Is napalm on the list of weapons for Heatblur to develop for the F4?

[Mohamengina]

Will the F4 introduce napalm or is ED working on that weapon type exclusively?

[303_Kermit]

I was already discussed, please keep F-4 Topic clear & clean. Search topic first, instead of multiplying them. 

 

Edited August 26, 2023 by 303_Kermit

[Mohamengina]

What was the answer?

[G.J.S]

9 minutes ago, Mohamengina said:

What was the answer?

Currently at work with bad internet, so can’t search - though you could - but seem to remember the answer being no.

[Mars Exulte]

Weapons development is no longer handled by individual devs due to previous issues with duplication and variable performance. All weapons are centrally developed/approved by ED, unless something has changed. Last time ED mentioned napalm it was on the ''to-do'' list eventually.

To be fair, in DCS, especially with the wonky damage models, the usefulness of an incendiary is... questionable. Probably make neat explosions, though.

[Gunfreak]

4 hours ago, Mars Exulte said:

Weapons development is no longer handled by individual devs due to previous issues with duplication and variable performance. All weapons are centrally developed/approved by ED, unless something has changed. Last time ED mentioned napalm it was on the ''to-do'' list eventually.

To be fair, in DCS, especially with the wonky damage models, the usefulness of an incendiary is... questionable. Probably make neat explosions, though.

Yeah something has to be done with splash damage modeling. As napalm is all splashing damage. 

[Elf1606688794]

On 8/26/2023 at 2:56 AM, 303_Kermit said:

I was already discussed, please keep F-4 Topic clear & clean. Search topic first, instead of multiplying them. 

 

 

There's a Hall Monitor in every crowd.

[Dragon1-1]

19 hours ago, Mars Exulte said:

All weapons are centrally developed/approved by ED, unless something has changed.

This is not quite true. Devs still have input with regards to weapons, and they do develop them, it's just done in cooperation with ED. In fact, HB is working with ED on other core features, as well (such as the RWR sound library). The development had been centralized, but it doesn't mean 3rd parties are locked out of it. When the time comes, HB will likely work with ED on napalm, as well. 

And let's face it, napalm will come in handy for many of the aircraft. From the A-1 to the Hornet (well, it's not actual napalm on the latter, but Mk77 is similar enough), incendiaries have been on the armament list.

[Harlikwin]

2 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

This is not quite true. Devs still have input with regards to weapons, and they do develop them, it's just done in cooperation with ED. In fact, HB is working with ED on other core features, as well (such as the RWR sound library). The development had been centralized, but it doesn't mean 3rd parties are locked out of it. When the time comes, HB will likely work with ED on napalm, as well. 

And let's face it, napalm will come in handy for many of the aircraft. From the A-1 to the Hornet (well, it's not actual napalm on the latter, but Mk77 is similar enough), incendiaries have been on the armament list.

The core issue though is the really bad overall damage modeling in DCS along with various weapon effects. 

 

[Gunfreak]

9 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

This is not quite true. Devs still have input with regards to weapons, and they do develop them, it's just done in cooperation with ED. In fact, HB is working with ED on other core features, as well (such as the RWR sound library). The development had been centralized, but it doesn't mean 3rd parties are locked out of it. When the time comes, HB will likely work with ED on napalm, as well. 

And let's face it, napalm will come in handy for many of the aircraft. From the A-1 to the Hornet (well, it's not actual napalm on the latter, but Mk77 is similar enough), incendiaries have been on the armament list.

I think every single 2nd and 3rd gen American aircraft that could carry bombs also used Naplam, so thats F4, F5, A4 mod, the upcoming A1, F104, F100, A7 and A6.

As well as the Corsair and Hellcat. 

[Silver_Dragon]

3 hours ago, Gunfreak said:

I think every single 2nd and 3rd gen American aircraft that could carry bombs also used Naplam, so thats F4, F5, A4 mod, the upcoming A1, F104, F100, A7 and A6.

As well as the Corsair and Hellcat. 

Napalm coming to WW2 with AN-M76 incendiary bombs, on allied aircrafts as Mosquito FB.IV.
https://www.bulletpicker.com/bomb_-500-lb-incendiary_-an-m7.html

Other weapon has the M69 incendiary bomb used by bombers (We have M57 White Phosforous on DCS World directories).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M69_incendiary

The problem has no if HB build or not the bomb, missing the core feature about incendiary weapons, and the effects about incendiary bombs, required not only a coder, need a 3D modeler with FumeFx experience to make them (on the ED carrer jobs list).

[Grimleo]

ED was showing several Napalm drops in the 2023 and Beyond video you idiots. Three drops in fact.

Now I would like inert Practice Nuke weapons. Still, something that is a "Bridge Too Far" for ED. War Thunder has Nukes now.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Grimleo

[Hiob]

37 minutes ago, Grimleo said:

<…>you idiots.

 

Uno Reverse!

Boom, there you go! 

[Silver_Dragon]

54 minutes ago, Grimleo said:

ED was showing several Napalm drops in the 2023 and Beyond video you idiots. Three drops in fact.

Now I would like inert Practice Nuke weapons. Still, something that is a "Bridge Too Far" for ED. War Thunder has Nukes now.

 

That has none with napalm, has only old DCS explosion effects, post on the ED video comentary sections. ED working on build propper Napalm efects on a future.

Posted on ED Facebook:

- About Napalm

Quote

It is planned. -Wags

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Silver_Dragon

[Grimleo]

What weapons use that effect in DCS right now? 

[Harlikwin]

I wonder if napalm will actually damage/burn our concrete trees.

 

[RevampedGrunt]

11 hours ago, Harlikwin said:

I wonder if napalm will actually damage/burn our concrete trees.

 

Perhaps they'll make it negate obstacles, as long as it's within a certain area, until destructible environment is a thing. 

[Silver_Dragon]

12 hours ago, Harlikwin said:

I wonder if napalm will actually damage/burn our concrete trees.

 

Only if ED implement them on the core, on fact, no only by Napalm, explosions need burn / destroy them (missing feature).

Edited September 1, 2023 by Silver_Dragon

[Bremspropeller]

On 8/29/2023 at 9:35 AM, Gunfreak said:

Yeah something has to be done with splash damage modeling. As napalm is all splashing damage.

It sure is a hot topic.

[Nodak]

Its a necessity with an F-100 and A-1H in the pipelines, a primary weapon for both.

[Harlikwin]

25 minutes ago, Nodak said:

Its a necessity with an F-100 and A-1H in the pipelines, a primary weapon for both.

You think clouds blocking IR missiles and visual spotting for AI would also be a necessity. But well.... 

[Elf1606688794]

On 9/1/2023 at 11:26 AM, Harlikwin said:

You think clouds blocking IR missiles and visual spotting for AI would also be a necessity. But well.... 

Just to be clear, in game...clouds do or do not block IR missiles?

[RaisedByWolves]

Love the smell of napalm. Smells like…..victory.

[Trooper117]

On 8/31/2023 at 6:17 PM, Grimleo said:

War Thunder has Nukes now.

Sigh...

[SgtPappy]

12 hours ago, Elf1606688794 said:

Just to be clear, in game...clouds do or do not block IR missiles?

Clouds do not currently block IR missiles or any sensor in-game.