It's gotten quiet in DCS

[Bucic]

Looking at the entire Q4 2004 and Q1 2025 I must say things got really slow with DCS development. If not for The 5 (personal significance) and The Fog (the true Core) I don't really see much more making into 'this year in review.' To be honest it's completely the opposite from what I thought would happen after the Open Beta/Stable unification  

ATC and [Suspension], where art thou?

[BIGNEWY]

Did you stop reading our change logs? 

We have been busy. 

[sirrah]

22 minutes ago, Bucic said:

Looking at the entire Q4 2004 and Q1 2025 I must say things got really slow with DCS development. If not for The 5 (personal significance) and The Fog (the true Core) I don't really see much more making into 'this year in review.' To be honest it's completely the opposite from what I thought would happen after the Open Beta/Stable unification  

ATC and [Suspension], where art thou?

Don't worry mate:

Fulda Gap incoming tomorrow?  (I know, wishfull thinking )

DCS DC system including ATC overhaul in about 2 weeks

[Bucic]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

Did you stop reading our change logs? 

We have been busy. 

I might have dropped the ball a bit recently but for a good cause But I'm trying to stay on top of things as far as DCS goes. My impression is simply that vast majority of deliverables in the last ~6 months were module-specific, not Core-specific.

[BIGNEWY]

19 minutes ago, Bucic said:

I might have dropped the ball a bit recently but for a good cause But I'm trying to stay on top of things as far as DCS goes. My impression is simply that vast majority of deliverables in the last ~6 months were module-specific, not Core-specific.

Then you are incorrect, we have change logs showing all of the core work we have done in the last 6 months. 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/

The below core changes are just from the last major update 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/release/2.9.14.8222/

DCS Core

• 3D models. Fixed recoil effect on BTR 80/82.
• 3D models. Fixed seasonal textures for SA-10 (S-300) site.
• 3D models. Fixed visibility of some model elements through dust for most ground units.
• 3D models. Fixed missing collision model for the Buk C2 SAM.
• Added liveries for some Egyptian aviation
• AI aircraft. Tuning of the AI helicopters attack patterns for better use of standoff capabilities
• AI aircraft. AH-64s spin 360 degrees at the airfield in the presence of wind - fixed
• AI aircraft. Deck operations. When starting from six-pack with a wingman, crew can direct a player into a dead end - fixed
• AI aircraft. F/A-18C will now not turn off its radar if it is locked onto by an enemy aircraft
• AI aircraft. F-117 cannot reach service ceiling - fixed
• AI aircraft. Fixed issues with helicopter landing on uneven surfaces
• AI aircraft. Flight of four ship Tu-22M3 can't climb to assigned altitude - fixed
• AI aircraft. IL-76MD weight corrected
• AI aircraft. Incorrect wingman trajectory for Orbit task in line abreast formation - fixed
• AI aircraft. MiG-25PD countermeasures dispensers are removed 
• AI aircraft. MiG-29 uses speedbrake and clips runway on landing - fixed
• AI aircraft. The aerobatics task will be performed every time the aerobatics start point is passed.
• AI aircraft. When assigned the Orbit task to helicopters, they fly to nowhere - fixed
• AI aircraft. Wingman crosses the leader's trajectory twice on left turn in line abreast formation - fixed
• AI aircraft. Wingmen do not follow the leader when performing a task Orbit - fixed
• AI aircraft. TF-51D. Fixed bug on rudder on all liveries
• AI aircraft. B-52 loadout and onboard sensor changes. Added TGP section in loadout with Litening option for TGP. Added more currently available in DCS world laser bombs in loadout. (B-52 loadout missing or not propper modeled. - Aircraft AI Bugs (Non-Combined Arms) - ED Forums)
• AI aircraft. APK-9 datalink pod added for Su-24M for Kh-59 usage
• AI aircraft. New option “Allow Formation Swap Side”  - When enabled this allows tactical formation turns, and disabled the AI will follow regular turn behaviour. This option will be off by default in missions created before this update, and enabled by default in new missions. The mission maker can decide which option suits the scenario.
• AI aircraft. Added new “Anchored” orbit for tankers. This allows custom leg length and width for orbit.
• AI ground. HY-2 Silkworm anti ship missile. The calculation of the target visibility range to the horizon has been corrected. The missile will be launched at a greater range if it is located on a hill.
• AI ground. Added "gray smoke" effect when unit HP reaches 50-25% (25-0% range has "black smoke").
• AI ground. Target lock is not reset when quickly moving the crosshair IR SAM to another target - fixed.
• AI ground. Shoot and Scoot - No Scoot if task pushed after another fire at point - fixed.
• AI ground. The size of the MG cartridges on pickups has been reduced.
• AI ground. Fixed firing effect for BMP-3.
• AI ground. IR SAM target acquisition timer and sound delay - fixed.
• AI ground. Improved DM of Gun 15cm SK C/28 Naval in Bunker (possible to destroy by hitting the gun.).
• AI ground. Several vehicles' model aiming points were shifted up by 1.7m. Aim points used by AI do determine if they can attack a vehicle and hit it.
• AI ground. Added RPN S-300 to ARM recognition list for symbology fix
• AI sea. Fixed missing missile model on missile launcher at Oliver Perry.
• AI sea. Missing of a 3D model of the Bazalt missile in the launch container and the early closing of the container lid of the cruiser Moskva - fixed.
• AI sea. Harpoon explodes in launcher La Combattante 2 - fixed.
• Briefing. Added QNH in hPa/mbar
• Core. Loading process adjusted which will help in sporadic situations when user may have experience longer mission load times and longer MP slot occupation response
• Core. Observer-side jettisoned bombs being left indefinitely alive in some cases - fixed.
• Core. Set AI Life trigger action used with sea platform causes DCS crash - fixed. 
• Debriefing. No bullet/shell counts in debriefing when A/C shooting - fixed.
• Encyclopedia. Added SA-5 (S-200) site.
• Encyclopedia. Added field artillery leFH 18/40.
• Encyclopedia. Added/updated info about Sidewinder AIM-9 missiles family in encyclopedia
• Graphics. HUD Symbology affected by engines heat blur effect  - fixed
• Graphics. Manual fog settings cause a black screen in some case - fixed (DCS Graphic Bug with Heatblur and Landing light in the F14A Zone 5 campaign Event 5 - General Bugs - ED Forums)
• Graphics. Helper gates size change feature fix for MT
• GUI. ESC menu does not work due to hidden active chat window -fixed (Esc key not working - Controller & Assignment Bugs - General - ED Forums)
• GUI. Dynamic spawn does not use normal default gun ammo type but uses first ammo type in the list instead - fixed
• GUI. Dynamic Spawn. FARP Dynamic Slots report occupied after a "blocked" spawn attempt - fixed (FARP Dynamic Slots report occupied after a "blocked" spawn attempt - Multiplayer Bugs - ED Forums)
• GUI. Score Window does not record kills in Multiplayer - fixed. (Score Window does not record in Multiplayer - Multiplayer Bugs - ED Forums)
• GUI. Zoomed-out F10 map cannot be zoomed-in using mouse scroll wheel in ascertain cases - fixed. (F10 Map Stuck on zoom out/Multiplayer - General Bugs - ED Forums)
• Historical mode. ZSU-57-2 added to 15 countries.
• Historical mode. Added field artillery leFH 18/40.
• ME. Better management of sound files. Saving the sound file when changing the trigger type to one that also uses the sound file.
• ME. Difference of helicopter and payload elements camouflage - fixed
• ME. Ships 'All' category cannot be selected - fixed (Change Ship Category in ME - Mission Editor Bugs - ED Forums)
• ME. Unit selection in Unit List is bugged when group is HIDDEN ON MAP - fixed ("Set Invisible" command does not work in multiplayer - Multiplayer Bugs - ED Forums)
• ME. More icons added to the Draw Tool
• ME. Copying helicopter with hardpoints disabled, then changing it to another helicopter type results in being unable to rearm - fixed.
• MP. AI Task Push does not work for multiplayer client - fixed ("Set Invisible" command does not work in multiplayer - Multiplayer Bugs - ED Forums)
• MP. Scenery Destruction Zone is not synced for clients on dedicated server - fixed (Object Destruction Zone (works on host, but does not work on dedicated server) - Multiplayer Bugs - ED Forums)
• Scripting API. net.lua2json(t): Crashes game if t contains cycles (SEGFAULT) - fixed (net.lua2json(t): Crashes game if t contains cycles (SEGFAULT) - General Bugs - ED Forums)
• Scripting API. Smoke markers generate a ghost icon of  ZIL-135 P1 neutral unit - fixed (Smoke markers generate a ghost ZIL-135 P1 neutral unit - Ground AI Bugs (Non-Combined Arms) - ED Forums)
• Scripting API. Static PAD Single gives wrong external category (Ship) - fixed (Static PAD Single gives wrong external category (Ship) - Object Bugs - ED Forums)
• Scripting API. net.lua2json : array[0] - index 0 incompatibility - fixed (net.lua2json : another bug detected (array[0] - index 0 incompatibility) - General Bugs - ED Forums)
• Su-25T. IR Jammer. IR jammer suppresses missiles from all directions. Fixed. Jammer will suppress missiles only in the tail sector.
• Weapons. AGM-45A Shrike fins instantly snap to actuated position - added actuator model
• Weapons. AIM-120. Added late arming of the missile fuse at 150 meters before the target. This will avoid detonation on the flight path when flying close to another aircraft or missile. This only works when the range to the target is known.
• Weapons. AIM-120. Implemented 30 degree conical side directional pattern of proximity fuse sensor - “Wagon Wheel”
• Weapons. BetAB-500ShP. Animations corrected
• Weapons. BGM-109 start sequence settings updated. Booster trail updated
• Weapons. Corrected flight dynamics and motor of SAM Hawk MIM-23 missile
• Weapons. Corrected some missile engine smoke effects. Missile turbojet engine smoke effect updated.
• Weapons. Eliminated glossy finishing of Kh-25 missile skin
• Weapons. Illuminating bombs now can be locked as target by IR missiles
• Weapons. Improved synchronization of the time of missile detonation for clients in MP
• Weapons. Kh-25MPU missile retargeting to other target that placed quite far from primary one - fixed
• Weapons. Kh-58 missile aiming error for moving target. Missiles always arrive at the stern of the ship. Fixed.
• Weapons. Fixed an issue with shell disappearing when firing at long range.
• Weapons. MIM-72G Chaparral. Renew the model of the motor block. Added variable smoke opacity. Added more gain in the guidance loop.
• Weapons. R-24 missile overhaul. Updated aerodynamics, motor, warhead, guidance
• Weapons. RGM-84 booster trail updated
• Weapons. S-5 rocket rotation animation is missing under some circumstances - fixed
• Weapons. SA-13 and SA-9 missiles. Reduced arming time from 5 sec to 2 sec after launch
• Weapons. Kh-22 antiship missile. Corrected aerodynamics data, increased drag
• CTD. Dedicated server crash when changing missions with webgui - fixed

 

[TheFreshPrince]

Bug fixes are very important, but at same time you want something new to experience. Otherwise it's getting rather boring doing the same thing over and over again. That has been missing for some time now. I think it's what OP wanted to say. Also the expectations are high with lots of stuff promised to come. 

[BIGNEWY]

49 minutes ago, TheFreshPrince said:

Bug fixes are very important, but at same time you want something new to experience. Otherwise it's getting rather boring doing the same thing over and over again. That has been missing for some time now. I think it's what OP wanted to say. Also the expectations are high with lots of stuff promised to come. 

I think people have short memories sometimes, we have updated DCS core for multithreading which was a huge task, added VOIP, improved clouds, there are more to list, but you get the point. We deliver new items when they are ready, we will be sharing a new long await core feature soon. The reality is new features take time, design, development, testing, guides, marketing ect. 

I think we live in a world where people want instant gratification, and that isn't the reality of the situation. And of course we have glass half empty, glass half full personalities  

 

[KAKTYC_11]

1 час назад, BIGNEWY сказал:

 We deliver new items when they are ready, we will be sharing a new long await core feature soon. The reality is new features take time, design, development, testing, guides, marketing

 

Im sure you can delete from this production chain - marketing , with no worries !

[Beirut]

9 hours ago, sirrah said:

Don't worry mate:

Fulda Gap incoming tomorrow?  (I know, wishfull thinking )

 

Yes! What you said. 

[Bucic]

On 4/10/2025 at 6:06 PM, BIGNEWY said:

I think people have short memories sometimes, we have updated DCS core for multithreading which was a huge task, added VOIP, improved clouds, there are more to list, but you get the point. We deliver new items when they are ready, we will be sharing a new long await core feature soon. The reality is new features take time, design, development, testing, guides, marketing ect. 

I think we live in a world where people want instant gratification, and that isn't the reality of the situation. And of course we have glass half empty, glass half full personalities  

 

I think you get it the other way around. My memory serves me quite well and I do appreciate the recent core achievements. It just so happens that very few of them were delivered in Q1 2025 I'm also noticing that updates now seem to have a monthly cadence.

[TheFreshPrince]

The German map coming this month will gladly bring new life into DCS, probably along with the dynamic campaign or whatever it is @BIGNEWY means with the "long await core feature". 

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, TheFreshPrince said:

The German map coming this month will gladly bring new life into DCS, probably along with the dynamic campaign or whatever it is @BIGNEWY means with the "long await core feature". 

The DTC is coming  

[Bucic]

18 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

The DTC is coming  

Had it been ATC I would start roasting this thread myself

 

19 minutes ago, TheFreshPrince said:

The German map coming this month will gladly bring new life into DCS, probably along with the dynamic campaign or whatever it is @BIGNEWY means with the "long await core feature". 

Ah, yes, that's a big one. It doesn't look like Ugra is willing to ditch the 90's RTS game color grading (y-e-l-l-o-w) but it does count as CORE feature in my books for at least two reasons. For one, it's finally not another patch of sand! Two, it DCS finally reaches a part of Central Europe. So yes, that is going to be a big one. I also noticed it uses something akin to normal maps (first seen in Iraqi map?) so it doesn't look like a plastic texture.

 

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I always go with 'no news is good news' especially in the wake of the theatrics that lead up to the F-4 and F-15 the two previous years.

Besides, 2024 didn't heat up until May, in that regard. Back end improvements don't receive fanfare like a module release does.

Edited Tuesday at 05:47 PM by MiG21bisFishbedL

[NineLine]

Quiet? Why do I have this migraine then?

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

4 hours ago, NineLine said:

Quiet? Why do I have this migraine then?

You have stared into oblivion.

It has stared back.

[Dangerzone]

7 hours ago, TheFreshPrince said:

The German map coming this month will gladly bring new life into DCS, probably along with the dynamic campaign or whatever it is @BIGNEWY means with the "long await core feature". 

I've been asleep for a few months, and missed it. Where's the news about the German map coming this month please!??! 

[MAXsenna]

I've been asleep for a few months, and missed it. Where's the news about the German map coming this month please!??! 

Was in the Newsletter I believe.

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk

[Rudel_chw]

On 4/14/2025 at 11:27 AM, Bucic said:

I'm also noticing that updates now seem to have a monthly cadence.

 

I like the monthly updates, for me it is much better than having them more frequently as I enjoy stability the most.

[Bucic]

12 hours ago, NineLine said:

Quiet? Why do I have this migraine then?

There's probably a party we've only seen once before

Spoiler

Ace Ventura: When nature calls - Leaving monastery - YouTube -

fdgg

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:08 AM by Bucic