DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012

[leafer]

 

or how about when you know the enemy just throttled up because you can

HEAR it even before the planes behavior reveals it.

 

 

How do you tell your opponent's energy on a 2d monitor? I could never do that in Warbirds or DCS.

[GGTharos]

@mower

DF in planes that cant do BVR kills is intense esp. on those rare occasions

where you can see the other pilot looking at you and your looking at him.

 

BVR is pretty intense as well, if you have a worthy opponent ... people who intercept the missile don't count :)

 

or how about when you know the enemy just throttled up because you can HEAR it even before the planes behavior reveals it.

 

You can see what he's doing on radar as well, and there are definitely particular tactics associated with BVR .. there's plenty of 'figure out what he's trying to do' moments ... it's just that most people ... like to intercept missiles :D

[GGTharos]

Back in the times of LO, I broke my stick in the middle of a dogfight with a flanker. I still won, but wtf :D

 

Yes, that's intense! Having your engine fail in the middle of a dogfight...

 

(RoF is starwarsy when it comes to sound)

[Krippz]

Personally thrilled that we have more products being churned out from ED. P-51D is going to take a lot of ingenuity with respect to mission design. Either way look forward to the release; good luck ED.

[Tailgate]

@mower

...

 

I for one would love doing attack runs on bomber formations slicing up the engines etc. :pilotfly:<---- heh finally an excuse to use that smiley :D

that said I prefer jets over props but you gotta love the 'stang and the spit

 

 

I believe the "Bears" are still modeled? That would probably be the equivalent in the current environment, or a formation of AN-26's. :D

[Laud]

Those who try to get a jet-only enthusiast (like me) to like props or vice versa need to learn to accept, that it's just a matter of taste and not a thing about which is more intense or real or whatever...

 

It gives ME thrills to board a virtual jet and get into the fight. Others get this feeling from flying props. Simple as that!

 

And some lucky guys love both of it... Unfortunately I'm not one of those.

 

I absolutely like these aircraft and it gives me goosebumbs to see and hear them flying at an airshow for example, but I don't have the slightest desire to fly them in a simulation.

 

And GG is right: BVR is so much more than some WWII guys try to downgrade it to. Same goes for DF. It's as good and intense as YOU feel it when you fly.

[Bearitall]

Back in the times of LO, I broke my stick in the middle of a dogfight with a flanker. I still won, but wtf :D

 

Have you replaced your stick I would like to take on in a dogfight with P-51D when it comes out..LOL should be fun :thumbup:

[GGTharos]

A long time ago :) This was back when if you knew how, you could easily close to guns range despite missiles being launched at you. It was a cheap $10 stick, I have a TMW now :)

 

Have you replaced your stick I would like to take on in a dogfight with P-51D when it comes out..LOL should be fun :thumbup:

[Bodo]

Really looking forward to this one.

So, what in others' opinions would be the ideal aircraft to pit this P51D against?

[Phantom88]

Really looking forward to this one.

So, what in others' opinions would be the ideal aircraft to pit this P51D against?

 

 

"Achtung Schwalbe"

[MegOhm_SD]

This is just awesome, with all DCS has going on...I am ready to purchase whatever they build... doesn't get any better than this

 

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[Ali Fish]

hmm. p51.. got no clue what to think other than you guys have lost the plot somewhat.

 

ill consider this product after you pull them fingers out and deliver me a printed a10 manual, certainly no interest before.

[159th_Viper]

 

ill consider this product after you pull them fingers out and deliver me a printed a10 manual, certainly no interest before.

 

What's with the misguided sense of entitlement? You have the manual - why not print it yourself? Too expensive? Well then there's your answer ;)

 

As for what the A-10 manual has to do with a Flying Legends module, well I'm tickled clueless. Each however to their own.

[Rainbowed]

Great move ED, I will definitely buy it when its out.

 

Also, hope the next modern DCS aircraft could speed up a little...its kinda killing me trying to see some new announcement on it from you guys...

[Panthro]

Yes, that's intense! Having your engine fail in the middle of a dogfight...

 

LoL I see what you mean, but I've read a story told by a WW2 ace of it happening to him a few times.

[baton_bb]

ED, so We know about P-51D Mustang now, You can tell to us what is next modern US fixed plane do DCS module ...

 

:smilewink: :smilewink: :smilewink:

 

Best regards!

[Phantom88]

ED, so We know about P-51D Mustang now, You can tell to us what is next modern US fixed plane do DCS module ...

 

:smilewink: :smilewink: :smilewink:

 

Best regards!

Ahhhh,The Gazillion $ Question:)

[Roadsweeper]

OK Just spotted this thread a few days late, and appologies for the long post, having been absorbed in relearning how to fly the BS having just upgraded to BS2... and I just dont get all this negativity...

 

 

I keep seeing P-51 vs SA11, FAIL and lack of proper enviroment.. etc.. OK I admit I havent got into A-10 much but I have owned and flown BS regulary for the few 2 years or so, and I totally fail to understand how this cant be approached.

 

 

In BS you approach a SAM launcher at 2500ft, you die before you even spot it on the SHKVAL to lock and fire on it... answer... sneak up the valleys (russian/gorgia map is FULL of valleys) under its radar pop your head up at the last minute and fill it full of rockets/30mm etc. Job done...

 

There is a nice youtube vid of an A-10 doing exactly the same thing too, so WHY, cant this be done with a P-51?, nice ground hug, slide round the side of a hill and drop a couple of 250lb'ers down its throat or a volley of 5 inch rockets.

 

 

As for this "lack of appropriate targets"... a lot of the targets in BS/A-10 are soft, equally vunerable to 50cal weapon fire. Quite a few seem to forget the P-51 was armed with dumb bombs and 5 inch rockets as well as 6x50 cal.

 

Harking back to WW2 the 5 inch rocket was more than capable of opening up Tigers and even King Tigers, the latter having if I recall, being pretty much covered in 50mm+ armour plating, some parts being 90-100mm.

 

 

I admit I am guessing here but I would imagine the older russian BMPs have solid plate armour rather than reactive armour like the T-90 etc.. if that is indeed the case, BMPs having heavier plate armour than the old King Tiger.. I doubt it, hence P-51 vs BMP... P-51 wins as long as you dont come in high and slow from miles out and give the BMP time to get a missile off, same with Shilkas, I doubt they would have heavier armour than an old WW2 battle tank. With no time delays to target lock, relock for next target to shoot, being a simple aim and shoot system I could quite easily see 3 or 4 BMPs being taken out with single rocket pass if your aim is good and they are in a nice line astern convoy.

 

 

I think the only debatable threat for the P-51 is the modern mainline battle tank like the T-90, with thier thick reactive armour I think they would shrug off a 5 inch rocket like they do RPG's but with creative mission planning you could have few/none of these or place it so you can sneak up and take it from behind with a few well aimed rockets.

 

 

My summary, using the hide and seek tactics I have learned through BS rather than the fast jet "tactics" I have seen on MP of approach it at 5000ft and sling a long range missile at it, I think the P-51 will be perfectly suited (although challenging) to our already exsisting terrain as long as you dont try and take on a heavily defended SAM emplacement in the middle of a massive, flat, flood plain.

 

 

I'm sure there will be vids of A-10s limping away with smoke pouring from an engine after a failed mid lvl attack just to watch a P-51 rip along at deck lvl and "hotdrop" the SAM site with a volley of rocket fire after popping over a nearby rise.

 

 

ED... P-51, bring it on, you have my guaranteed preorder and I eagerally await a lethal combat prop driven airframe in the astounding detail you have already paid to the BS and the A-10. The fact this project is being run in parallel to the modern aircraft so wont delay the much anticipited fixed wing release is perfect too :)

[jazjar]

Yeah seriously, what is "DCS U.S. Fixed Wing aircraft?" The only reason you're keeping it a secret is for suspense, right? could you please reveal it or at least give a date for when you plan to reveal it? Thank you.

[Krebs20]

Oh, how wrong you are. Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month? ;)

 

Real life experience there?

 

The real issue is that it takes more than 9 months for ed to pop out a baby. When A10 was being worked on, I remember people just asking everyday where is it. We only knew of one project. But now we know of 5 projects. Dcs: fighter, Dcs p-51, combined arms, EDGE Nevada, and FC3. I think people have a hard time understanding how long this all takes. And those who do understand don't wait any possible delays.

I am curious to know, when did ED and TFC start DCS: P-51? Unofficially?

I hope ED stays busy, makes profit, and makes more perfect combat aircrafts. I don't mind Dcs P-51. It will be a fun aircraft to fly. But ED will cross the line for me when they focus on something the doesn't have a gun on it. ( or gunpod )

[manfrez01]

One aspect of this community is always working on new mission, videos, has worked from the outside to improve the sim, I mean the changes and shows around the world. It deserves at least be well informed, not only on future projects that have already been revealed but the corresponding correlation of development.

Honestly the development of the Mustang, it takes me by surprise and I did not expect, let alone the (DCS: Fighter -¿which of all?;) that shines without incident from the speculation.

[SUBS17]

Awesome, I'm getting this addon.

[Lobo_63]

Chances are very small I will ever get to fly the real P-51D. Chances are very good I will get to fly the DCS P-51D from the magicians at Eagle Dynamics, for that I thank you. Looking forward to it. Cheers.

[Cali]

Real life experience there?

 

The real issue is that it takes more than 9 months for ed to pop out a baby. When A10 was being worked on, I remember people just asking everyday where is it. We only knew of one project. But now we know of 5 projects. Dcs: fighter, Dcs p-51, combined arms, EDGE Nevada, and FC3. I think people have a hard time understanding how long this all takes. And those who do understand don't wait any possible delays.

I am curious to know, when did ED and TFC start DCS: P-51? Unofficially?

I hope ED stays busy, makes profit, and makes more perfect combat aircrafts. I don't mind Dcs P-51. It will be a fun aircraft to fly. But ED will cross the line for me when they focus on something the doesn't have a gun on it. ( or gunpod )

 

Also, when people were complaining about how long it took to get DCS-A10C a mod said because they were working on FC2 at that time also and now look at how many are being worked on....at the same time. That is were a lot of frustrated post came from. people are wondering how long is it going to take to release the next DCS model, when is FC3 going to be released and so on. Some people haven't forgotten what that mod said.

[159th_Viper]

But now we know of 5 projects. Dcs: fighter, Dcs p-51, combined arms, EDGE Nevada, and FC3. I think people have a hard time understanding how long this all takes. And those who do understand don't wait any possible delays....

 

Bottom-Line is that it will take as long as it takes. The P-51 has been confirmed as a 2012 release. Other products as a release 'in the coming months', ie the foreseeable future. Why the hurry?

 

In any event, lets get back on topic shall we.