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Never mind two seat aircraft, we need constant chatter implemented in all DCS aircraft, along with ATC and stuff but that's for another thread. Looking forward to this module just to have that chatter honestly!

The problem is that multiple trainers are useless in this game, because flight simulations are so much easier than real life flying. For instance anybody get into the Mirage 2000 never playing a flight simulator and physically fly it decently. There's just no need for more trainers, because it is easy to fly any aircraft in this game (when compared to real life when it is necessary for trainers)

The answer is in the question, get on it! I must say aerial refueling is weird, after months of practice I can sometimes do it with maybe just 1 disconnect and the rest relatively smooth, other days its a mess

The USAF did drop the 7P? I thought it was a navy development but was not sure. Thought they used it for a lot of the ANG -A model units. Just thought since both Light Grey and Mudhen's were carrying the sparrow in limited capacity even up until the early 2000's that it would be the most recent models of Sparrow.

Thread Bump So with a recent update for the F/A-18C they announced a list of weapons that will be in the aircraft for both the early access and full release. Included in the early release list... "AIM-9L/M and CATM Sidewinder AIM-7F/M/P Sparrow" Is it safe to say that we will be getting these weapons on the F-15C? I think these weapons would be awesome to have on the Eagle, allowing us to have a late 1970's,early 1980's load out. Very interested to see a P model Sparrow coming to the game, as we jump straight from 1982 to what 1994 in missile development. Maybe one day 9X and -120A, though I wont hold my breath.

$70? Will we get multiple campaigns or something? I just noticed when I went to pre-order. Not commenting or trying to spark a debate or something on the topic, just wondering from a factual point of view why the unusual cost?

I wonder how much access RAZBAM would have for the -15E in terms of what block we could get and which upgrades. Even a 1989 version would be extremely complex, though it would be incredible to have an early-mid 2000's one with JHMCS capability

What an amazing air show! Thanks for sharing going to play it on my flatscreen :)

This is why they have HDD for the HUD, because of the sun in real life. Seems to be a Navy and Marine Thing, both the Hornet and Harrier have it. The F-15C/16 don't have one I believe.

Hello everyone while doing research on a local Air National Guard Unit's History here in New England I learned that they did deploy all deploy to Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom. They deployed as the 387th AEG. The deployed A-10's were from the 131st FS of Massachusetts ANG and 118 FS of the Connecticut ANG, both units have lost their A-10's :cry: Quite some interesting story's about the infrastructure aspects and also about the first integration of the Litening AT TGP on A-10A+ models. I found this as a New...Englander(?) very interesting, but I'm sure everyone with any interest in military aviation will also like it! Also just interesting about A-10 operations! http://warthogdeployments.blogspot.com/2008/10/10-units-of-operation-iraqi-freedom-oif_31.html?m=1 http://www.sponauer.com/a-10litening/index.html Some important excerpts and pictures of aircraft/patches are below... "The 131st FS and the 118th FS were selected in fall 2002 to be the first ever to modify A-10s for employing the Litening AT targeting pod. This advanced pod allowed the drop of 500-pound GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bombs without external guidance" The website has many pictures that are blocked by Photo Bucket that are sadly unavailable

DCS World: AV-8B N/A Harrier II - Wild Weasel

Guys/Gals not to trying to burst a bubble or ruin a conversation. But RAZBAM still has a list of 4 more aircraft to release before it gets to anything else (meaning the Strike Eagle or whatever project). That and this thing will be ridiculously complicated, the Hornet has nothing on the Strike Eagle, because it has 2 cockpits to model. Conversation is great I just want to say I think it would be wise for nobody to get their hopes up for at least a couple more years. But thats what I think as a huge Strike Eagle Fan, an aircraft that will be the end all of Strike Fighter's, take it as you will. :)

I'm no M2K lover, but I enjoy the aircraft and it was my first full fidelity module. I always enjoyed it, though it was not my favorite. I guess if it was my favorite go to aircraft for everything I would be a little upset, but it is not and I'm not. I personally think the stuff missing is not too important, that is to me who uses the aircraft as an Interceptor, and I still enjoy it despite missing a little minor things. I think this just depends how much you play the M2K, your intents with it, and your expectations of a DCS module.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/air/2017/11/07/coming-in-2021-a-laser-weapon-for-fighter-jets/ "Lockheed Martin will create a high-powered laser for the U.S. Air Force that will be demonstrated on a fighter jet in 2021." Times sure are changing...give it until at the minimum 2030 before its in line units anywhere IMO for air to air fighting. Definitely a replacement for ARM such as HARM's to take out the increasingly longer range and smarter SAM sites. By the time we got lasers the F/A-18C might be even released :megalol:

Would be cool...add it to the list of aircraft on RAZBAM's to-do list. This would be #6 I believe?

Here's a couple of books about the Harrier of all variants, with some pictures attached. If you got time to read should help you with the tactics of employing the Harrier in DCS Joint Force Harrier A Nightmare's Prayer AV-8B Harrier II Units of Operation Iraqi Freedom I-VI

Best of luck to you too. Good read on the differences between SEAD and DEAD, along with operations in Desert Storm, Kosovo and OIF. Gets you into the mindset along with a historical read about what and who the Wild Weasels are. Should also help anyone trying to also use the Harrier in the DEAD role, or any aircraft for that matter. Also a lot of the threats in the books are the MANPADS, and AAA that are incorporated into the SAM site. Night Attack DEAD in the Harrier sounds pretty awesome, scary, way to hard for me. Anyway has there ever been any pictures released by RAZBAM of the NVG in the AV-8B NA? Is it just going to be the same look as the one's on the A-10C??? Any interest in a user made campaign made solely for night operations?

It is also very hard to keep this up without writing a book, but I will also continue. ]First off your completely missing my point. Not trying to be obnoxious, but I will bold and underline this next statement for everyone to understand. This is the first full fidelity module, and the first western aircraft, capable of performing SEAD/DEAD, performing the later very well. This is very exciting to me, and I believe many other players. The AV-8B NA is not the best SEAD/DEAD platform, but it is capable of it, and that's great news for the DCS community! Back to history, yes HARMS were used somewhat successfully in Desert Storm. However they were not killing the SAM sites itself, just the radars. The Iraq's could/did replace the radar on the next day. This was a huge problem and why so many coalition aircraft were lost to SAM's. SAM sites previously thought disabled could pop up the next day with a new radar. This is why in 2003, the US Coalition focused on DEAD missions instead. I trust real F-16 Wild Weasel pilots telling me about how the HARMs aren't flying death rods, and the important of using bombs and mavericks and even your gun to destroy SAM's. SAM operators aren't like they are in DCS sometimes, with their radar just turned on the entire time. As seen in every war since Vietnam, they wait for opportune moments, before turning on the radar and shooting, and quickly turning off again. HARM's and any ARM aren't just laser beams, they play and important role, but are given way too much credit. That or I was just listening to some highly biased F-16 Wild Weasel Pilots. In DCS we are fortune to have large mountains and terrain that fills us with cover, so yes we can fly in front of the strike package to draw the attention of SAM's, do some old school wild weaseling while the strikers are doing their thing, and get out. It can select SAMS it wants to attack, its just inferior to anything that has better systems. Same tactic worked pretty well in Vietnam and OIF, and they didn't rely on just shooting off HARM's for everything. In Desert Storm the F-4G's worked pair in pairs mostly with F-16's , the F-4G's usually carrying the HARM, the F-16 carrying CBU's or other bombs. Like I said this also all comes from first hand accounts by Wild Weasel Pilot's. No doubt that the Harrier has its limits, something no matter what were using it for in DCS we will have to learn. It really is a freak of an aircraft, but a good freak :thumbup:. But come on we all know that when it comes to speed and maneuverability the Harrier is no slouch, and is far better than the whale that is the SU-25T, or the A-10C for that matter. This is what will the AV-8B NA will have as an advantage over the other in game CAS/Ground Attack platforms that are playable in the game so far. The argument goes back to SEAD vs DEAD, suppress vs destroy. The Harrier is just part of this equation, just like any other aircraft, and how you make the most out is up to the virtual pilot. Other than in Desert Storm (where we focused on just suppressing, and not destroying the sites), the focus has always been killing those pesky SAM's, so that is what I will be doing in my AV-8B NA mostly, that is if I don't lag out into the ground anymore :( This is a good thing to further debate in another thread, I fear the moderators will soon be knocking on ether of our virtual doors :music_whistling: for talking to much about history. The AGM-122 Sidearm on the AV-8B NA, no matter its effectiveness compared to other systems, will be a useful tool and is a great addition to DCS by RAZBAM!

And how reliable is the memory systems? How many HARM's were shot off in the last 30 years effectively? ARM's can be shot down also. This is why SAM sites are composed of multiple different systems of all types, (including those lame old schooled AAA). A radar is just a small part of a SAM site, something that can be replaced by the next day (as seen in the war's in Vietnam and Middle East). The SU-25T featured with the ATGM's or ARM turns into a fat whale, just wait until a SAM is shot at you. You are big vulnerable target, though yes you do have some armor to help. The Harrier is a much faster, more manueverable target, making much harder to it by AAA and SAMs. The Su-25T does have more flight time, though that does not mean much for a SEAD/DEAD mission, as the F-16 (similar combat radius to the Harrier) has proven. The Harrier has A-A refueling (something many mission planners don't put to use in DCS) and that is a HUGE advantage over the SU-25T in terms of range. While the SU-25T missiles are not bad against tanks, not having fire and forget capability's in an environment filled with SAM's and AAA and can be fatal, something the Harrier with it's Maverick's dont have to worry about. The SU-25T has two engines, good for it. The F-16 has proven that the amount of engines have nothing to do with being a good SEAD/DEAD platform. The goal in any aircraft, no matter what it is made of, is not to get shot and for SEAD/DEAD it really does not matter, once again proven by the "fragile" F-16. So yes if you just want to take off, shoot off a couple of missiles from 20K feet, and land than good for you (not you personally but that mindset while performing SEAD/DEAD)! This is a real tactic that was used in Desert Storm, to not the greatest effect, because you are not destroying the SAM site at all! This is why in OIF, Weasels switched to DEAD missions, often not using the HARM at all and opting for Mavericks and GP Bombs, because you got to destroy the site not just the radar. The effects showed with the amount of aircraft lost to SAM's too. With the Harrier Night Attack, the biggest point I was trying to make is that we finally have a full fidelity module capable of SEAD/DEAD (the first western aircraft also) which is a big deal to me personally and many other players. I just don't like FC3 Aircraft, too easy and arcade like for me IMO. It can perform the Weasel SEAD/DEAD role like the Phantom,Thud,F-16,Hornet and so many others did sucesfully. That's a big deal to me and I hope the AV-8B NA introduces the DCS community to Wild Weaseling (if you don't know what that it is please learn about it, it brings a completely new mindset to SEAD/DEAD). It gets me excited :)

The SU-25T has better ARM, that is when compared to the Harrier (perhaps if you want to count a larger payload that could count too). On every other aspect the Harrier is better. SEAD/DEAD is much more than just flying up, shooting off ARM and coming back down. You have to get close in DEAD, as close as to getting a Maverick off that is. While I don't see it happen much in DCS, IRL (particularly in Desert Storm and OIF) SAM crews would just turn off their radar's and the ARM would go haywire. That's when speed and maneuverability come into factor, you got to go find and kill the SAM. The ARM takes out the radar that is being used by the SAM, not the launchers. Thats what I think the Harrier will be great at, obliterating the darn SAM site, not just temporarily disabling it

What is and what isn't a SEAD aircraft is an opinion, when I think of SEAD and DEAD I think of what Dan Hampton wrote in his excellent book, Viper Pilot ( a must read about modern SEAD/DEAD missions). SEAD/DEAD is much more than just shooting off HARM's (in this case Sidearms's), most of his missions involve using just GP bombs, AGM-65 and the gun. Is the Harrier (particularly the Night Attack) an outstanding SEAD platform? IMO, no not really. I think the Hornet and Viper are superior SEAD/DEAD platforms, and that's why the Harrier is not used as a SEAD/DEAD platform today. But, it is by far the most capable aircraft of SEAD/DEAD that we will have in DCS until the Hornet I think because of a few reasons. It is far superior to the A-10 in size, speed and overall maneuverability for a SEAD/DEAD missions. The A-10 is the only full fidelity "competitor" really, unless you are very good in the M2K. It has a big enough payload to accomplish a SEAD/DEAD mission, ARM capabilities, and plenty of sensors that can be used in assisting with the missions. I agree that the AGM-122 is really a defensive weapon, though that doesn't mean in DCS that it has to be just that. It is fine for basic/defensive SEAD, were you just want a radar to be destroyed. It will work very well with the AGM-65 and Mk-82's to wipe out SAM sites/platforms. It does have a big advantage over the AGM-65 in that if you don't have a few seconds to try to pickle off a Maverick you can just shoot the Sidearm in bore sight mode. I know from using the A-10 in DCS against SA-8's how much of a pain it is trying to get a shot off before having to go defensive. Think if your just flying escort to take out Mobile SAMs along with a strike package, or maybe even as a dedicated SEAD/DEAD platform, and one of the pesky Mobile SAM's pops up on the RWR ready to launch in a few seconds. You have no time to go searching with the Maverick, but with the Sidearm, just point it in the general area, wait for it to get a lock tone (that easy according to the Pocket Guide) and pickle. Now you can go defensive and know the threat is most likely disabled. Not trying to say the Harrier is a perfect SEAD/Dead platform, but it is far better than anything we have so far in DCS

In a month we will have our first full fidelity SEAD aircraft, and one that will be far superior to the -25T in many ways. I am excited just because of that. This will give us all kinds of new mission idea's throughout all of DCS. The Night Attack can really be a capable SEAD/DEAD platform, a platform perfect for operating alongside helicopters

Since I mostly play singe player, and the AI is useless anyway, I like BRA. However for a simulation focused on around realistic simulation, and in a multiplayer environment with competent players all talking to each other, BULLS any day...

My personal dreams/wishes for DCS involves much more infrastructure/immersion with this game. Across all the modules, there needs to be much more units of all kinds that could make you play your module in a far more realistic environment (meaning the units, the maps would be too long to make/costly). I think if DCS could get this out, it would make the game more enjoyable than they realize. Or maybe its just my opinion...

Not to sound like a raging mini-mod but can we all try to keep this thread involved with the F-35 and not the SU-57, or anything else off topic. These are awesome topics to discuss on their own thread. Mods can you please delete any info on this thread not involving the F-35 and this post also. Thank you and this is not aimed at anyone