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Any info about the F-104 module development?

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irisono

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Next month will be one year since the F-104 was announced by Aerges. I think it's time to give a first update on the development progress. A small announcement like: 'Yes, one team is now working on the FM and another on the cockpit design. The progress is...' or something similar would be very welcome. There is an excellent F-104 mod that helps bridge the time until the real FF module is released. But DCS's chaotic update process keeps destroying the functionality of these mods. The hopes of F-104 fans now lie in good progress from Aerges.

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Ala13_ManOWar

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It doesn't really matter whether it's been a year since first announcement (meaning they got ED's Ok to go ahead for the module), and I'm sure they're working on it even slowly and all, but it was said from the beginning that Starfighter would only come (and be fully developed, I guess) after the F1M version were released, which happens to be the heftier one and the more different due to a deep overhaul into that version compared to the previous ones we already have. F1M isn't here, at all, and the time it's taking to be developed just tells how different it was compared to the previous ones we already have. So, without the F1M out they probably haven't put all their work power into the Starfighter yet, some perhaps, sure they are working on it, but it's too early and we know nothing about F1M yet to think about Starfighter being started to be worked on deeply.

Anyhow, since Aerges is more than experienced now, and Starfighter is a relatively "simple" aircraft from the century series in terms of avionics, maybe systems, I don't think it'll be a module taking really long development time once they put it on the burner all the way. We'll see.

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fausete

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Hi, we are preparing a proper update about this. In the meantime I can confirm we are working on the F-104 already and at good pace. Some members of the team are dedicating most of their time to the 104 while some others are still more focused on the F1M.

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irisono

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vor 57 Minuten schrieb fausete:

Hi, we are preparing a proper update about this. In the meantime I can confirm we are working on the F-104 already and at good pace. Some members of the team are dedicating most of their time to the 104 while some others are still more focused on the F1M.

I’m glad that we do not have to make do with speculations that have no basis in fact. I am all the more grateful that the developer has spoken out and is seeking communication with the DCS community. Thank you for this closeness to customers. I am eagerly awaiting the announced update.

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MAXsenna

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Hi, we are preparing a proper update about this. In the meantime I can confirm we are working on the F-104 already and at good pace. Some members of the team are dedicating most of their time to the 104 while some others are still more focused on the F1M.
Excellent news! I'm really enjoying the F-1, and I'm sure your team will raise the bar even higher with the Starfighter!

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Ala13_ManOWar

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12 hours ago, fausete said:

Hi, we are preparing a proper update about this. In the meantime I can confirm we are working on the F-104 already and at good pace. Some members of the team are dedicating most of their time to the 104 while some others are still more focused on the F1M.

Amazing news!! thanks mate :clap: .

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MichaelJWP15

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I am really looking forward to this one, the F-104 has been one of my favourite jets since I was a young kid with a poster of it on my bedroom wall 🙂

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Max Thunder

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On 8/7/2024 at 12:29 AM, MichaelJWP15 said:

I am really looking forward to this one, the F-104 has been one of my favourite jets since I was a young kid with a poster of it on my bedroom wall 🙂

Same! The F104, The F4 and the Tornado. Maybe because I was born and raised in Germany. 

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On 7/25/2024 at 11:56 AM, fausete said:

Hi, we are preparing a proper update about this. In the meantime I can confirm we are working on the F-104 already and at good pace. Some members of the team are dedicating most of their time to the 104 while some others are still more focused on the F1M.

Hey guys, friendly shake of the tree here, eager to find out more about which variant(s) 👀 of the Zipper we can expect to see.  Can't wait regardless

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Bigskill

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Il 28/10/2024 at 06:06, impreza ha scritto:

any possibility to have the latest versions? I mean ... the variants with sparrows 

I really hope so too!!! Also because I dont think we are going to see many variant of the F104. Better have one with sparrow/Aspide.

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Plus an original low drag late 1950s air superiority variant from the era when the F-104's kinematic performance still it an edge in air combat, and it was something special in the air. 👌

F-104.jpg

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IvanK

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6 hours ago, gulredrel said:

Wasn't there an early version with downward firing ejection seat? Whose brilliant idea was this?

Lockheed's 🙂

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GrafRotz

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21 hours ago, gulredrel said:

Whose brilliant idea was this?

better than beeing splitted into two parts by the rudder. Those Seats where still in the early stage at that time. Germany changed to the C2 seat which was usable to eject at zero height, but still at an airspeed above 100 knots.

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IvanK

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On 11/23/2024 at 11:18 PM, GrafRotz said:

better than beeing splitted into two parts by the rudder. Those Seats where still in the early stage at that time. Germany changed to the C2 seat which was usable to eject at zero height, but still at an airspeed above 100 knots.

And then as did all the European operators changed to martin Baker GQ-7A

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cfrag

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On 11/22/2024 at 4:05 PM, gulredrel said:

Wasn't there an early version with downward firing ejection seat? Whose brilliant idea was this?

Oh, come on! Nobody who ejected that way ever complained!

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Bremspropeller

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On 11/24/2024 at 9:58 PM, IvanK said:

And then as did all the European operators changed to martin Baker GQ-7A

Not all of them - the Italians and Germans for sure. The Danes also converted to MB.

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wD703.htm

Some hand-me-down jets - e.g. HAF and TuAF jets formerly operated by ze Germans - did also have the MB seat (and J1K engine). See examples:

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wH153.htm HAF Jet

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wT164.htm TuAF Jet

I'd have to check if all of the HAF and TuAF jets were converted to MB.

 

The Dutch and Belgians, in contrast, never switched their C2 seats for the MB. Neither did the Canadians (mostly ops'ing in Germany) or the Norwegians.

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wK8273.htm RNLAF Jets (incl TF)

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wFX93.htm BAF

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wN785.htm RNoAF

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wN626.htm

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wC862C.htm RCAF

Spain prolly also never switched, giving their jets away during the time when the switch most probably would have happened (early 70s).

 

In Asia, Japan stayed with the C2, while RoCAF later swtched to MB. Probably because of the influx of hand-me-downs, but don't quote me on that.

 

 

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VZ_342

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On 11/22/2024 at 7:05 AM, gulredrel said:

Wasn't there an early version with downward firing ejection seat? Whose brilliant idea was this?

Half the aircrew of a B-52 still goes "down and out"....

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