aceviper Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Hello to all Im running 32 bit win 7 and currently cant upgrade to 1.26 because of "Dcs has stopped working" crashes.....and even though I have read of lots of people in the same situation I see no official reply to any of them.So my question ..is anyone running 1.26 on a 32 bit operating system??:helpsmilie:
Lucky Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I thought 32 bit operating systems weren't supported anymore, but I may be wrong. EDIT: After looking at the system requirements for DCS:World, Minimum requirements don't specify 32 or 64 bit. Reccomended requirements say 64bit. So now I don't know. Edited September 14, 2013 by Lucky [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo, Core i9 11900K @ 5.0GHz, Corsair H150i CPU cooler, Asus Prime Z590-A, Radeon RX6800 XT64GB, Team T-Force Delta DDR4 3600, Corsair RM1000X PSU, Win 11 x64
ENO Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 That's probably the page I stumbled into while trying to make the same point but then someone pointed me to ANOTHER download page that said minimum was still 32bit processors. There are a LOT of folks (with the 32 bit fix) dealing with crashes right now... but running "fine" on 1.2.5... I expect they're talking about changing the minimum requirements soon. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
Mustang Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 I've seen DCS using well over 4gb of RAM on a typical session, I shudder to imagine how a 32 bit OS with a 3.25 RAM limit would cope, no matter how well the system is configured.
ENO Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Well I'm not going to lie... I sure hope that "someone" takes a stance on this 32bit issue soon because I'm getting tired of having to tell people that well has (likely) run out of water. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
aceviper Posted September 14, 2013 Author Posted September 14, 2013 Thanks for the replies...an official answer is whats needed.
Sirkam Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 1.2.6 is no longer compatible with 32 bit OS. I have installed W7 32 bits and the only solution i have is to roll back to 1.2.5 until ED gives a word of this problem.
joey45 Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Well.. EDGE WILL be 64bit only so you better save up for a 64bit O/S.. That means DCS: WW2 will be 64bit only aswel..... But I believe the Retail version of Win7 came with both 32/64bit versions. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
aceviper Posted September 14, 2013 Author Posted September 14, 2013 Well.. EDGE WILL be 64bit only so you better save up for a 64bit O/S.. That means DCS: WW2 will be 64bit only aswel..... But I believe the Retail version of Win7 came with both 32/64bit versions. Better check that piggy bank
tarracta Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Now it's about over 6 years since the PC market was moving to 64-bit structure. It's finally time that the games are using the whole amount of RAM I've paid for instead of taking care of outdated system configurations until the end of time. Any step to use the available hardware for getting more performance is very appreciated.
pacotito Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I thought 32 bit operating systems weren't supported anymore, but I may be wrong. EDIT: After looking at the system requirements for DCS:World, Minimum requirements don't specify 32 or 64 bit. Reccomended requirements say 64bit. So now I don't know. I think the dcs store hasn't had the requirements updated in a while. The steam store requirements are a little different and has 64bit as a minimum requirement. Pacotito I7-5820k@4.5 Z99 extreme4 16gb ddr4 520gb ssd. Gigabyte ssc GTX960 SSC 4gb
Nirvi Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Thanks for the replies...an official answer is whats needed. From the DCS Newsletter (March 2013): Moving to 64-bit Operating Systems Only As we move forward improving the DCS World environment, we are more and more often running into roadblocks that prevent us from doing so due to supporting 32 bit operating systems. This includes larger and more populated worlds with greater terrain mesh details and textures. By moving to 64 bit support only, we will be able solve this and allow larger missions with more units, and it will allow us to improve visual effects. This change will be coming in the next few months. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=103090 Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos
Dagger71 Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok I'll accept that 64 bit is the way to go and have seen the release by DCS claiming 32 bit support will eventually end. But I think the OP has a valid question for those of us waiting to get an official response. If 1.26 (and any future patch) can no longer work with 32bit, can DCS please give us an option to roll back to 1.25 until we get our systems up to min requirements? Is anyone running 1.26 using 32 bit Win 7?
SkateZilla Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 It's not just "32-Bit", but actual amount of ram too. you can be 64-Bit, and still have issues running 4GB of Ram. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Hamblue Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 When running a multiplayer server my system uses 5.5 - 6 gig. Looks like 32 bit is toast. You might have luck reducing settings but even if it worked you're still swimming away from the whirlpool. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
winz Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 It's not just "32-Bit", but actual amount of ram too. you can be 64-Bit, and still have issues running 4GB of Ram. You should not experience an OOM crash on a 64bit system if you haven't disabled the swap file. Applications do not care about the amount of Ram, but about the size of the virtual address space, and that is only 2GB big on a 32bit system (3GB with the /3GB tweak). The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
SchniX Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 From Steam DCS World: "Minimum: OS:64-bit: Windows Vista, 7 or 8" and also, i tested in multiplayer and DCS took 5.5 gigs of ram so i guess it's 64 bit only...but i'm not an expert.
joey45 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Thought the steam client is 32bit only? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
SchniX Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 I tested the regular DCS World version and saw 5.5 gigs of RAM, not the STEAM version. But the minimum requirements in STEAM just reflecting my assumption that DCS World is 64bit only. and i guess that in the DCS Site the minimum requirements are not updated. but let's wait for an official response.
SkateZilla Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Thought the steam client is 32bit only? Steam's Front End/GUI and DRM is 32-Bit, that doesnt restrict it from launching 64-Bit Binaries though. And DCSW uses Starforce Externally for DRM, and not Steam's Built In DRM. Edited September 19, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
ED Team NineLine Posted September 18, 2013 ED Team Posted September 18, 2013 It does indeed seem like 1.2.6 is incapable of running (well.. if at all) on a 32bit system (or system with 4gigs of RAM or less)... Its being looked at. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
SkateZilla Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The Lowest I've been able to get my memory usage is 3.4 GB, and that was in a Raw mission with just my aircraft flying, and not doing anything (using Comms etc). I ran one of the Single A-10C missions and it ran at 3.2 GB for a while, but I ran it again and it was over 5GB. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
cichlidfan Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 It does indeed seem like 1.2.6 is incapable of running (well.. if at all) on a 32bit system (or system with 4gigs of RAM or less)... Its being looked at. I have to ask, exactly what is the minimum configuration that ED actually tests on? ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ED Team NineLine Posted September 18, 2013 ED Team Posted September 18, 2013 I have to ask, exactly what is the minimum configuration that ED actually tests on? Internally? I dont know. I know with the tester group there are people that have 32 bit systems to test on, but I am not sure how much attention they get unless we run into problems like this. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
cichlidfan Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Internally? I dont know. I know with the tester group there are people that have 32 bit systems to test on, but I am not sure how much attention they get unless we run into problems like this. That is certainly enlightening. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
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