DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Please post screen shot of new A-G radar grayscale option in 2.9.11.4686 My A_G radar on stbd(right) MFD is legacy green-amber. Thank you.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Yes that's correct as-is. This update doesn't magically change how a CRT screen works. 1 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
ED Team Solution BIGNEWY Posted January 8 ED Team Solution Posted January 8 Grey scale bar can be seen at the top, its more noticeable when you first swtich to A/G Map mode. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 Silly me. Its just a calibration gradient. Here I was thinking that the MFD can now display grayscale radar and high contrast IR from ATFLIR. Well life is full of disappointments. 1
rob10 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said: Silly me. Its just a calibration gradient. Here I was thinking that the MFD can now display grayscale radar and high contrast IR from ATFLIR. Well life is full of disappointments. Well I'm glad you asked question because while I knew it was supposed to be gradients of green still, I didn't realize what was actually added and what it was for! Edited January 9 by rob10 1
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 I am not on ramp at USMC MAG, but I would think that in past three decades that USMC/Navy would update their Charlie Hornets to full color or B/W LCD/LED displays on all three screens. I dislike ED's implementation of color screen in DCS: F/A-18C. Its limited to bottom, it is hard to read during day time. Its too much of PIA to zoom into it for detailed view, while in flight. The green amber I/R vew of ATFLIR has marginal contrast. Kind of wish our I/R view had quality and resolution from a competing combat simulation product. Starts with A, ends with A, and RM in middle. I am not a user of that product, but YT videos look impressive. I made a decision not to install free F/A-18E mod, as the FM is still C.
ED Team NineLine Posted January 9 ED Team Posted January 9 11 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said: I dislike ED's implementation of color screen in DCS: F/A-18C Hi Dmitri, I am sorry you do not like what it looks like in the real world for a US 2005 Legacy F/A-18C, of which we are trying to model. Arma is not a simulation as I understand it, and can play a little faster and looser with how they want it to look. If you have detailed real-world evidence that it should be different I would be happy to take a look, if this is just a preference thing I cannot do a lot for that. Thanks. 4 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 13 hours ago, NineLine said: Hi Dmitri, I am sorry you do not like what it looks like in the real world for a US 2005 Legacy F/A-18C, of which we are trying to model. Arma is not a simulation as I understand it, and can play a little faster and looser with how they want it to look. If you have detailed real-world evidence that it should be different I would be happy to take a look, if this is just a preference thing I cannot do a lot for that. Thanks. Well , when I place FLIR on center bottom MFD, set it in FLIR mode, and crank the contrast , the B/W picure loolks allright. Though small. I kind of wish that F/A-18 had pop up MFD implementation found in A-10CII and RAZBAM's AV-8B NA MFD export. Where zoomed vew of MFD is shown and content is far easiir to resolve. Yes its not real, it augments real. There are users, myself amongst them, that don't use VR display. I don't even have TrackIR.
Foka Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Arma is just a shooter with a little bit of immersion. It is no comparison to DCS in any way. And I have been and still am playing Arma since the first Operation Flashpoint. 1
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Foka said: Arma is just a shooter with a little bit of immersion. It is no comparison to DCS in any way. And I have been and still am playing Arma since the first Operation Flashpoint. I never played it. Going from YT videos, IR realtime imagery looks amazing. I can see people walking. Detail is crisp. Looks like modern IR hunting scopes imagery.
rob10 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, DmitriKozlowsky said: I never played it. Going from YT videos, IR realtime imagery looks amazing. I can see people walking. Detail is crisp. Looks like modern IR hunting scopes imagery. A hunting scope that probably looking 500 or maybe 1,000 feet away. Versus a pod that's 10-30,000 feet above PLUS 20-30 nm away? Might be a rational reason for the difference. And realize the tech being simulated in ED is in most cases pushing 20 years old. Things have come a long ways in that time. 1
Smashy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said: Well , when I place FLIR on center bottom MFD, set it in FLIR mode, and crank the contrast , the B/W picure loolks allright. Though small. I kind of wish that F/A-18 had pop up MFD implementation found in A-10CII and RAZBAM's AV-8B NA MFD export. Where zoomed vew of MFD is shown and content is far easiir to resolve. Yes its not real, it augments real. There are users, myself amongst them, that don't use VR display. I don't even have TrackIR. Can you setup a snap view to max zoom to the desired MFD so it fills the entire screen? Might be something to consider. 1
MAXsenna Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Well , when I place FLIR on center bottom MFD, set it in FLIR mode, and crank the contrast , the B/W picure loolks allright. Though small. I kind of wish that F/A-18 had pop up MFD implementation found in A-10CII and RAZBAM's AV-8B NA MFD export. Where zoomed vew of MFD is shown and content is far easiir to resolve. Yes its not real, it augments real. There are users, myself amongst them, that don't use VR display. I don't even have TrackIR.Have you considered exporting to a second display? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 19 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Have you considered exporting to a second display? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Kills my FPS. I have 28" 2560X1440 @144Hz as panel dedicated to to DCS. Options set to single screen. I really like RAZBAM's MFD export to overlay approach, as implemented in AV-8B and Mirage 2000C. This is something I would like to be DCS wide.
MAXsenna Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Kills my FPS. I have 28" 2560X1440 @144Hz as panel dedicated to to DCS. Options set to single screen. I really like RAZBAM's MFD export to overlay approach, as implemented in AV-8B and Mirage 2000C. This is something I would like to be DCS wide.I see! I have a 30" 2560x1600, and a second 24" 1920x1200 and it doesn't affect my FPS at all.In any case. You don't need a second screen. You can export anywhere. All the MFDs in any module can be exported anywhere on your main screen. I do agree Razbam's solution is very neat. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
=Mac= Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I have Winwing's three color MFDs. The left and right in the Hornet are green. The AMPCD is grey. As for zooming in, yes, in the 2D DCS screen, I have a rotator switch that lets me zoom in and out as I want. But, not realistic. Often, I'll cheat and use the 2D screen and zoom in on the AMPCD. But, as with the real life Legacy Hornet, the AMPCD is just at my knees and I can't zoom my real eyes. 1 The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail...
jaylw314 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/9/2025 at 12:04 AM, DmitriKozlowsky said: I am not on ramp at USMC MAG, but I would think that in past three decades that USMC/Navy would update their Charlie Hornets to full color or B/W LCD/LED displays on all three screens. I dislike ED's implementation of color screen in DCS: F/A-18C. Its limited to bottom, it is hard to read during day time. Its too much of PIA to zoom into it for detailed view, while in flight. The green amber I/R vew of ATFLIR has marginal contrast. Kind of wish our I/R view had quality and resolution from a competing combat simulation product. Starts with A, ends with A, and RM in middle. I am not a user of that product, but YT videos look impressive. I made a decision not to install free F/A-18E mod, as the FM is still C. IIRC the DDI's in the Charlie ARE color displays, they're a weird combination of 3 vector displays (red, green, yellow) with a raster display (green) all packed in one CRT tube. Seems like pretty bleeding-edge stuff for the '80's. Anyone who's played vector graphics arcade games knows how bright and legible text can be compared to the scanned raster displays of the day. It's really only been in the last 10-15 years that LED/LCD can compete, and that's far past the age of the our Charlie Hornet's development.
amalahama Posted January 17 Posted January 17 What the AG radar need is a realistic implementation of a 1 bar scan including antenna limits, not a colour scale stick on the screen
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