DCS: Afghanistan FAQ

[draconus]

The guy is trying to ask about the green parts (see below). It is indeed unclear if they are always low detail - and if not - which part of the map includes which one, assuming the whole map includes them both.

Edited April 9, 2024 by draconus

[Hiob]

3 hours ago, draconus said:

The guy is trying to ask about the green parts (see below). It is indeed unclear if they are always low res - and if not - which part of the map includes which one, assuming the whole map includes them both.

I would assume with the greens it is similar to the edges of other maps. Not neccessarily low resolution, but low detail and not populated. 

[rob10]

20 hours ago, draconus said:

The guy is trying to ask about the green parts (see below). It is indeed unclear if they are always low detail - and if not - which part of the map includes which one, assuming the whole map includes them both.

I understand that, but to me it's pretty clear that only the red, blue and black areas are high res (no matter how you buy it) and the other areas, as Hiob said are similar to the edges of other maps (so lower detail/resolution).  Even when they talk about buying the whole map, they refer to getting the 3 high res areas.

[Arennord]

On 4/8/2024 at 7:14 PM, RegaeRevaeb said:

Again, it isn't about paying more when purchased in pieces. That's fine. I'm thinking about people for whom buying in pieces is the affordable value choice for them (e.g. getting to play right away; working cash flow for real life; etc.). And I was just talking about getting access to high-resolution parts of the whole map remaining after someone has bought the three available piece maps. Hopefully that clarifies things.

Then I misunderstood you. To my understanding, the regions outside the three main zones won't be high res and, as others already pointed out, they will probably be similar to the edges of other maps. There will be terrain and some buildings, but nothing too fancy.

[Mr.Jazzy]

This will be one of the best and popular maps for DCS. Still waiting for Steam pre-order, though.

[exhausted]

On 3/29/2024 at 8:14 PM, Minsky said:

Concern =/= proven impact.

We don't ask for a low detail terrain. We will settle for no details at all. Flat surface with a basic shoreline will do. We merely want a patch of ocean to place a carrier and cosplay the OEF.

Do you remember the early days of the Syria map, with all its performance woes?

So how comes the heaviest map in DCS has this 400 (four hundred) miles beyond the detailed area?

If all this empty space is such a burden to DCS engine, then why didn't they start optimizing the map by cutting it?

This is absolutely fine with me. The Pakistani coastline is a big deal for Afghan scenarios, as it is in itself still contested area that can lead to flashpoint in the future.

[LimePartician]

@BIGNEWY What LoD will we see to airfields, will they be highly accurate or will they just be low end like most other maps

[draconus]

36 minutes ago, LimePartician said:

What LoD will we see to airfields, will they be highly accurate or will they just be low end like most other maps

You mean most maps have "low end" airfields? Can you be more specific?

[Dex0]

On 3/28/2024 at 7:23 PM, Tiromir said:

Are you guys going bankrupt? We're trying to figure it out and this is the only explanation that makes sense.

 

*raise hand (I don't think my rig can take it. Might need a new PC)

Edited April 18, 2024 by Dex0

[Tiromir]

Mary would be an incredibly valuable addition for sure

[MrReynolds]

I'm interested to see a possible side-by-side comparison of low vs hi versions.

Being British, I am really looking forward to the South West part, but don't (at present) care too much about the rest.  I'm thinking I'll plump for the SW, and just use low res for the rest.

Are there any other maps / images that I have missed that could "persuade" me to go for the entire map?

TIA.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2024 by MrReynolds

[Stix]

Full map purchased  (in pre-order).  Looking forward to it!

[Tom P]

Any side by side photos of the high detailed vs low detail areas for those that buy the full map vs regions.

Also can we expect some screenshots of the areas anytime soon? Really curious to see how it looks from low level. Some of us don't plink targets from 30,000+

The Eiffel Tower on Normandy 2.0 looks great from 30,000ft but when you get right next to it... 

[pegasus1]

On 4/1/2024 at 3:49 AM, zerO_crash said:

It's a simulator. As a simulator, factuality is a major factor in determining its credibility as such. I don't see the point at all for such response to an otherwise good and justified question!

 

Its a game and is a long long way from simulating a proper simulator, so its even further from having any hope of simulating real life.

[zerO_crash]

1 hour ago, pegasus1 said:

Its a game and is a long long way from simulating a proper simulator, so its even further from having any hope of simulating real life.

"... simulating a proper simulator..." - what?

 

You obviously have no clue what you're writing. I'll decide on the rest!

[LimePartician]

On 4/17/2024 at 3:05 PM, draconus said:

You mean most maps have "low end" airfields? Can you be more specific?

Sure, missing taxiways, roads for ground services, buildings, taxiway markings.
Wrong taxiway layouts on most airfields.
The list can go on.

[pegasus1]

On 4/21/2024 at 3:02 PM, zerO_crash said:

"... simulating a proper simulator..." - what?

 

You obviously have no clue what you're writing. I'll decide on the rest!

Well you know a professional simulator, well that is actually a pretty poor representation of real life, and DCS is a game that has a decent go at simulating a professional simulator.

If in doubt, find somebody who has operated in a non permissive environment, and then let them play on DCS and see if they can feel/see any similarities.

[draconus]

19 hours ago, pegasus1 said:

DCS is a game that has a decent go at simulating a professional simulator.

No, DCS is not simulating a simulator, LOL.

[Stratos]

On 3/29/2024 at 12:40 AM, durka-durka said:

Is there any information about seasons?  I thought I saw snow in the trailer at :44, but wasn't entirely sure.  

Was this question answered?

[Weta43]

Which Zaranj airbase are we getting, the old Soviet one in the center of the city, or the new one 20km to the east of the city?

 

Edited May 18, 2024 by Weta43

[toubey]

I don't get the whole "which map part to buy" and when. If you want to play it anyway, just buy in pre order for 49. Did I miss something? Doesn't matter... I'm looking forward to it! And the Kiowa . Even built a collective for that thing... and trying my luck with the oh-6 at the moment.

[RafaPolit]

10 hours ago, toubey said:

I don't get the whole "which map part to buy" and when. If you want to play it anyway, just buy in pre order for 49. Did I miss something? Doesn't matter... I'm looking forward to it! And the Kiowa . Even built a collective for that thing... and trying my luck with the oh-6 at the moment.

I think it's more difficult to understand since the only possible part, as of first access, would be the southern one.   So both purchasers of the "smaller" package and the "whole" package would get the same thing upon release, which makes it difficult to understand.  Once the three areas are out, it would make more sense: I want to buy just area A, or just area B, or C, or all the areas.  And, if you buy one and then want to expand, you can always do it, but it will cost more than purchasing the entire thing.

Where I do agree it's even more confusing is that the price difference from one area to the whole package is not that significant, so going for the larger one at this point in time seems to be the no-brainer option.  Which is probably the intended outcome from ED as well, which is also a good thing.

[durka-durka]

15 hours ago, RafaPolit said:

I think it's more difficult to understand since the only possible part, as of first access, would be the southern one.   So both purchasers of the "smaller" package and the "whole" package would get the same thing upon release, which makes it difficult to understand.  Once the three areas are out, it would make more sense: I want to buy just area A, or just area B, or C, or all the areas.  And, if you buy one and then want to expand, you can always do it, but it will cost more than purchasing the entire thing.

Where I do agree it's even more confusing is that the price difference from one area to the whole package is not that significant, so going for the larger one at this point in time seems to be the no-brainer option.  Which is probably the intended outcome from ED as well, which is also a good thing.

I used to own a business, and from time to time I would do something like this in order to give my clients (who didn't have all money upfront) some options.  It was my way of being accommodating (i.e. nice) to my clients. It backfired almost all the time because those clients never could really wrap their head around thinking of others perspectives. The ones who could afford it were mad because things got complicated. The ones who couldn't weren't going to buy my stuff anyways.  Lose/Lose.

ED is just trying to accommodate everyone here. They're actually doing a pretty good job of it by making the whole map available and only charging for detail.  When you look at it from someone's perspective who doesn't want to shell out the whole price, it makes sense.  If you look at the price difference from ED's perspective, that extra people are paying for is for the code work to break up the maps. Think of it as a form of processing fee or interest on a loan.  If I bought this map on a credit card, I'd be paying the same price as guys breaking it up.

[draconus]

What about whole map low fidelity version?

[Tom P]

Will there be known FOBs/outposts already placed or is that on mission makers to try and make them?