Patch notes discussion October 2023 - DCS 2.9

[Mateo]

ED should propose some troubleshooting/update/solution for stuttering/freezes that many users have mentioned. It is not about quality, it just makes DCS unplayable right now even we have got good FPS, stuttering and freeze are worse than stable low fps. I have experienced it EVEN with all settings to OFF/LOW and after delete metasheders2 and fxo as suggested with older updates.

 

Edit: Stutter and freeze are not VR related issue.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Mateo
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[slughead]

2 minutes ago, Mateo said:

ED should propose some troubleshooting/update/solution for stuttering/freezes that many users have mentioned. It is not about quality, it just makes DCS unplayable right now even we have got good FPS, stuttering and freeze are worse than stable low fps. I have experienced it EVEN with all settings to OFF/LOW and after delete metasheders2 and fxo as suggested with older updates.

 

Edit: Stutter and freeze are not VR related issue.

 

Try this thread: 

 

 

The workaround appears to be to disable the CPU core that is pegged at 100% for DCS. For many that is core 8.

[shazam253]

I wasn't able to try out it yet, but for those experiencing reduction in FPS, stutters and such: I would recommend to do a slow repair of your DCS install and disable any community mods. If that still fails, move your save game folder and start fresh. If it helps, gradually put the old pieces back to see where it breaks. Potentially this will also help the devs, as you uncover where it is coming from.

Edited October 20, 2023 by shazam253

[CIWS]

Since the 2.9 update now external graphics have a shaking / shuddering effect going on.   RTX 4070 with ver 537.13 first, then updated to latest 545.84 GRD. Getting the same result.

[BackboneOne]

im absolutely blown away with DLSS perfomance boost and quality. 4070 12Gb, 2k, 49' QLED, all maxed out. a historical milestone indeed, we were waiting for this for a long-long time!

56 minutes ago, CIWS said:

Since the 2.9 update now external graphics have a shaking / shuddering effect going on.   RTX 4070 with ver 537.13 first, then updated to latest 545.84 GRD. Getting the same result.

dont get it. any mods you are using?

Edited October 20, 2023 by BackboneOne

[Nuggetz]

Having updated Quad Views to the latest v1.1.3 the clarity and fps issues experienced have been resolved in my Pimax Crystal. 
 

However if DLSS or any of the AA/DLAA settings are selected I get a few lines of white text in the headset (only) fov close to the edge so difficult to read as it moves with the headset. In short something to do with autoexposure off, resolution numbers etc. 

 

The only way not to have the message is with DLSS and DLAA set to off. Once flying DLAA can be selected on but frankly no improvement noticed with the shimmer were present ie pylons security fences etc. 
 

Otherwise good work ED and mbucchia for the Quad Views update (great work!). 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Nuggetz

[Wiz]

59 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Are you sure, you are running MT? Check the version number in the low right corner. Does it say MT? Are you on Steam?

It is MT preview 46801  I am not a steam player. Something also new for me, I just crashed out of game on Dawn Raiders. 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Wiz
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[sniperwolfpk5]

11 hours ago, Slippa said:

My grass is fine though I do have every other aircraft vibrating in the air after the update.

Violently shaking, unwatchable.

 

You have Australian grass lol 

[Vakarian]

26 minutes ago, CIWS said:

Since the 2.9 update now external graphics have a shaking / shuddering effect going on.   RTX 4070 with ver 537.13 first, then updated to latest 545.84 GRD. Getting the same result.

It's in the changelog, a known issue.

Known Issues - Hotfix planned
Objects moving at speed may begin to jitter after some time in mission

[Mar28]

Tested for 30 min so far, and also getting stutters no matter of setting I have tryed to adjust. Happy to see others with the same problem.

Will try more this weekend and post a track and my Log.

Thanks in advance .

MSI Z390 Gaming Plus, Intel I7 8700 4.2ghz, 32gb 3000mhz corsair ,MSI GTX 1080TI 11gb  WD Blue M2 SSD 1tb , WIN10 pro

Edited October 20, 2023 by Mar28

[Hiob]

17 minutes ago, Wiz said:

It is MT preview 46801  I am not a steam player. Something also new for me, I just crashed out of game on Dawn Raiders.  

 

Hmm, sorry, other than disableing all inofficial mods (if you run any) and thoroughly checking all GFX options, I have no idea then. Maybe check/update the nvidia drvers/settings....

[Wiz]

11 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Hmm, sorry, other than disableing all inofficial mods (if you run any) and thoroughly checking all GFX options, I have no idea then. Maybe check/update the nvidia drvers/settings....

Yeah it is a vanilla build....  Something in 2.9 is not playing well apparently.  I'll chill and see what they find.  Thanks for the assistance

[Hiob]

1 minute ago, Wiz said:

Yeah it is a vanilla build....  Something in 2.9 is not playing well apparently.  I'll chill and see what they find.  Thanks for the assistance

Can you clue us in on your setup? What kind of GPU, RAM, Resolution are you running? Which Aircraft and Map have you tried so far?

Maybe attach a picture of your settings.

Problem is, your kind of troubles doesn't seem to represent the general experience. So there may be an individual problem. Waiting for ED to solve the issue could take a lot of patience.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Hiob

[Wiz]

all settings on low 12th gen CPU /4080/ 2.9 stutters vanilla install error checked.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Wiz

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, CIWS said:

Since the 2.9 update now external graphics have a shaking / shuddering effect going on.   RTX 4070 with ver 537.13 first, then updated to latest 545.84 GRD. Getting the same result.

No, nothing new, it was in 2.8 too, not solved yet

[Razorback]

My feeling and the feeling of most of the members of my squadron: ED good job well done!
The 2.9 is a real game changer... especially for helicopters. As well as the improved performance and graphics quality, the downwashing and dust effect for the helicopters is just fantastic.
There's no shortage of criticism when certain things don't work properly (and I'm not the last to do so), so it's perfectly normal to also say when the work is of a high standard, and clearly that's the case here.

We're already looking forward to the rest...
Thanks for the work! 

[KCOOL]

2 hours ago, Wiz said:

Not sure what happened but 2.9 sunk my experience.  I am freezing, stuttering, external view I look like i have milk coming off the wings.   I didnt change any settings.  2.8 was rock solid.  12th gen CPU, 64 ram and 4080.  Do i need to set something up? Latest NVIDIA drivers.

 

I had the same with 4090 for some hours after the update. In my case afterburner settings for 2.8 did not work for 2.9. Only 15-30 FPS in welcome page...

With 2.8 I was 215 WMR, MSAAx4, FSR 78. Awesome visuals, 45 FPS.

With 2.9 i tried letting afterburner at default, no undervolted. The FPS issue at welcome pago gone.

Then it worked well at WMR 200, DLSS Quality and CAS 100 (toolkit). Today I will try only DLAA.

SSS seems.to cause odd shadows? There are some issues with terrain shadows colors as someone mention in a previous post.

Edited October 20, 2023 by KCOOL

[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

Stutters are crazy right now, it does not matter what graphic options you have, makes it unplayable

[Beirut]

I haven't seen any improvements with DLSS but I'm just loving the look of the sim. Crisp and clean and delicious!

 

I'll have to keep watching more videos about DLSS I guess.

[PLUTON]

ested 2.9 last night and was 90% satisfied, improvement on many levels.
DLSS: FPS increase of around 15% but poor image quality.
DLAA: no increase in FPS but perfect overall clarity and visuals, the forests, towns and buildings super sharp from a distance as well as up close and the cockpit a real high resolution photo
so for now I opt for DLAA. Smooth 55/60 FPS?
and all this with an I7/7700K and an RTX 2080, too bad I have from time to time a little freeze of 1 second especially when I turn my head quickly, of course I only fly in VR with a Reverb G2.
I'm going to do more tests this evening to continue refining the settings, in the meantime thank you to the ED team for your hard work.
Greetings and good flight to all.

[KCOOL]

5 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

ested 2.9 last night and was 90% satisfied, improvement on many levels.
DLSS: FPS increase of around 15% but poor image quality.
DLAA: no increase in FPS but perfect overall clarity and visuals, the forests, towns and buildings super sharp from a distance as well as up close and the cockpit a real high resolution photo
so for now I opt for DLAA. Smooth 55/60 FPS?
and all this with an I7/7700K and an RTX 2080, too bad I have from time to time a little freeze of 1 second especially when I turn my head quickly, of course I only fly in VR with a Reverb G2.
I'm going to do more tests this evening to continue refining the settings, in the meantime thank you to the ED team for your hard work.
Greetings and good flight to all.

Are you running memory at gear 1 in BIOS? For me it improved fluency.

DLAA and CAS 100.could be a good.combo, DLSS and CAS 100 usually works well. I will try later 

Edited October 20, 2023 by KCOOL

[PLUTON]

Ha I didn't even know there was a memory setting in the bios

[CIWS]

42 minutes ago, YoYo said:

No, nothing new, it was in 2.8 too, not solved yet

Did not have the problem before 2.9.  

 

 

 

Since I keep seeing folks saying this was a known issue at release, then I'll simply assume a lot of these "issues" were known and they released it anyway.  So I'm out of this thread.

[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, CIWS said:

Did not have the problem before 2.9.  

 

 

 

Since I keep seeing folks saying this was a known issue at release, then I'll simply assume a lot of these "issues" were known and they released it anyway.  So I'm out of this thread.

We have known issues in the patch notes, and we are reporting many issues already with peoples feedback. 

Please remember open beta is a public test build so there will be disruption occasionally while we work on issues. 

thank you

[HARTMANN1145]

Just downloaded 2.9 this morning and to say its early days I'm impressed.DLSS is working great,have most settings maxed out and with Steam MT I'm seeing steady 140 frames even flying over towns etc!

Great.