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What do you mean with "be emulated"? Do you mean that it would take less than a third of the time to develop the simulation? If so, I'd be very interested in what you base that assessment on.

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Hopefully if there is an AH-1W, we get it with a glass cockpit.

 

Then it's not an AH-1W anymore :) The AH-1Z is the only Cobra with a glass cockpit.

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Surprisingly, very few who eventually graduate US Army flight school actually want to fly Apaches as a career, when given the choice.

 

Heck yeah, that's because people who go to flight school want to FLY, not sit around waiting for someone to fix their aircraft! ;)

 

All kidding aside, AH-64 pilots do get the least amount of flight hours over time.

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Heck yeah, that's because people who go to flight school want to FLY, not sit around waiting for someone to fix their aircraft! ;)

 

All kidding aside, AH-64 pilots do get the least amount of flight hours over time.

 

 

I'd say that's pretty accurate, although right now it seems the 58D guys I know are the only ones getting decent time right out of flight school, period. Very low maint on those birds and very little crew required.

 

What do you mean with "be emulated"? Do you mean that it would take less than a third of the time to develop the simulation? If so, I'd be very interested in what you base that assessment on.

 

Mind you, I'm no software design expert, but I'd say based on emulating the overall complexity of the aircraft systems. I'm not taking into account what avionics/navigation/armament systems the newer Zulu models use, as I'm not familiar with them.

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Heck yeah, that's because people who go to flight school want to FLY, not sit around waiting for someone to fix their aircraft! ;)

 

All kidding aside, AH-64 pilots do get the least amount of flight hours over time.

Yes, but (forgive my possibly wrong statements) the Apache is more able to resist enemy fire then the Cobra, Zulu or Whiskey.

 

Dunno though.

 

I would salivate having to do CAS style missions and counter-insurgency in Afghanistan style settings, maybe also with terrain that resembles Germany.

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What is your original reference? Url?

EDIT1: A reference stating "no specific plans yet"; http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=728225&postcount=12

EDIT2: Your reference from SIMHQ; http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_037e.html

There’s lots more to tell about this project, and I will. But for now I want to close with some developmental shots of the aircraft next two aircraft in the DCS Series: the A-10A and the AH-64A Apache. These shots are works in progress and are not complete, so changes are naturally going to happen between now and the final release.

Teasing - good PR ;)

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Sometime ago there were cockpit pictures. Quite a lot of have been done there.

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There was in fact quite a bit of development done for an AH-64A cockpit and it was thought that it may follow the DCS A-10A release, which was planned to follow Black Shark. However, plans had changed and since then the A-10A has been replaced by the upcoming A-10C and the module to follow that is not yet confirmed. Currently, we still hope to release an AH-64A DCS module, but have no updates to provide at this point.

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(Talking to myself) "Please be a fighter, please be a fighter, please be a fighter..."

 

I swear I'll rip off the head of some folks on the respective MoDs if we don't get a fighter because of some contract or secret stuff :D

 

(MiG-29A, maybe? Germany already gave away all the secret stuff to Uncle Sam, anyway, so it won't change much. Plus, Russia is on SMTs nowadays :music_whistling: Yeah, I know... Just wishful thinking :P)

 

By the way, anyone has links to these screenshots of the AH-64? Can't find a thing here...

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Nice, thanks for posting them, daidai.

 

But nothing really fancy, anyway... I wouldn't have much fun in this thing as I have in my good ol' Russian, single-seater, mean-looking and utterly maneuverable Black Shark :D

 

Hell yeah, babe!!

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You could this in one post :)

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I know the boys in development need lots of insider info to build a DCS module, but I really, really, really hope they know a guy who meet a guy who's uncle is the R&D huncho who wants a nice sim for the Apache's (that piece of crap from Firebird's needs an update!), and they get the chance to flex their muscles and then superimpose that to a DCS module...

 

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Deigs, it's not just a matter of knowing the facts - it's about said facts being declassified. For example, if they were to just happen to get a complete set of information on the AH64D, including the classified bits, and make a commercial product involving that any distributor in the US (and probably TFC as publisher, since it's a UK company) would get into all kinds of legal trouble.

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Those are 3DSmax models, I believe. So they are screenshots of the actual model, realtime, but not from within the game.

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Deigs, it's not just a matter of knowing the facts - it's about said facts being declassified. For example, if they were to just happen to get a complete set of information on the AH64D, including the classified bits, and make a commercial product involving that any distributor in the US (and probably TFC as publisher, since it's a UK company) would get into all kinds of legal trouble.

 

Not that I'm an expert (far from it) but I'm guessing fire control and freqs on the Longbow system are too sensitive for commercial release.

Also, how would ED model a 2 man team anyhow?

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Also, how would ED model a 2 man team anyhow?

 

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I would like to see either the Mi-35 Hind or Mi-28 in the dual-seater role, or a Mi-8 for troop insertion/extraction (just something to enjoy taking off and landing in without having to worry about fighting in. :)

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Mi-28 is about as likely as the Ka-52 or AH64D*, sadly. Too much stuff with "secret" written all over it.

 

*Then again, surprises might happen. The original plan was for DCS:A10A, but events transpired that allowed for DCS:A10C. If we are all very lucky something might happen to make a D model Apache possible, but it's one of those where if you bet on it and win you won't have to work for a while. :P

 

Not that I'm an expert (far from it) but I'm guessing fire control and freqs on the Longbow system are too sensitive for commercial release.

Also, how would ED model a 2 man team anyhow?

 

Yeah, the Longbow radar is a bit like the russian Arbalet - good luck getting non-classified information that isn't some guy guessing or doing the "well this dude I know said" thing. Whatever is being said may well be true - but while it can sometimes be allright to takes someone's word for something, doing so for a simulator design that aspires to the "truth value" of DCS isn't quite as good.

 

Modeling a 2-man team is a tiny thing compared to that, I think. At least that one's just a technical challenge that requires the development team and designers to really really think for a while, as opposed to having the designers beg the world's premier military powers to declassify equipment that they consider front-line kit. :P

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Oh no :doh: Not another similar thread. Someone should start a DCS: Mi-24 thread (some cockpit screens have been released if I recall correctly) and people will freak out. 3 x :doh:

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I still want that crop duster to be made into a DCS module... :/

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