A-10 Thunderbolt Air Show

[REL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzhqH0ntr8

 

Fairly maneuverable ha guys ???

 

Enjoy !!

[element1108]

I love the "no music" option by the author. Natural sounds!

[NotiA10]

great movie ! the hog is very very agile especially if the plane has been prepared for airshows like in this video: e.g 10% fuel, no pylons, no payload, no 30mm rounds, etc.

 

thanks for posting - rep inbound,

 

cheers,

 

NotiA10

[Feuerfalke]

I love the "no music" option by the author. Natural sounds!

 

Indeed ! ;)

 

Nice movie - thanks for sharing.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Cool! Thanks :)

[Mad Dog 7.62]

Cool vid, thanks for posting it. In a couple weeks I will be at Hawgsmoke, should hopefully have some nice pics and vids to share.

[galagamo]

It really is a magnificent machine.

[thisisentchris87]

Almost looked like it was from DCS in a few scenes.

 

As much as I like watching it fly around, I need explosions.

[Esac_mirmidon]

Call Kvochor and ask him what is an air show .XD

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Makes the F-16 look tiny!

[Deadman]

Great video thanks for sharing!!:thumbup:

[Blaze]

great movie ! the hog is very very agile especially if the plane has been prepared for airshows like in this video: e.g 10% fuel, no pylons, no payload, no 30mm rounds, etc.

 

thanks for posting - rep inbound,

 

cheers,

 

NotiA10

Definitely! Optimum performance is obtained when fuel load is 3,500 pounds, and each demonstration uses approximately 1,000 pounds of fuel.

[rweaves6]

Great vid! Thanks.

 

Off topic but I have been meaning to ask, I noticed he landed with air brakes open. I see this often and was curious what the sop is for this. Is the Hog to always land with them open?

Why not get desired speed and descent, flaps full, using the brakes as needed?

 

Does the brake add lift, or is it not possible to hold speed in descent?

 

Sorry if this is dumb question, never understood this.

Edited September 27, 2010 by rweaves6
Forgot to add something

[Ninefingers]

Call Kvochor and ask him what is an air show .XD

 

:smilewink:

 

I think that this is a boring display... :music_whistling:

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Great vid! Thanks.

 

Off topic but I have been meaning to ask, I noticed he landed with air brakes open. I see this often and was curious what the sop is for this. Is the Hog to always land with them open?

Why not get desired speed and descent, flaps full, using the brakes as needed?

 

Sorry if this is dumb question, never understood this.

 

To achieve better speed stability on approach and a shorter ground run I guess?

 

According to the A-10A manual, it indicates that 40% speed brakes should be used on approach/landing.

Edited September 27, 2010 by Flamin_Squirrel

[Avilator]

Great vid! Thanks.

 

Off topic but I have been meaning to ask, I noticed he landed with air brakes open. I see this often and was curious what the sop is for this. Is the Hog to always land with them open?

Why not get desired speed and descent, flaps full, using the brakes as needed?

 

Does the brake add lift, or is it not possible to hold speed in descent?

 

Sorry if this is dumb question, never understood this.

 

First off, no question is dumb. If it is intelligent, that is, and yours certainly fits the bill.:thumbup:

The engines take time to spool up and down. Idle to full power may take about 4-5 seconds.(In new engines, old ones take longer.) This is a LONG time if you find yourself low on short final over an obstacle.:joystick: However, the relationship between delay length and engine speed is not linear. That is, at about 75% core RPM, the time to full power falls markedly. The speedbrakes are extended to allow the engines to be run at about 75%-80% RPM (just a guess, but probably close) on final. If you need to go around, you can remove all the drag of the brakes in about 3 seconds. Combine this with the engines already putting out about 80% thrust, and it's easier and safer to go around. The alternative would be to run the engines at or near idle, and in that case, you would need to predict every power change by at least 4~8 seconds.

One more effect to keep in mind is that rapid throttle changes can cause a flameout. For example, being low on final realizing: ZOMG I NEED POWER NAO!!!!!! and slamming the throttle to the stop can result in a total loss of power, dignity, money, and possibly life. Of course newer engines with more sophisticated controls eliminate this problem. This is the case on the A-10, so you can probably slam the levers around without too much worry. However, that's bad karma and is best avoided.

Just my US$0.02

Edited September 27, 2010 by Avilator

[Laud]

Sounds like a valid point by Avilator. But not only when you need MORE power - When you need to decrease speed, just putting the throttle backwards lets the AC slow down quite slow. With brakes extended the response is well higher. I figured this when I was doing carrier-ops with the Su-33. I always do the carrier approaches with brake extended.

 

AND: F-15 and F-16 also use their airbrakes for landing. I guess for the same reasons.

[Avilator]

AND: F-15 and F-16 also use their airbrakes for landing. I guess for the same reasons.

That is correct as well. You usually don't see airliners with speedbrakes extended for the entrie approach because their usually large flaps provide drag.

[rweaves6]

Thanks guys for the help.:)

[Avilator]

No problem!:thumbup:

I always like to explain these things related to flying airplanes(as you may have gussed:music_whistling:).

[snacker]

Makes the F-16 look tiny!

Now, THIS is tiny but absolutelly cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKgKyoXPT_k

[Avilator]

All it's missing are the speed brakes.

[TKMR]

That's some great insight Avilator! That would never have occured to me, but now that you mention it, it really seems quite obvious.