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Thanks! Just for confirmation, the C(E) version will be also developed together with the E? And which one will come first? Is this one post still valid? https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3062646#post3062646

Can we have a screenshot from the CE cockpit? Or a photo from the real one, can't find anything in the net.

So I visited the M2000 base and got my question (and other ones) answered https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=191145&page=11 . 1. Indeed, with guns selected the magic circle appears on the HUD, if a magic is loaded, the seeker is cooled (form the PPA) and a plane is locked from the missile's seeker. The pilot said that the seeker can lock a target even without being in the guns mode (I imagine he meant also that the circle appears even in NAV mode? ). The magic slave button is working while in guns mode (so the target is in a triangle) . But to be fired, the pilot must select Mag mode through the throttle and can't do this in Guns mode (the Mirage 2000E has on the stick 2 separate buttons for guns and magic launch). 2. Regarding the dashed part of the snake line we discussed here https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=182527. Indeed, the pilot shouldn't aim with that part of the snake line, due to the close distance of the target. The dashed part starts 50 or 100 m before the 300m mark, depending on the speed of the aircraft. So the dashed part is fully functional and not a cosmetic indication. Edit - here are some good hud tapes showing the snake with the magic circle / triangle 3. About the elastic limit of stick. In the normal stop position, the aircraft has 9G / 29 AoA limit. The elasctic stop gives 2 more g' s (11 in total), if the speed permits it, or 2 more AoA's (=31 deg.). It's never used during normal operations and dogfights, because in that case the airframe is stressed and must be inspected for maintenance. It's used only in emergency situations (to avoid a ground crash).

I too still believe in them, but will wait at least for a post from Zeus regarding the planned avionics development of the Mirage before considering to buy the Harrier.

Thanks for the reply! As for my question, i plan to visit the M2000 base in about 3 weeks, perhaps this time i got this answered and share the findings here.

Already discussed. Look here https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=189045

Thanks Baltic Dragon! I wanted to ask if the manual represents the actual state of the HUD or is also the missing functionality covered? One feature that is missing is obvious the triangle symbology (indicating a simultaneously magic and radar lock). Another one is that, as seen in various M2000's hud videos (example ) with guns selected there is also visible the magic circle or the triangle (look at 3:18 forward). In some older posts this was described as a ''background'' mode, and the purpose of this is that the pilot must know if and which target magic is tracking, in case he wants to switch quickly form guns to missiles. Do you (or anyone else) know how do you bring up this ''extra'' (and missed currently in our module) symbology on the HUD? Does it appear automatically if guns are selected (from the respective hotas button) and magic seeker is activated (from the PPA panel) or another button must be pressed also (MAG on the PCA panel?). And is the magic seeker unlock button (on the HOTAS) working while in guns mode? Have talked recently to a M2000(EG) pilot about that, he said that there is no ''background'' mode and couldn't understand what exactly i was asking for. Sorry for the little of topic, but it's related to the manual HUD chapter and perhaps this stuff is already impelemented in the updated manual.

I thought the FM was around the corner. remember a dedicated thread in reddit from zeus about 2 weeks ago that the fm is almost ready

In the Justdogfight multiplayer server i have a while now constantly only 1kb files. Single player files are ok. Just updated to 1.6.3., problem persist. The problem occurred when i bought the extended or how is it called version, in the initial trial version everything was ok. Any ideas?

The Tornado Gr.1 would be a dream and would make a lot of sense to come after the f-14 (2seater, variable wings etc). But hadn't razbam announced to develop one in the future?

HAF had both the A-7H and the A-7E variants.

Thanks Baltic dragon! Nice work! I suggest to include in the manual also some known operating procedures of the aircraft and not only the description of the systems (like FCOM and FCTM). As an example, after takeoff, the standard procedure is to climb at AB with 10 degr. pitch up (if I remember correctly), as this gives the best climb /acceleration performance and cut the AB off at 300 kts (or 250 if the aircraft is light).

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We were informed that the F-16 was coming from his home base (Anchialos) so it probably needed more fuel.

+ HUD + PCN +damage model + dogfight boresight bug. Also the manual will be updatet. Jester986 All these things have been discussed several times. We all hope that after Harrier get's released Mirage will get some love again from Zeus. Time will tell.

Τoday i enjoyed a spectacular dogfight simulation in the Athens flying week airshow between the 2 aircrafts. Off course the aircrafts were flying for airshow purposes and were not demonstrating a real engagement in operational limits. Anyway, it was very interesting to see the 3 dimensional maneuvers live and not only in tacview Also the (M2000) pilot who described the event for the public gave some interesting informations. He said that both types, in their latest variants, are excellent platforms and have their strong and week points in various altitude and speed regimes. He added, off course, that in his objective opinion the ''2litre'' (that's how we call the M2000) will always win He added, that a 1 circle dogfight is a guns only engagement due to the very small separation between the aircrafts after the head on pass, in contrary in a 2 circle dogfight missile selection is an option for the pilot. He said, also, that in modern dogfights, due to the extreme maneuverability of the 3 / 4 gen. aircrafts, lead pursuit's are the standard used turns. This was the most obvious observation i have made from the event , as the M2000 (attacking aircraft) performed the whole time excessive lead turns without overshooting (+ 2 high yo - yo's if i remember). Comparing the maneuvers to the previous performed polish F-16 show, it was obvious that the aircrafts were pulling a lot of g's, although the pilot added that in a typical engagement in higher altitude the maneuvers would be more aggressive, because the ground wouldn't be a immediate threat. On a side note, i have talked to Polish Mig -29 pilot (Q : who wins in a dogfight against an F-16 , A : the Mig), german tornado and USAF F-16 block 40 pilots.

Will the manual include also the missing currently functionality or will it later be updated accordingly?

And it's not almost finished. There are bug's / missing functionality almost in every system : Flight Model, radar , HUD, PCN, PCA, damage model, manual.

I remember that post. But zeus has told that they are aiming for an 80% realism not that 80% is guesswork

In case of a hydraulic failure, by switching the switch to the 2 position the pilot can see how much pressure is left in the Anc and EmB systems. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2645118&highlight=ancillary#post2645118 See the hydraulic diagrams in the real 2000rdm or the f1 manual (you can google it), it's very helpful to understand the system. Razbam manual doesn't mention it because it's obvious that these systems are not implemented (yet? - see here https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2727855&highlight=ancillary#post2727855 )

I have the manual from the mirage f1 which has the same indicator / hydraulic system shematic. Have asked the same question a while ago and a member in knowledge confirmed the they same functionality. He provided also a photo from the real indicator where you can see the indications Anc and Emer Brk. The logic is that in case of a leak two valves isolate the flight controls and emerg brakes from the whole system so there is some pressure preserved for this essential subsystems. Edit - here is a photo https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2645118&highlight=ancillary#post2645118

It should show the pressure in the ancillary and emerg brake subsystem in the 2 position

Do you see, i'm still learning on the M2000. The next question (that should also be covered in the manual to stay on topic) is what are the exact trigger conditions?

The worst section of the manual, that must be updated first is the VTB. There is completely lack of indications functionality for such a basic instrument, Zeus made a basic description here https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2986738&highlight=radar+velocity+range#post2986738 The description must be detailed, ex. that the intercept line starts blinking to warn the pilot that the radar contact can be lost, and also at which azimuth angle this happens. Also the CCM chapter must be reworked. Although for the most of us it is obvious, for a newcomer even the symbology for each mode is not illustrated, a visual illustration with range and scan patterns would be useful Some other warning indications are completely missing (even form the forums), such as the bip bip bip tone heard during hard turns, which is, from my understanding, not AOA related but stick deflection related +1 for diagrams of basic systems +1 for basic emergency procedures Also different startup checklists, ex how to startup in quick alert etc