whataboutbob71 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 When will there be updates made to the CH-47? Last time Ive seen any changes was last year in December. 3
sunwukong Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Think it’s incoming. Seen something on YouTube :)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
av8orDave Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Had the same thought. Another month goes by with no updates to the CH-47.
-skarden- Posted April 17 Posted April 17 I can't understand why they can't at least release some quality of life updates for it if nothing else. It's definitely a little frustrating that it's been so long between updates, I know they're still working on it but it feels like it's very low on their priority list at this point. 4 1 AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Team T-Force Delta RGB 64GB 6000MHz CL38 DDR5, Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX Ice Motherboard Pimax Cystal Light, Winwing Orion 2 w/ F-16EX, Winwing Super Libra w/F18 stick, Super Taurus, Virpil TCS Plus Collective + Constellation ALPHA [L], Combat & Take off Panels, StreamDeck XL, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals
LuseKofte Posted April 17 Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, -skarden- said: I can't understand why they can't at least release some quality of life updates for it if nothing else. It's definitely a little frustrating that it's been so long between updates, I know they're still working on it but it feels like it's very low on their priority list at this point. They got a lot of modules older than this to work on. I don’t expect this to be finished for a while. They probably need to get done something with game engine in order to get things right , I don’t know, but at some point this bird will be flyable 2
inexus Posted April 17 Posted April 17 (edited) They got our money for the modules and maps, why be in a hurry to deliver updates? No updates for the helo or the ED maps this patch today either... business as usual guys. Sometimes wondering if ED thinks we are giving them a hard time or not but honestly this constant no transparency and straight up delays without any explanations apart from 'we are working on it' does not help the customers as it tells us nothing and experience tells us the same story that nothing has changed. The other explanation is 'it's EA' so we can't make any expectations and it was our own choice to wait for some years for a finished product. Edited April 17 by inexus 5 13900@5.8Ghz, Asus TUF 4090 OC, 64GB@6400mhz DDR5, 4K, TrackIR 5, Tobii, Virpil CM2, CM3 CH-47F | OH-58D | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | A-10C | A-10C II | AV-8B | AH-64D | MI-24P | MI-8 | BS 2 | UH-1H | Mosquito | BF 109 | Spitfire | P-47D | CA | SC | WWII AP
Hotdognz Posted April 18 Posted April 18 While it's flyable now it's usage is limited to what 3rd party scripts can get it to do logiticly wise, but.The frustrating slow updates to the Chinook are really concerning, nearly 4 months between new feature updates and not bug fixes which I don't consider updates.I'm at this point now not purchasing anymore ED made EA modules and will stick to 3rd party ones only.I will purchase ED ones at a much later time in their long development cyclesSent from my TB350FU using Tapatalk 8
Wood Posted May 7 Posted May 7 (edited) On 4/17/2025 at 3:51 PM, LuseKofte said: They got a lot of modules older than this to work on. I don’t expect this to be finished for a while. They probably need to get done something with game engine in order to get things right , I don’t know, but at some point this bird will be flyable 100% agree. Here's an is an idea. Don't release the damn thing if you have no intention on fixing it. On 4/17/2025 at 8:51 PM, Hotdognz said: The frustrating slow updates to the Chinook are really concerning, nearly 4 months between new feature updates and not bug fixes which I don't consider updates. I'm at this point now not purchasing anymore ED made EA modules and will stick to 3rd party ones only. Absolutely, ED modules are simply not worth the headache. Edited May 8 by Wood 1 Cheers Wood Windows 10, Intel i7-6700 CPU @3.40GHz, 32GB ram , GTX 4060Ti
LuseKofte Posted May 8 Posted May 8 23 hours ago, Wood said: 100% agree. Here's an is an idea. Don't release the damn thing if you have no intention on fixing it. You will find a game with very few modules if that was the case. I am personally very happy to have it. So don’t demand something on too many people’s behalf. Anyway such things like ADF witch work all over the board I can’t understand why take this long. FM need tuning. Only difference in weight I so far noticed is engines more easy go on red. I know what you mean and agree But I find it entertaining to fly when I need a brake from MI 8 If you concentrate it can be flown in a believable way. It is way better than msfs version, thanks god but bring along a strong sense of not being finished. In real life it would not be considered operational
Wood Posted May 9 Posted May 9 3 hours ago, LuseKofte said: You will find a game with very few modules if that was the case. I am personally very happy to have it. So don’t demand something on too many people’s behalf. Anyway such things like ADF witch work all over the board I can’t understand why take this long. FM need tuning. Only difference in weight I so far noticed is engines more easy go on red. I know what you mean and agree But I find it entertaining to fly when I need a brake from MI 8 If you concentrate it can be flown in a believable way. It is way better than msfs version, thanks god but bring along a strong sense of not being finished. In real life it would not be considered operational I get what your saying and I'm glad your happy with it. That's awesome. I've had this thing for close to 3 months and have not flown it simply because its a slide show (4fps)every time I try to, when every other module I own will give 50-60 fps with the exception of the Apache. So yes In my own opinion it was not ready. However, I'm sure once the performance issues are fixed where everyone who purchased it can fly it as it was meant to. Cheers Wood Windows 10, Intel i7-6700 CPU @3.40GHz, 32GB ram , GTX 4060Ti
LuseKofte Posted May 9 Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Wood said: it simply because its a slide show Yeah and it take its good time loading in multiplayer. 3 hours ago, Wood said: and I'm glad your happy with it That is a stretch. I am glad it is available. And like you I stayed away from it and only now and then flown it. What I meant was Chinook is a young module. It’s far older ones not complete 1
minar Posted May 10 Posted May 10 On 5/8/2025 at 2:34 PM, LuseKofte said: You will find a game with very few modules if that was the case. I can name at least one and its in beta and already it has features that surpass many higher budget offerings. It even has animated loaded cargo and troops. Its called Helicopter Gunship DEX and its a one man show.
LuseKofte Posted May 11 Posted May 11 12 hours ago, minar said: I can name at least one and its in beta and already it has features that surpass many higher budget offerings. It even has animated loaded cargo and troops. Its called Helicopter Gunship DEX and its a one man show. I googled it. If there where more time on my hands I would look into that game
Rogue Trooper Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Come on now, It is time for an update of this Superb Helicopter. 2 HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
Hotdognz Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Well we got 2 added updates in this patch the rest were fixes, I wouldnt call the added features anything special though and really don't add to what the module is designed to do. Now they can at least tell us they are adding new features DCS: CH-47F by Eagle Dynamics Fixed: Engine behaviour in cold conditions Fixed: Internal FLIR textures Fixed: Reduced IR emission Fixed: Parked position of rotors Added: Liveries for Spain, Iran, South Korea and Royal Canadian Air Force Added: Collective position added to the Controls indicator 1
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LuseKofte Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Well now I am getting a little pissed off an inpatient. Do the developers really think this product is in such state that it can be left as is? The only thing close to correctly simulated is the pixels in my opinion. Do ED really expect this kind of patience from its customers. Do they expect any trust for the next pre purchase? I simply ask will any of their product reach a finished state? 2
ThorBrasil Posted May 23 Posted May 23 21 minutes ago, LuseKofte said: Well now I am getting a little pissed off an inpatient. Do the developers really think this product is in such state that it can be left as is? The only thing close to correctly simulated is the pixels in my opinion. Do ED really expect this kind of patience from its customers. Do they expect any trust for the next pre purchase? I simply ask will any of their product reach a finished state? I haven't flown the CH-47 since its launch until the physics/systems are all implemented. I don't like how it behaves in flight so I put it aside until the systems are complete. I bought the MiG-29A and hope I won't regret it. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/356228-afcs-dafcs-dash-lct-explained-below/ |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Hotdognz Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) I have been tracking the CH47 as my last purchase of a ED module since Nov 2024, I did this to see how development went after the big updates to it in October 2024, I considered the Apache to have a good dev cycle and thought this might too as I believed ED to have an experienced helo team, I was using this tracking to figure out if I would buy the MIG 29A in EA, based on the below list of added features since October 2024, its slowed to a crawl in the dev cycle, so I decided to hold of the MIG 29A My tracking was for added features not fixes to existing added features and I was looking for value added to make it fun to use in missions for its intended purpose of logistic, as you can see in 2025 we have had 2 added features and still have no ED added logistics features. 2024 October 30 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Added. Longitudinal Cyclic Trim (LCT) functionality in automatic and manual modes. LCT reduces fuselage nose down attitude as speed increases by tilting the rotors according to airspeed between 60 and 150 knots. This allows the fuselage to remain level for cargo and troops. Added. Differential Air Speed Hold (DASH) functionality (WIP). As you increase speed, the DASH, (a long tube in the flight controls with an actuator on each end) will increase in length. If you move the cyclic back to center, the aircraft will still maintain airspeed. This allows you to keep the cyclic in a more natural, centered position when flying at higher airspeeds. Added. ARC-201D and ARC-220 radios (WIP). Improvements to many MFD and CDU pages. Continue working on synchronization (WIP). November 2 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing November 5 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing December 5 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Improved. Synchronization of MFD screens and buttons. Implemented loading, display and addition of Fix Points to the flight plan Implemented display of FPP based on airfields/navaids with corresponding symbols December 12 CH47 - Nothing December 24 CH-47 added items not fixes Added. Trimmer options Added. Trimming with HAT on stick Added. Windshield wipers Improved. DASH tweaks Improved. Crew animation become faster when switching seats Improved. Further work on CDU pages 2025 January 21 - Major update CH47 - Nothing February 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing February 20 - Major update CH47 - Nothing March 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing March 20 - Major update March 26 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing April 18 - Major update CH47 - Nothing April 22 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing April 24 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing May 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing May 22 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Added: Liveries for Spain, Iran, South Korea and Royal Canadian Air Force Added: Collective position added to the Controls indicator Edited May 24 by Hotdognz 5 3
av8orDave Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Yeah, I think the CH-47 experience is the one that finally put me out of the pre-purchase world. I haven’t bought the MiG-29 and won’t until it is launched and shown to be in some basic functional state, and until we can see that the pace of updates / development is reasonable. 4
LuseKofte Posted May 24 Posted May 24 9 hours ago, Hotdognz said: Apache to have a good dev cycle I agree on this, looking away from impatient AH 64 jockeys Apache has a healthy progress. But I suspect CH 47 is shelved. They have other priorities , and if that is true I look at this as a very thin barrier towards a scam 3
Guille H. Mono Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/24/2025 at 2:15 AM, Hotdognz said: I have been tracking the CH47 as my last purchase of a ED module since Nov 2024, I did this to see how development went after the big updates to it in October 2024, I considered the Apache to have a good dev cycle and thought this might too as I believed ED to have an experienced helo team, I was using this tracking to figure out if I would buy the MIG 29A in EA, based on the below list of added features since October 2024, its slowed to a crawl in the dev cycle, so I decided to hold of the MIG 29A My tracking was for added features not fixes to existing added features and I was looking for value added to make it fun to use in missions for its intended purpose of logistic, as you can see in 2025 we have had 2 added features and still have no ED added logistics features. 2024 October 30 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Added. Longitudinal Cyclic Trim (LCT) functionality in automatic and manual modes. LCT reduces fuselage nose down attitude as speed increases by tilting the rotors according to airspeed between 60 and 150 knots. This allows the fuselage to remain level for cargo and troops. Added. Differential Air Speed Hold (DASH) functionality (WIP). As you increase speed, the DASH, (a long tube in the flight controls with an actuator on each end) will increase in length. If you move the cyclic back to center, the aircraft will still maintain airspeed. This allows you to keep the cyclic in a more natural, centered position when flying at higher airspeeds. Added. ARC-201D and ARC-220 radios (WIP). Improvements to many MFD and CDU pages. Continue working on synchronization (WIP). November 2 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing November 5 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing December 5 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Improved. Synchronization of MFD screens and buttons. Implemented loading, display and addition of Fix Points to the flight plan Implemented display of FPP based on airfields/navaids with corresponding symbols December 12 CH47 - Nothing December 24 CH-47 added items not fixes Added. Trimmer options Added. Trimming with HAT on stick Added. Windshield wipers Improved. DASH tweaks Improved. Crew animation become faster when switching seats Improved. Further work on CDU pages 2025 January 21 - Major update CH47 - Nothing February 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing February 20 - Major update CH47 - Nothing March 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing March 20 - Major update March 26 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing April 18 - Major update CH47 - Nothing April 22 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing April 24 - Hotfix CH47 - Nothing May 6 - Campaign Fixes only CH47 - Nothing May 22 - Major update CH-47 added items not fixes Added: Liveries for Spain, Iran, South Korea and Royal Canadian Air Force Added: Collective position added to the Controls indicator It's like we are doing charity here. But the kind of unefficient charity that helps no one, fixes nothing and only aggravates self destructing behaviours. ED has dropped out of the list of companies I would trust to buy Early Access. Edited May 26 by Guille H. Mono 1
admiki Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On one hand, we need ED to keep kicking tires so we can enjoy DCS. On the other hand, they are starting to annoy a number of people. After CH-47 planned release fiasco and Afghanistan map I decided to hold on any future purchase of ED merchandise. Even though Mig-29 was and is my dream airplane, I am not buying it until it actually shows and is in decent state. And from what I can hear around, a lot of people feels the same. It has already been said and doing it once more won't matter one iota, but ED should start listening to its customers. 2
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 26 ED Team Posted May 26 Last patch we had DCS: CH-47F by Eagle Dynamics Fixed: Engine behaviour in cold conditions Fixed: Internal FLIR textures Fixed: Reduced IR emission Fixed: Parked position of rotors Added: Liveries for Spain, Iran, South Korea and Royal Canadian Air Force Added: Collective position added to the Controls indicator More updates are coming they just did not make it into this last patch. There is no point adding work that is not ready for the public builds yet or need more testing. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Rudel_chw Posted May 26 Posted May 26 35 minutes ago, admiki said: Even though Mig-29 was and is my dream airplane, I am not buying it until it actually shows and is in decent state. And from what I can hear around, a lot of people feels the same. I don't really know if "a lot", but my DCS spending habits have certainly changed since the Razbam fiasco, I used to purchase almost every new item that came to the store, but now it is like this: on the second semester of last year I only purchased two items: FC 2024 and the F-5 remastered, just because its pricing wouldn't last, but it was just a fifth of what I usually spend, and so far this year I've only refunded the F-15E and used those funds to purchase the Germany map, for a total balance of US$ 0 this year so far. The Mig-29 was tempting, but having its shapes and textures encrypted made it a no-go for me, its a sad situation for me as DCS used to be my main hobby. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
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