MFG Crosswind - Review

[Deezle]

Well I ordered mine a couple weeks ago, guess they means I'll get the new color, which I quite like.

[Sokol1_br]

Nice, now looks "high tech" with this graphite and aluminium. :)

Edited August 2, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Rogue Trooper]

Tie fighter pilot black?

[cichlidfan]

Tie fighter pilot black?

 

What ever you call it, black hardware/appliance is always good.

[Yurgon]

OMG these look really awesome!

 

I mean it doesn't really matter. My feet rest on them, I know the mechanics and electronics are absolutely top-notch, and the "old" white ones do look great in any case. But man do they look better in that graphite black. If I ever have too much money, I might order another set and put the old ones up for sale. ;)

[Nash]

Yep, it's a new graphite/black color that we start producing now in August. It's just the color and a slight, barely noticable redesign of the footrests ( grey models produced since May also have this slight redesign on footrests but nothing dramatic).

 

Starting from August we offer a color option - customers can choose to buy in mild grey or graphite color.... will update our website regarding news

Enjoy

Milan

 

Hey Milan...

Like many here I was waiting for your F-16 style pedals that you said you were working on. When are you releasing them ?:helpsmilie:

Please provide an update on those.

BTW the new graphite/black colour looks awesome...:thumbup:

[X93355]

They look great Milan, I just received my 2nd pair not long ago. Might have to order a 3rd :)

[Rabso]

I just received mine yesterday :pilotfly:

 

 

 

 

I like the new color and thanks Milan for your great work

[f4l0]

Would love to have a set in the black, however since I own a set that would be a serious extravagance, I am actually more interested in the F-16 style pedals, if that option is still in the works.

 

Oh yes, a F16 style pedal would be great!

[golani79]

Damn - all this talk about the Crosswind pedals here is making me want some too :D

 

But my combat pedals are still good .. sooo ... hmmm ....

[AussieM8]

I've also been waiting for news on F16 style MFG pedals.

[NeilWillis]

Damn - all this talk about the Crosswind pedals here is making me want some too :D

 

But my combat pedals are still good .. sooo ... hmmm ....

 

 

Your combat pedals might SEEM good, but when you try these, you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.

[golani79]

Your combat pedals might SEEM good, but when you try these, you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.

 

Hehe .. yeah, I think so too - I have to admit I´m tempted but I think I´ll stick to the combat pedals a little longer.

 

But sooner or later I´ll get MFGs for sure :)

[Thomas67]

OK,

I have also brought me these things.

Had to wait 14 days and after a few hours, the rubber sheets are loose.

And the cost for 320 euros ...

 

Super MFG :thumbup:

[hansangb]

*cough* BRD *cough*

 

Seems to me that BRD is more of a hobby and MFG is business.

 

But both who are passionate about their product.

 

It's just easier with MFG because it ships, there is a website, and it's, well, easier to order it.

[Bearfoot]

BRD is big in Russia, I'll admit MFG has a larger presence and certainly makes it easier to order.

 

Interestingly Baur @ BRD actually helped Milan with the MFG Crosswind pedals design.

 

If ease of purchase is your main concern then MFG wins. But I had zero issues ordering my BRD pedals and it was all sorted after a few messages to Baur. :thumbup:

 

 

Is there an in-depth review of BRD pedals? The Milan video showing all the features is great --- you really see all the adjustments possible, from foot position, angle, tension, return-to-center-force, and the all important cams for strong vs. soft center detent. I could not find anything similar for BRD pedals ...

 

[EDIT: if there isn't it would be great if you could do one! Though either way, probably better to do this in separate thread, creating a new one if none such exists!]

Edited August 4, 2016 by Bearfoot

[hansangb]

BRD is big in Russia, I'll admit MFG has a larger presence and certainly makes it easier to order.

 

Interestingly Baur @ BRD actually helped Milan with the MFG Crosswind pedals design.

 

If ease of purchase is your main concern then MFG wins. But I had zero issues ordering my BRD pedals and it was all sorted after a few messages to Baur. :thumbup:

 

 

There's more to it than ease. But that's a litmus test for anyone ordering, no? If you're new to this, where would you order it? Case in point is even if you google for it, there's no easy way of placing the order. You have to figure out the email address, etc. That immediately puts doubts into a new buyer. For those who are familiar, it's not an issue. I'm not putting Baur down, I'm just saying he doesn't seem serious about expanding beyond his current niche. That's he's prerogative and and I wish him the best of luck.

 

Like I said before, I'm all for people like Milan and Baur who expand my enjoyment of flying in DCS.

[Sokol1_br]

Wrong place... ;)

Edited August 4, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Nash]

There isn't such a thing for the BRD pedals unfortunately, but I've discussed this with Baur and I have agreed to create one for him to show off the pedals to the english speaking community. I'll create a thread for them soon :)

 

 

 

 

I agree with you 100%! I can't speak for Baur obviously, but there is reasons for this. He does a number of products including a damn fine flight stick (which I'm hoping to upgrade to soon from my VKB) and his hands are full with just the Russian side of things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

back on topic now!

Yeah would be interesting to see a hands on video review for BRD on a new thread... Exciting times for simmers...

 

@Milan...

Still waiting for the F16 type pedals before placing an order for your MFG Crosswinds...

Please provide an update to the community whether the plans are still on or canned....

Rooting for you mate but a bit dissapointed due to lack of updates...

 

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[Sokol1_br]

Seems to me that BRD is more of a hobby and MFG is business.

 

Indeed, BAUR can't finance a continuous production, only small batches - perhaps based on pre-order like VKB used to do before Gladiator line.

 

Laser cut parts are ordered from 3rd part - what perhaps require minimum quantities, schedule machines availability...

 

Dont know, but looks that make pedals/gimbals is not their primary occupation, so is a "hobby". :)

 

Only recently he engage a guy to help in sales for Russian market.

 

Add to this language barriers, difficult for payments - no PayPal like option for him - and difficult to send goods for American market due the "Putin against world" or "World against Putin" thing. ;)

[hansangb]

--snippage -

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Add to this language barriers, difficult for payments - no PayPal like option for him - and difficult to send goods for American market due the "Putin against world" or "World against Putin" thing. ;)

 

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^- this is a ten foot pole. I'm not going to touch it! :) It's an idiom in the States.

 

Just sell it through Milan. Partner up, and both can make money. Problem solved! :) No, seriously.....you guys should consider it!

[hreich]

OK,

I have also brought me these things.

Had to wait 14 days and after a few hours, the rubber sheets are loose.

And the cost for 320 euros ...

 

Super MFG :thumbup:

 

What did you bought and what rubber sheets?

[Thomas67]

What did you bought and what rubber sheets?

 

This sheets rubber feet. See red circle.

Mine are black.

[Milan MFG]

This sheets rubber feet. See red circle.

Mine are black.

Sorry for that. Rubber feet are simple parts with pre-glued surface that we "stick" to our pedals...and it might happen that pedals weren't properly wiped/cleaned before gluing rubber.

We have recently replaced a worker in production...and while I personally inspect all pedals before packing there is always a possibility to miss something. I never thought on checking rubber feet adhesion :-)

So...if any of you recieved pedals with similar glitch please REPORT TO ME. I will gladly send replacement parts, and , very important to me, I will prevent such things from happening again and improve/modify our design or production principles for next batch of MFG Crosswinds. After all, that's the way we introduce small improvements over time on MFG Crosswinds.

 

REGARDING F-16 style footrests :

- yes, these are still planed, and we are getting close. From day we started producing MFG's our priority was to produce enough so we can have at least small stock, and we still don't have stock, but with introduction of new machines at start of 2016 and getting new workers more and more qualified we are slowly getting there !...

- I know there were lack of updates, mostly because I had to deal with all sorts of "production workflow" and workers education, and because I was working on many other projects , doing customer relationship and ordering stuff all by myself. We employed another worker to help me out with these and voila... I have some time to read forums again, take some pictures, introduce new color, started sales of our MFG Warthog extensions, finished firmware for universal joystick controller...more things to come.

We are currently working on finishing our own webshop...after that, you can expect more frequent updates from MFG Team !!!

 

Thank you for your patience with me regarding introduction of F-16 style footrests... we will get there soon

 

P.S. Very important correction regarding me and Baur BRD !!!!

- I was in contact with Baur on forums, very nice guy. I really appreciate his contribution to flight simulation community...that's all. Baur BRD DID NOT HELP ME WITH MFG CROSSWIND DESIGN.... but we did share same electronics producer, and yes, BAUR had produced pedals before MFG...that's a FACT. Later on we switched from hobby to business, introduced our own electronics in V2 model

I belive we made a better design, appreciated by the community better, made it more available around the world...and by now...PROVEN TROUGH TIME ...and that's a FACT !!!

I wish Baur all the best. We kind of need to push each other to create a better products for us all. Unlike some others, me and Baur always behaved like gentelmen so I can only say Salute ! If someone like Baur design better, for whatever reason, I am happy to hear that :-)

[Thomas67]

Sorry for that. Rubber feet are simple parts with pre-glued surface that we "stick" to our pedals...and it might happen that pedals weren't properly wiped/cleaned before gluing rubber.

We have recently replaced a worker in production...and while I personally inspect all pedals before packing there is always a possibility to miss something. I never thought on checking rubber feet adhesion :-)

So...if any of you recieved pedals with similar glitch please REPORT TO ME. I will gladly send replacement parts, and , very important to me, I will prevent such things from happening again and improve/modify our design or production principles for next batch of MFG Crosswinds. After all, that's the way we introduce small improvements over time on MFG Crosswinds.

 

Good and detailed statement.

The standalone capability must be improved.

The balance should be spread to all four carriers and center of the base.

The front spacers are meaningless for me, but practical.

The rubber feet must be secured with screws, because very strong pressure comes down.

Instead of rubber feet are anti-slip feet for carpets better.