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Frederf, very nice and detailed description, both here and in this post.

Just wanted to say that IMHO you don't necessary have to speak Russian to talk straight to the devs. For example english-speaking guys from 100kiap/51pvo VFS (who fly exclusively REDFOR planes) provide their reasoning in english about missiles to the ED devs in the corresponding thread in russian part of the forum regularly (they also replied about the reason of this change here and in the AIM-120 thread in english part of the forum). If you have technically valid arguments / documents you can post it there and expect reply from the devs in english.

Have a question about target coordinates for this mission (note that I haven't updated to the most recent OB yet and still on 2.5.6.54046):

You misintepreted something my friend. I pointed out the specific thread. If it's too hard for you to read answers in english from the devs there or use Google Translate it doesn't mean other users can't do that.

Yes, it's dead simple. Answering to the statement: I provided a link to the exact thread with the discussion questioned. After that follows my description of the aforementioned thread: 1) A LOT of people accused ED that they buffed AIM-120. Is this true or false? There are so many messages confirming it in that thread that it doesn't make sense to list them here. 2) complained about its chaff resistance in particular. Is this true or false? Here are some of the messages with complains: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4472634&postcount=9400 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4472825&postcount=9405 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4472854&postcount=9406 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4473153&postcount=9420 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4473158&postcount=9421 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4473481&postcount=9430 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4473863&postcount=9432 I'm fine if you want to provide some context to the discussion in that thread here or even if you consider that my post was misleading. But you accused me of statement I didn't make and called me a liar dude. Nice spin, huh?

I realize that Google Translate is not ideal. But nevertheless looking into discussions in that thread many people asked questions in english and got answers in russian they were able to translate from (and understand) with it and then come up with follow-up questions.

Where exactly in this thread I "claimed that ED nerfed the AMRAAM as a result of people whining"? Again I answered there to the specific statement and provided corresponding link: I also wrote that in the thread I provided link to: 1) A lot of people accuse ED that AIM-120 is buffed on regular basis - do you want me to provide links with examples? 2) Recently in that thread there were complaints (like this one) about its notch/chaff resistance with subsequent discussion and finally statement from Chizh about correction - I pointed to his statement directly. At least my *expectation* was that users will read (translate) this message from Chizh then proceed to the thread it belongs to in order to find about motivation behind this decision (that's what I would do).

What did I say wrong in my message? I do see a lot of statements about buffed AIM-120 in that thread *all the time*. Recent complaints were about its notch/chaff resistance after previous update. I didn't say is it right or wrong, looking into this message from GGTharos for example, it seems that it's not AIM-120 sensitivity to notch/chaff that should be increased, but rather other missiles it should be reduced for. Users here asked about the reason - I pointed them to the thread with corresponding discussion and more specifically to the statement from Chizh (and even suggested to use Google Translate to read the answers in russian and ask questions in english if needed).

Answered here

There's entire thread with this discussion on russian part of the forum where A LOT of people accused ED that they buffed AIM-120 (and complained about its chaff resistance in particular). There were plenty of english-speaking folks who asked questions and read replies with Google Translate in this thread (and complained about AIM-120 too of course).

Там еще до обновления писали, что рассчитывают 30-го сентября выкатить, если все будет в порядке.

It's probably better to ask such question in Hornet section of the forum I think. If I remember correctly (as I finished this mission a while ago), JTAC provides you imprecise coordinates in the format DD:MM:SS (while JDAM/JSOW requires precise coordinates), if what I wrote from his 9-line is correct it was: N303004, E474804 elevation: 101 feet. So what I did is for some waypoint that wasn't part of my flight sequence (one that didn't have coordinates entered), say WP 10: 1. I went to the DATA page 2. Proceed to A/C subpage 3. Changed Lat/Long option at the bottom right from LATLN DCML to LATLN SEC. 4. Switched to the WYPT subpage, made sure that PRECISE option at the bottom is unboxed 5. Entered coordinates provided by JTAC in format DD:MM:SS (imprecise) for WP10 using UFC as well as elevation in feet. 6. On the HSI selected WP 10 and boxed WPDSG - this allowed me to point TGP to the area of the target 7. Then I just found required target (building - enemy stronghold) from the description with my FLIR and passed precise coordinates with TDC depress to the JDAM in TOO mode. 8. Hit the target with no issues There are couple of RedKite videos that describe difference and conversion between LATLN DCML / LATLN SEC and PRECISE option that you may find useful: IMO it's better to read/ask in the section of the forum dedicated to Raven One campaign - there's a lot of additional information there. There were some workaround for problem with saving IIRC (separate mission with name ending with 3a or something similar).

I feel your pain man :( Forgot to mention that Iran's Fulcrums escorting strike group shot at us first and then after destroying strike group and getting direction to the Tomcats I was light and therefore relatively high: 27k - 33k feet. Could it affect some trigger? Just FYI.

I had the same problem in this mission. We destroyed strike group and escort (1 Fulcrum managed to escape), then Knight asked about our fuel state: my was ~ 10.0 and Blade reported about 8.0 iirc (but when I checked him on SA page this liar had only ~ 5.0), so I replied Tiger, got direction from Knight and commited for 2x F-14. The problem was they didn't turn Hot on me and when I was close to Iranian territory I had to turn back. Then I turned to the Tomcats one more time (looks like wingman started doing his own business around that time and I suspect he was really low on fuel), went into Iran and destroyed both F-14 who peacefully flew along the coast to the East with absolutely no reaction from their side. Then I returned back to the WP1 and finally land to the Carrier (still had a plenty of fuel, so decided to skip AAR this time). After getting direction to the Tomcats there were no communication from Knight at all. At the end of the mission my score was 380 and results where 80 (or vise versa) and I was able to proceed to the next mission with no issues. Yeah, there were no Phoenixes launches at us at all too. Didn't have the problem with scoring though.

Sometime ago TPOD in Hornet was updated to display coordinates at the top left corner. Looks like these coordinates differ from ones displayed on TOO MSN page for JDAM/JSOW when you depress TDC to pass target coordinates from the FLIR sensor. Not only precision format is different: coordinates on FLIR pages are in seconds while TOO MSN page additionally requires two decimal digits for seconds, but values for seconds themselves are different too (see screenshot). Is it expected that coordinates displayed on FLIR page show different location from position of the diamond cursor or it's just WIP? Also is there a way to display coordinate in PRECISION mode, say if you want to pass these coordinates to another aircraft to strike with JDAM (maybe in future updates)? UPD: Nevermind, I just realized that for FLIR page precision format for coordinates displayed is decimal minutes while for TOO MSN page it's seconds plus two digit decimal value for seconds. Is there a way to change format for FLIR page (maybe in future updates)?

I'd prefer this option honestly

Может вот так?

Верно, надо было MFS написать, поправил спасибо. Поправил, спасибо

Помимо всего прочего: - Релиз MFS 2020 считают плюсом, т.к. это приведет к росту комьюнити, сторонних разработчиков и т.д в целом, что полезно и для DCS тоже - Динамическая кампания в процессе (шутят про "двенедели"), сложная задача, будут отдельные тулы с интерфейсом для настройки и создания кампании (причем нельзя будет вносить изменения после того, как кампания будет запущена: не разрешат "читить" когда компания уже будет запущена) - Сначала зарелизят новые облака, потом изменения связанные с погодной системой (возможно с отдельным тулом для контроля погоды в отдельных областях карты) - Самый большой вызов в разработке: наличие легаси кода. Знают, что необходимо делать изменения в движке, думают как это лучше сделать: итеративно или все сразу - Карта Канал была вызовом, было много нового с чем пришлось иметь дело разработчикам, довольны конечным результатом в итоге (хотя еще будут работать над улучшениями в плане оптимизации и т.п). Модуль Суперкэрриер также был абсолютно новым опытом для компании, изначально не было даже документов, довольны что смогли выпустить его в ранний доступ в относительно короткое время (хоть и с небольшой задержкой) - Хотели бы сделать Кузнецова на уровне Суперкэрриера, но пока нет возможности - Сторонние проекты для военных в чем-то помогают, но не существенно из-за ограничениий: секретность и т.п. Сейчас над ними в ED работают только два человека - Когда-нибудь обязательно возьмутся за Апач - Сейчас разработка сконцентрирована на Ми-24, Хорнете - Маверики и Хармы придут в следующем апдейте для Вайпера - Москито в разработке - Ковид, работа из дому, пустой новый офис в Москве

В следующем апдейте добавят Маверики. Екатерина Передерко также , что ХАРМы завезут тоже.

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Hey baltic_dragon, thank you for reply! Could you please advise regarding elevation question above?

Is this the reason why only Flip has JDAMs while everyone else in the Hammer flight has dumb bombs?

I also had the same problem with AAR on my way back as described in this M08 thread. I chose option to refuel (one of my wingmen was low on fuel, but I always prefer to perform AAR anyway). When I was close to the tanker, the message was to contact it and refuel as usual and then hit space when done. But when I tried to pre-contact I got the message: "Chicks in trail, 1 mile", I believe tanker for some reason considered my wingmen going to refuel first, but they didn't obviously waiting when I finish refueling and hit the space bar. So eventually I had to order my wingmen to refuel by pressing space which they did after some weird manoeuvres (I heard confirmation only from Olive though). Unfortunately after I finally was able to refuel myself, it seems some triggers were messed up as I didn't hear any scripted communications anymore on any channel (Departure, Strike, Marshall etc) and in particular wasn't able to kiss off my wingman (another one sticked with the tanker) on case 3 recovery. I think it's probably something wrong with AI AAR on DCS side as I did see some weird behavior of tanker/wingmen earlier.