thercman Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) What is your #1 choice for rudder pedals? Maybe you already own them or wish to own them.... Edited June 21, 2023 by thercman PC: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY, Ryzen 9 5900X, SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB x 3, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series DDR4 3600 128GB, RTX3080 Peripherals: VPC Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM3, TM F/A 18 Grip, MFG Crosswind V3 DCS Planes: F-16C Viper, F/A-18C Hornet, A-10C II, Supercarrier DCS Maps: Nevada, Syria, South Atlantic, Persian Gulf, Sinai DSC Campaigns: F/A-18C Flaming Sunrise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviators Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I tried them all, the best are Slaw Device and second place MFG 3 L'importante non è stabilire se uno ha paura o meno, è saper convivere con la propria paura e non farsi condizionare dalla stessa. Ecco, il coraggio è questo, altrimenti non è più coraggio ma incoscienza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I tried them all, the best are Slaw Device and second place MFG Agree on the Slaws. Haven't tried the MFGs though. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 VKB fits my demands perfectly 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | Buttkicker | SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 How can you determine a first choice if you only tried one of them? I have MFG's (coming from a CH set). They are great. But no clue how they compare to the others. 3 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviators Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 We must be objective and realistic. Logitech, turtle, ch etc. are plastic and the internal mechanism is not so perfect. VKB, has a nice mechanism, but are not real pedals (movement up and down) great for helicopters, but not adaptable to other aircraft (they do not have the brake, but through software you can set the brake, a casino). For pedals you have to see many factors. First, the internal mechanism, the robustness of the pedals, the customization and adaptability to the various modules. Only two seem suitable for all this Slaw and MFG. Too bad SLAW has interrupted production and he has also recently developed pedals with movement up and down. It would have been perfect if he made the AH64 model. The last model he developed is based on the apache, but then for various reasons he decided to make various changes to the pedals. VPC also has beautiful pedals, robust and excellent internal mechanism. Above average, but below SLAW and MFG 1 L'importante non è stabilire se uno ha paura o meno, è saper convivere con la propria paura e non farsi condizionare dalla stessa. Ecco, il coraggio è questo, altrimenti non è più coraggio ma incoscienza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcaa0g Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I like the MFG's the best from an all around standpoint. I have the MFG for almost a decade now and still no mechanical or electrical issues. Also, lots of replacement parts available on their site including the key circuit board and they don't stop production for awhile or abandon a model entirely for an entirely different design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thercman Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Lange_666 said: How can you determine a first choice if you only tried one of them? Research and personal requirements… I’ve never used any PC/gaming rudder pedals. So I need determine what the best are for me by reading others experiences and by assessing build quality. For example I don’t want plastic toys that won’t last. That eliminates quite a few. Having the ability to repair them is high on the list of requirements as well… Up until know I’ve been considering the VPC pedals. Along with build quality they would integrate well with my other Virpil gear and software. With that said, the MFG crosswinds might be winning me over. The Slaw pedals do look to be the best built but that comes at a cost. I do believe in the buy once cry one once ideology with the caveat that I consider diminishing returns. Are they worth 2 times the cost of my other options? If so, what am I getting for that cost beyond bragging rights? 1 PC: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY, Ryzen 9 5900X, SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB x 3, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series DDR4 3600 128GB, RTX3080 Peripherals: VPC Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM3, TM F/A 18 Grip, MFG Crosswind V3 DCS Planes: F-16C Viper, F/A-18C Hornet, A-10C II, Supercarrier DCS Maps: Nevada, Syria, South Atlantic, Persian Gulf, Sinai DSC Campaigns: F/A-18C Flaming Sunrise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I like the MFG's the best from an all around standpoint. I have the MFG for almost a decade now and still no mechanical or electrical issues. Also, lots of replacement parts available on their site including the key circuit board and they don't stop production for awhile or abandon a model entirely for an entirely different design.The Slaws project evolves, and it's basically two different models/projects. That said, I don't think they are "beyond" the MFGs in functionality, or even better, they just looks the best.If you can't wait, definitely get the MFGs, that's what I should have done now. I'll get the MFDs sometime in the future for comparison obviously, and I'm positive they are just as good. And I'm really eager to get the high end TMs too, I just don't like the plastic parts, and the lack of native parts/solution to mount a damper.I have had the cheapo TM rudders, they are NOT bad in any way. Except:Too narrowYou must place your feet "in" themNo damper supportPlasticOne major pluss is though. On the bottom there's a lid you can remove, which make you able to remove the spring, which practice make you able to re-add it in seconds. Add some Nyogel 767 for a dampening effect, and get the 3D prints to expand them. Then they will be the best bang for the buck. I promise!Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thercman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 MFG V3 are back in stock! I placed my order this morning… 2 PC: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY, Ryzen 9 5900X, SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB x 3, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series DDR4 3600 128GB, RTX3080 Peripherals: VPC Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM3, TM F/A 18 Grip, MFG Crosswind V3 DCS Planes: F-16C Viper, F/A-18C Hornet, A-10C II, Supercarrier DCS Maps: Nevada, Syria, South Atlantic, Persian Gulf, Sinai DSC Campaigns: F/A-18C Flaming Sunrise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, thercman said: MFG V3 are back in stock! I placed my order this morning… Nice choice - congrats! 2 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker22 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Peddles on the TWCS throttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign.Vega Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Had the MFG Crosswinds, felt they were totally over-rated. Have the Thrustmaster TPR but may try the Slaws. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Had the MFG Crosswinds, felt they were totally over-rated. Have the Thrustmaster TPR but may try the Slaws. You like the TPRs better than the MFGs?Interesting! What about the build quality? Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I’ve been using CH pedals for 13 years and they still work fine. I was only able to compare them to Logitech which felt spongy but probably worked ok. My only assessment are things which could either be advantages or not depending on your taste. First they’re small and light meaning they will fit in a normal desk knee space plus you can move them easily if you need to. A rubber shelf liner pad will hold them in place so the weight isn’t a problem. I occasionally move them for racing so this is a plus. Some people probably wouldn’t like how narrow they are but that could be a plus depending on your setup. I honestly don’t see the point in expensive rudder pedals even though I enjoy throwing money at this hobby, I haven’t found a reason to replace the CH ones. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightdare Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I went from Saitek Combat Rudders to Virpil's Ace (Considered MFG, but every time I checked they were out of stock, ...so were the VPC, but scored a big discount on those) Man, I should have done that a lot sooner (especially since one of the toe brakes stopped functioning on the Saitek just out of warranty but luckily, i wasn't flying planes with toebrakes) The difference is night and day 1 Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50cm Stick, T50 Throttle, ACE Interceptor Rudder Pedals / WinWing Orion2 18, 18 UFC&HUD / Thrustmaster MFD Cougar / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / DIY Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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