DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012

[Erdem]

So another round of 15$ patches are incoming for A-10 and Ka-50?

[effte]

I'm fully aware of the mustangs service history :D.Not the point though,I'd prefer Korean/Nam era..Mustangs/109's etc etc been used in just about every sim known to man..

 

Korean era presumably means a simulation of an aircraft which saw combat in the Korean war.

 

You're not happy with a P-51 simulator.

 

And you know the service history of the P-51.

 

1+1+1 = 7. Q.E.D. :)

[ArtMan_NL]

Are there plans for the Red Baron's Fokker triplane? I like to see that implemented as well.

 

Anyway, it is nice to see a real successor of FSX. It seems that Micro$oft is lost too :pilotfly:

 

1 april joke? :megalol::cheer3nc:

[ralfidude]

No no, this is just the very first old school plane.

 

They are still releasing a modern fixed winged fighter, but I was hoping the announcement would have been made with the Mustang... Guess we still have to wait a while... Kinda like for Nevada.... Till summer.... :(

[effte]

Now, coffe consumed, I see two more things to have me excited:

 

1) Look at the crowds surrounding Il-2, Clogs from Dover, A2A's excellent FS series of products etc. Imagine getting 5%, or even 10%, of that crowd to try DCS in order to fly the P-51. They'll see the quality of the DCS series, possibly fly a bit online, see others flying the Warthog, Hokum and eventually F-1?. How many of those will end up buying additional DCS products? And that's a hard-won group. Normally, trying to win them over to anything post-1947 will make the propeller sceptics in this thread seem like easy pushovers in comparison. We do not need many percent of them to expand the DCS user base significantly.

 

2) ED: Make sure the P-51 comes with binos and the option of upgraded comms suite for compatibility with the A-10s and Ka-50s! There's room for a Becker somewhere. That option has been used out in the real world.

 

Why?

 

Performance-wise, the aircraft fits the bill for FAC, SAR, COIN etc even in a modern scenario. We're seeing turboprops in those roles today, but that's mainly due to other reasons such as maintenance. We can safely ignore most of those other reasons and have a blast adding Mustangs to our fictional engagements. After all, how likely is it to see Ka-50s and A-10s in the same mission? Not much more of a stretch to throw in a few revived P-51s, and the die-hards can just pretend it's a Super Tucano pilot they're hearing over the radio.

[Napa]

No no, this is just the very first old school plane.

 

They are still releasing a modern fixed winged fighter, but I was hoping the announcement would have been made with the Mustang... Guess we still have to wait a while... Kinda like for Nevada.... Till summer.... :(

 

Nevada certainly takes a long time. I don't mind, hopefully we'll see something completely different.

[yufighter]

Next DCS project, price 59.99 Euros

 

 

 

coming soon

[jp203000]

Next DCS project, price 59.99 Euros

 

 

 

coming soon

Wonderful!:pilotfly::pilotfly:

[weasel75]

I hope this next DCS project comes with a new input-device, the Thrustmaster HOTAS makes it feel sooooo unrealistic :D

[BIGNEWY]

Will not use it in a modern combat scenario, it would be wrong....

 

still Looking forward to flying her anyway :)

[tflash]

I suppose we need some upgrades to make the P-51D flyworthy in current highly regulated airspace. What about a Garmin GTN 750, a GTX 327 transponder and some nice UHF/VHF radio sets? A GSR 56 Satcom could complete it all! Not sure we'll manage to get an IDM though.

 

A FADEC for the engine would be super, and don't forget the P-51D is already completely "Fly-By-Wire", allthough it is more appropriate to say "Fly-By-Cable". :=)

[Frostie]

The DCS series is commited to recreating the most realistic simulation they deem possible, this means only recreating an aircraft where they possess absolute knowledge. I'm sure the P-51D will be in that bracket and hopefully something not yet experienced in IL-2 or even FSX.

 

How they turn this into a consumer simulator is still unclear, but what is required are obviously targets to shoot and bomb such as other AI WW2 planes and Panzers etc. If not then it becomes an elaborate testbed that only a few will really be interested in for longer than an hour.

With the right direction this will open up a wider spectrum to the DCS series not only in single player but multiplayer aspect also and hopefully expand the DCS community immeasurably. With future addons who knows how successful this branch off could be.

This can only be a good thing for the future of ED products.

[aaron886]

So much whining and complaining in this thread. If you don't like it, don't buy it... but quit whining like a pack of kids. It is what it is.

[csper]

Next DCS project, price 59.99 Euros

 

 

 

coming soon

:megalol::megalol:

[tflash]

So much whining and complaining in this thread. If you don't like it, don't buy it... but quit whining like a pack of kids. It is what it is.

 

Ok, but any seasoned salesman knows that when people start whining, they are in fact considering to buy! :=)

[empeck]

Ok, but any seasoned salesman knows that when people start whining, they are in fact considering to buy! :=)

 

Of course I'll buy it. Just to compare promises seen in this thread to the reality ;)

 

I still think that DCS series became too distracted, and it's impossible to make a combat scenario that actually makes sense. Theatres and aircraft selection is completely random, at least at the moment. :music_whistling:

[effte]

I suppose we need some upgrades to make the P-51D flyworthy in current highly regulated airspace.

 

All you need is a stopwatch, compass and the ASI.

 

Regulate the context to be combat ops instead. That way, we can forget about the airspace and be rid of all need of abominations such as disgracing the pit of the Mustang with LCD displays!

 

(To those who at this point consider going on at length about no-fly zones, arty coordination and the abundance of entirely new airspace restrictions created in any modern combat zone, just forget it - everyone would be awestruck by having Mustangs in the air so they'd receive a carte blanche to fly anywhere they want. Everyone else would have to adjust. Besides, if you can't keep your SA and up navigate airspace by map at the same time, you're not worthy... ;))

 

A FADEC for the engine would be super, and don't forget the P-51D is already

 

Already installed. In this context, it's called a CV carb. Auto-mixture is a sign of weakness, but it's still got it.

[Milene]

So much whining and complaining in this thread. If you don't like it, don't buy it... but quit whining like a pack of kids. It is what it is.

 

Yeah it is what it is but if noone would complain they wouldnt know a large part of their community arent interested in my little pony's and what not with a prop.

 

And yes im NOT buying it :)

[Slamelov]

That's the point we are trying to make - if you think that the above are actually accurate representations of the P-51's Flight Fidelity then you are mistaken. But that's OK too, don't take our word for it - nobody is forcing you. It's like going to the store: I always walk out with a packet of Fillet Mignon as opposed to Ground Beef. As least the choice now exists that, should you want to do it properly, then you can avail yourself of the DCS P-51D. If not, that's also OK - It's all about the choice :thumbup:

 

 

Yes, of course it's a choice, but this is a forum and we opine about the news, planes, sim and such ot things. Do you think that P51 from DCS is great?. No problem, good for you. I think that is not a good move for the reasons I have said before. I think DCS could use those resources in another modern plane because P51 is out of place. And remember that DCS makes combat sims and P51 is a combat plane.

 

So, as combat plane, P51 has not scenery or enemy fighters, and very powerful AA and modern defence systems. As civil plane, there is not global scenery, real airports, ATC's and all the things you can find in Flight Simulator or X-Plane.

 

And, as I have said before, DCS is the only studio creating detailed modern combat sims, so, Why do the same that other studios do?.

 

Of course is only my opinion. I vave a great respect for DCS and I have all the sims published since Flanker series. But this time I have no interest in the Pony. Sorry for that.

 

Regards

[213]

http://worthplaying.com/article/2012/1/22/news/84834/images/325557/

 

imo shows dynamic glass reflection

 

ps. the incongruous arguments make sense to me. seems like a lot of trouble for seeing some prop planes being modeled

[PeterP]

Nice! :) finally someone talks about the new product line in detail!

 

But how can you see on a single static Image that this a "dynamic" reflection...? - and not one of this textures we have since early LockOn?

[Airbuster]

A P-51D??? Wow, just great!!! :(

 

Looking at the screenshots where the Mustang fires at the Su-25 for me is the biggest mishmash in the flight simulation history...

 

I know a lot of you guys are happy with this move by ED. I know a lot of copies will be sold and ED will have a good and steady cashflow.

 

But for me, since the release of Lock-On: Modern Air Combat (the sim that I fell in love with), ED is going in the wrong direction.

Since the great air battles between F-15, Su-27 and Mig-29, the accent in the simulation fell only on ground warfare. Even the ground units 3d models look better then most of the planes. And the choices of developed flyable ACs so far is pretty unpopular. And now we get this - a WWII jet fighter in modern combat enviroment.

 

How come after years of flying ED products, I ended up spending more time flying in BMS then FC2?

 

Hope better days come with FC3 and next DCS add-on.

[pitbldr]

Some of you people are really amazing with the whole "glass is half empty perspective"... even if you don't care one lick about the P-51D, you should at least recognize this as a vehicle for bringing in more simmers into the DCS world. If nothing else, this helps ED continue developing other aircraft.... like the ones you DO want.

 

So, just congratulate those people that are excited about this and be patient for the next modern era bird.

 

Always baffles me how people complain about the lack of quality sims but then turn around and attack a sim developer that doesn't do EXACTLY what that person thinks they should. This is a win-win situation boys... more people getting into ED's products, more revenue for ED to continue development... and some people may even cross over the modern planes from the P-51. I don't see a single negative aspect about this.

[Phantom88]

The Duxford Horsemen Cometh

[element1108]

me too, although i will buy it i am disappointed.

 

i would be happier to know all their human resources are fully concentrating on finishing nevada and upcoming modern aircraft module.

 

They've said themselves the development is of the legends series isn't affecting the work on the jet module. They most likely have a bunch of engineers with different qualifications working on the turbo prop vs a supersonic jet fighter with radar etc anyway.

 

I just hope they announce the fighter soon so the complete misunderstanding can stop filling the forum with rhetorical nonsense (not directed at you). How many times do we need to hear people with no qualifications say what is the right and wrong direction the series goes etc.