Ka-50 30mm vs A10 30mm

[hareball]

Hi all,

I'm just curious about the cannon on both of these aircraft (Ka50 and A10), and I don't really know much about autocannons... are these effectively the same gun, but with a higher fire rate on the A10? What factors are taken into account for gun effectiveness?

 

Also, another question, is there any aircraft that mounts a higher calibre autocannon larger than 30mm ?

 

Thanks,

Hareball

[Wichid]

The A-10 has much higher velocity and rate of fire as you say. They are the same calibre but totally different.

 

The Spectre gunship has a 40mm autocannon (and a 105mm howitzer).

[dave4002000]

Like Wichid said, same caliber but totally different weapon system.

 

The A-10's GAU-8 isn't an autocannon. It's a Gatling gun with multiple, rotating barrels.

 

The autocannon is more along the style of conventional automatic rifles(but fires shells instead of cartridge bullets) and uses a single fixed barrel.

[sobek]

While using the same caliber, the cartridge used by these cannons differ greatly.

 

The GAU-8 uses the 30x173mm round. The 2A42 uses 30x165mm. The difference in muzzle velocity and terminal energy is significantly different.

Edited April 19, 2013 by sobek

[Cedaway]

2A42 Wiki page

GAU-8 Wiki page

[WynnTTr]

I wouldn't want either giving me a peck.

[Dr_Arrow]

I find Ka-50 cannon fantastic. Lot of ammo, it tracks targets automatically - just put it in the big square box, press trigger and from 2km the target is dead. Vikhr+cannon combo works flawlessly :)

[Tizid]

GAU-8 is like seven 2A42. Oh, and sound is more evil :D

[roob]

The GAU-8 sound is like a god cheering you on

[Donglr]

The GAU-8 sound is like a god cheering you on

 

because gods usually want things to be blown up... :music_whistling:

[hareball]

cool thanks for the info.. I've got some reading to do.

[Yellonet]

Hmm, interesting.

 

GAU-8: 38 mm penetration @ 1000 m

2A42: 55 mm penetration @ 1000 m

[dave4002000]

The 55mm penetration is for the AP sabot round. Penetration for the normal AP-T round carried in the KA-50 is around 18-25mm @ 1000m.

Edited April 19, 2013 by dave4002000

[Yurgon]

are these effectively the same gun, but with a higher fire rate on the A10?

 

I don't think the GAU would quite fit anywhere on the Black Shark...

 

[Boberro]

Exactly. GheyTen's cannon is enormous. This is just big bertha!

[RvETito]

AFAIK the A-10's cannon is not just a weapon but a major structural component of the fuselage.

[WildBillKelsoe]

nor could it fit in any helicopter.. not just the shark... imagine firing the avenger even in a dive... you'll probably get your ass backwards and up when you're actually wanting to go down and forwards.

[leafer]

That's a helicopitor shoot and scoot maneuver right there.

 

helcopter pilot singing: BRRRRRRRRRRRRT and I'm gone.

 

ground target then sing: ouch, where did he go?

[Serp Supreme]

because gods usually want things to be blown up... :music_whistling:

You've never read the Old Testament.

[Pyroflash]

That's a helicopitor shoot and scoot maneuver right there.

 

helcopter pilot singing: BRRRRRRRRRRRRT and I'm gone.

 

ground target then sing: ouch, where did he go?

 

Monotwix? Is that you? Why have you hacked leafer's account?

[Rusty_M]

I've got to admit, as distinctive as the GAU8's "bvvvrrrrrrtttt" is, I still find the "thump thump thump" of the Shark's gun to be very satisfying. It sounds more dangerous in low ROF IMO.

[Kaktus29]

yeah, i love the shark's "thump thump thump" sound..it sounds more metalic..like clubbing your victim with an iron bar.. while A-10 sounds like "taking an iron dump" on your enemy.. both are terrifying to the victim of course.. but i like the sharks sound better..

 

also, does anybody know when do choppers use those useless rockets? ..i mean, they are soo, useless.. why have them.. wouldn't it be better to be armed with gun-pods instead..

 

or is it impossible to put instead a smaller vikhr design in those pylons instead?..

 

and are rockets on choppers more of a armour piercing kind or the cluster soft skin kill type?..

[luza]

 

or is it impossible to put instead a smaller vikhr design in those pylons instead?..

 

and are rockets on choppers more of a armour piercing kind or the cluster soft skin kill type?..

 

The S-13 Rockets are very useful against soft targets

[Griffin]

I wish we had flechette rockets. Sometimes it's very hard to kill infantry with area weapons and GAU-8 I've heard(?). Saturate an area with a flechette salvo and job well done!

[Isegrim]

The S-13 Rockets are very useful against soft targets

 

23mm Pods also ;)