Oculus Rift and DCS World Discussion

tobaschi · August 18, 2014

Well...

well like i did said, no not realy, because if you try to look thought the vent's you still have to search the point where you try to look and if you have glasses forget it, so there is no way around a hotas or good flightstick with many buttons

That's my experience with DK1 and DK2 -> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3718/ippppmx2_jpg.htm

mhe · August 18, 2014

Not that I know of. But perhaps the next patch will be compiled with at least Rift SDK 0.4.1. One can hope.

woodsman · August 18, 2014

All I can do is watch youtube videos with my DK2 of people playing dcs.
Looks amazing, please fix this amd problem.

I can empathize. My R9 290X wont play nice with DCS and it's killing me as I was a DK1 early adopter too. Had to run it up to try the Sabre, but it's totally a beer goggles experience going back to the low rez.

Patience, give me patience.

:helpsmilie:

Dudester22 · August 19, 2014

How do you press switched using Oculus Rift?

I just setup the A10C, with the Oculus DevKit 2 and it really feels amazing. However, I cannot click on any of the switches in the cockpit while I'm in the Rift. Can someone tell me if there is a way around this or will it be fixed in a patch? I really hope they carry on supporting Oculus Rift, it just feesl like your flying a huge plane and it's giving this Sim rave reviews on DevKit 2 forums. They just need to up the Res abit more and it will be hard to drag me out of this Sim.

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put this in, but I cannot find the Oculus one.

ericoh · August 19, 2014

Cant you use the mouse to click them?

Alt+C should unlock the mouse incase it is locked to camera.

Dudester22 · August 19, 2014

Cant you use the mouse to click them?

Alt+C should unlock the mouse incase it is locked to camera.

No, I see my mouse as a cross on the screen, I then hover over a switch and nothing will click. Does it work for you using a Rift?

Rongor · August 19, 2014

You have to check your settings, what key combo switches between mouse view and mouse interact.

It will work.

Albeit a yellow cross indicates, you are already in mouse interact mode. Make sure you chose some vehicle with clickable cockpit.

ericoh · August 19, 2014

No, I see my mouse as a cross on the screen, I then hover over a switch and nothing will click. Does it work for you using a Rift?

No i have no rift. Was just trying to help. Good luck.

SkateZilla · August 19, 2014

Make the Rift Unit the Primary Screen,

The Mouse Clicks dont register w/ Rift as the secondary/extended screen.

Dudester22 · August 19, 2014

Make the Rift Unit the Primary Screen,

The Mouse Clicks dont register w/ Rift as the secondary/extended screen.

Ill give this a try when I get home but doesn't setting the Rift screen as primary make things impossible to see? What if I cannot get out of that screen will it mess my computer up?

Also, is there anything in the DCS options I need to turn on because I don't see anything that relates to Oculus Rift. Thanks!

Edited August 19, 2014 by Dudester22

Dudester22 · August 19, 2014

I managed to do it with the rift as the primary, but it's really hard to see what your doing in the options.

Just one more thing if anyone can help and that's is there anyway to reduce the judder when looking around?

Callsign.Vega · August 20, 2014

Rift doesn't have high enough resolution yet for flight sim's.

SkateZilla · August 20, 2014

Rift doesn't have high enough resolution yet for flight sim's.

Correction, Rift doesn't have high enough resolution yet for high fidelity flight simulations.

Rift works fine in free flight and in games that dont require you to read gauges.

Buznee · August 20, 2014

This may help!

shawsie64 · August 20, 2014

Yep the Rifts resolution is good enough at the moment, the sense of scale is immense. The F-15 feels so incredible when sat in the cockpit!

Only issue I'm having is low frame rates and judder. Hopefully this is due to the buggy SDK 'kill service' work around people have to use to play on the DK2. If those bugs are sorted out it will be simply incredible!

Sceptre · August 20, 2014

Does rift give you a headache having your eyes so close to a screen?

Dudester22 · August 20, 2014

Yep the Rifts resolution is good enough at the moment, the sense of scale is immense. The F-15 feels so incredible when sat in the cockpit!

Only issue I'm having is low frame rates and judder. Hopefully this is due to the buggy SDK 'kill service' work around people have to use to play on the DK2. If those bugs are sorted out it will be simply incredible!

The lenses make it that they are not so close to the screen. Doesn't give me headache or sickness, but everyone is different. I hope they implement it better then it is at the moment thought because it's a right pain in the ass setting it up.

Cowboy10uk · August 20, 2014

Guys, make sure you're not running DCS in full screen mode when using rift, tick the windows mode tick box in options. Then you should be able to interact no problems.

At least that is what worked for me.

Cowboy10uk

Cowboy10uk · August 20, 2014

Make the Rift Unit the Primary Screen,

The Mouse Clicks dont register w/ Rift as the secondary/extended screen.

Sorry mate, but they do. I'm currently running my Rift as a secondary / extended screen monitor, with no issues whatsoever.

Main monitor displays, all the main UI, maps options etc. Click on fly and it switches over to the rift. So I only need the rift while flying. If you run DCS in the windows mode as above, you can also interact with the switches with no issues. I do full cold and dark starts only while using the rift.

How I setup my rift.

n display control windows, set up as extended flipped, NOT as primary monitor,

In dcs detect rift is ticked, full screen mode is unticked.

Had the same issue with the mouse not working with my tri setup few years ago, think it's to do with running dcs in full or window mode.

It needs to run in windows mode.

Cowboy10uk

Edited August 20, 2014 by Cowboy10uk

rcmodels · August 20, 2014

So has anyone gotten DK2 working with an AMD card yet or do we have to wait for Edge?

Mnemonic · August 20, 2014

So has anyone gotten DK2 working with an AMD card yet or do we have to wait for Edge?

You don't loose much, rez is still not good enough, too much shimmering in the cockpits, even with heavy AA, because bunch of the geometry in DCS cockpits is just subpixel size in DK2.

But even if you don't care about rez. In-cockpit shadows are not rendering correctly in DCS under Rift as well, and without them shimmering become even more apparent.

Plus lots of pain making it work even with GeForce now.

I will personally wait for proper Direct-To-Rift implementation, and this will be most likely in new version, so together with Edge.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Mnemonic

SkateZilla · August 20, 2014

Had the same issue with the mouse not working with my tri setup few years ago, think it's to do with running dcs in full or window mode.

It needs to run in windows mode.

Cowboy10uk

Windowed Mode is the reason.

In Full Screen Mode, the Main Display Runs in "Exclusive Mode",

Anything outside of the primary screen is not registered, Clicks, Screenshots, etc.

In Windowed Mode, All Displays are managed by both DirectX and Explorer Process.

Performance Changes depending on Resolution, Scaling (How big/small you make the window) and Multi-GPU Support,

Clicks and input from Extended/Secondary Displays are Supported.

Border-less Windowed Mode, is basically The same visually as Full Screen Mode,

But still allows clicking outside of the main screens (extended, etc) when running applications.

But also carries the XFire/SLi Limitations

So For me, when DCS Goes DX11 I wont be running windowed mode anymore,

So I'll be waving goodbye to Helios for A-10C as well, (I only Use it for A-10C Anyway).

Because I'd rather use all my GPUs and have a locked 60FPS on 3 Screens or 75FPS in Rift,

Than Run Windowed Mode and have my performance limited to a single GPU.

Then Again, DX11 Should have Multi-GPU Support for Borderless Windowed Mode.

Regardless, Windowed Mode vs Fullscreen is the reason for the Input issues on Extended displays.

Edited August 20, 2014 by SkateZilla

rcmodels · August 20, 2014

You don't loose much, rez is still not good enough, too much shimmering in the cockpits, even with heavy AA, because bunch of the geometry in DCS cockpits is just subpixel size in DK2.

But even if you don't care about rez. In-cockpit shadows are not rendering correctly in DCS under Rift as well, and without them shimmering become even more apparent.
Plus lots of pain making it work even with GeForce now.

I will personally wait for proper Direct-To-Rift implementation, and this will be most likely in new version, so together with Edge.

Bummer, got my processing notice today. Hopefully EDGE is really around the corner!

Dudester22 · August 21, 2014

I cannot get the Rift to work in Multiplayer, is this because it's not implemented yet? If it is supposed to work then how do I get it to run? I can get it to run in single player just fine. When I click on Multiplayer exe it just ends up with nothing in the rift or on the PC, it's like the game never started apart from a brief screen.

blksolo · August 22, 2014

Multiplayer does not currently work with DK1 or DK2

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