 3.5TB (x4 SSD´s) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifter Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Rebel28 said: I started Flight Simulation prior to Computers this is where I started. So you lucky devil startet with a sim pit and a projection system into your flight sim career. I haven’t even reached that point nowadays… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 21 hours ago, Coxy_99 said: Countless hours playing that against my brother via a serial connection. Belt-fed AMRAAMs FTW! 3 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 12:25 AM, fagulha said: Indeed. Especially when i´m upset because sometimes games take too long to load (+- 10 secs) and then i recall back then when i must wait about 25 minutes for the tape load the game in my Timex 2068 and then show me the most common error: Load Type Error.... and i start the process all over again... Hello, Same experience here (with some games / tapes, not all of them), in the long gone '80s, with my father's ZX Spectrum 48k ! I believe the most common message was: "tape loading error" or something, but when it worked it were hours of pure enjoyment. Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_hedlund Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I had hundreds of hours playing this one.....TAS: River Raid "Fastest Completion" by Lord Tom - Bing video and this one....F-19 Stealth Fighter - My Abandonware Edited March 4, 2023 by t_hedlund 1 www.tomhedlund.com Modules: A-10C, A-10CII. F-16, AV8B, F-5E, F-14, F/A-18C, P-51, BF-109, F-86, FC3, Ka-50, UH-1H, Mig-15, Mig-21, YAK-52, L-39. Maps: NTTR, PG, Normandy. Syria... Others: Super Carrier, WWII Asset Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagulha Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Top Jockey said: Hello, Same experience here (with some games / tapes, not all of them), in the long gone '80s, with my father's ZX Spectrum 48k ! I believe the most common message was: "tape loading error" or something, but when it worked it were hours of pure enjoyment. Yeah was something like that... gave me nightmares until today So, nowadays no game takes too long to load for me - "Don't be John Wayne in the Break if you´re going to be Jerry Lewis on the Ball". About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: I7 4790K 4.6ghz | 32GB RAM | Zotac GTX 1080Ti 11Gb DDR5x | Water cooler NZXT AIO Kraken x53 | 3.5TB (x4 SSD´s) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rato65 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 This brings up many memories... I started with MS FS back in 86 on a Hercules card and loved it... today I am blown away who realistic it has become, but I skipped it because of the annoying updates and overloaded user interface. 18 hours ago, fagulha said: So, nowadays no game takes too long to load for me Cannot agree on this one for the MSFS2020. I deinstalled it for now. One reason why I play DCS, after Gunship, Strike Commander, Longbow, Lockon and all DCS versions since. And, of course, helicopters! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog_driver Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Anybody tried this one? That's where I shot my first German plane back in 1985 or 1986. We (especially the owner of the Commodore ) were all very surprised that I managed to hit the plane at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack_UK Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 This was my start... (not my picture though) Fire the Phantom up a fishing line from the catapult on deck, watch it turn round and try to get it back on the deck neatly. Oh, and it lowered a hook as it turned. Can't remember if there was actually a cable or not. Slightly more relevant, it was then B1 Bomber on the TRS-80, which was a text based flight sim. Yes, really. It wasn't terribly immersive... Then Chuck Yeager, E-Falcon (which was the improved version of Falcon in EGA), LHX and Red Baron... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagulha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 21 hours ago, rato65 said: This brings up many memories... I started with MS FS back in 86 on a Hercules card and loved it... today I am blown away who realistic it has become, but I skipped it because of the annoying updates and overloaded user interface. Cannot agree on this one for the MSFS2020. I deinstalled it for now. One reason why I play DCS, after Gunship, Strike Commander, Longbow, Lockon and all DCS versions since. And, of course, helicopters! I bought MSFS a week ago and i´m loving it no issues with loading times (more or less like DCS in my case) but i know that experience may vary. It´s great to learn new things, to practice and to take a break from bombs and from military stuff. So far so good i already downloaded some AFB´s, scenery, airports, liveries, etc. 1 - "Don't be John Wayne in the Break if you´re going to be Jerry Lewis on the Ball". About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: I7 4790K 4.6ghz | 32GB RAM | Zotac GTX 1080Ti 11Gb DDR5x | Water cooler NZXT AIO Kraken x53 | 3.5TB (x4 SSD´s) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rato65 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, fagulha said: It´s great to learn new things, to practice and to take a break from bombs and from military stuff. Good point and I totally agree! In DCS I am fascinated by the helicopter flight physics and sling loading, and the aircraft visual. However, I will try MSFS again when my interent connection has improved. I meant the upgrade loading times - it took me 4-6 hours each time they release an upgrade without any possibility to postpone the download and simply play the game. The daily game loading is ok, I agree. And the visuals are simply stunning. Edited March 6, 2023 by rato65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagulha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, rato65 said: Good point and I totally agree! In DCS I am fascinated by the helicopter flight physics and sling loading, and the aircraft visual. However, I will try MSFS again when my interent connection has improved. I meant the upgrade loading times - it took me 4-6 hours each time they release an upgrade without any possibility to postpone the download and simply play the game. The daily game loading is ok, I agree. And the visuals are simply stunning. Ah got it. Well, sooner or later it will happen to me too. Not being able to postpone it it´s a bummer. Let´s see how it will be on my side when time comes. The installation (167 GB or something) took me around 2 hours. "And to take a break from bombs and from military stuff"... first thing i did with MSFS? searched and downloaded military AFB´s and military liveries 2 - "Don't be John Wayne in the Break if you´re going to be Jerry Lewis on the Ball". About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: I7 4790K 4.6ghz | 32GB RAM | Zotac GTX 1080Ti 11Gb DDR5x | Water cooler NZXT AIO Kraken x53 | 3.5TB (x4 SSD´s) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 First one I played was TFX - Tactical Fighter Experiment. Predecessor of EF2000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex81 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 All you Windows veterans may not know that there was also a whole series of flight sims on the MAC. I started in about 92 with Hellcats over the Pacific. Then came Hornet from Graphics simulations and the warthog sim. Last one I tried on a Mac was Falcon 4.0. All are still (in)active on numerous ancient Macs. I play them once or twice in winter. Lucky me I have enough space to store all the original boxes. 1 What goes up, must come down ! Intel Core i7-8700, 16 GB-RAM, Nvidia GTX 1060, 6 GB GDDR5, 1TB HDD, 500 GB 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD, Windows 10/64, A10-C, Rhino X55, Persian Golf, F/A-18 Hornet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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