Harlikwin

Well, the F1 is certainly cold war even though we have the lastest greatest 80's version. The M2k we have generally speaking is not. Its basically a 90's era bird. You only had a small amount of RDI and 530D equipped mirages flying in like 88, so like for the last year of the cold war which hardly makes it representative. And even the earlier RDM radar birds were so few in actual number to kinda make the whole thing moot. Though I'd welcome a early 80's RDM M2000 with Super 530F's.

Per most sources: ( i can provide, but I'm not gonna 1.16 myself) but a quick wiki search will confirm this anyway. 530IR has an early generation InSb seeker, and therefore should be "limited" all aspect. I.e. it could engage supersonic targets frontally (its way more complex IRL but hey its DCS and the IR modeling is what it is). 550 Magic1 is listed everywhere as being rear aspect only and having a PbS seeker (like most early sidewinders). In game, the 550 will get front aspect locks. And the 530IR will not. I frankly think someone just copied the wrong parameters for these missiles, and swapping the seekers should fix the problem.

No mig27 is coming. Only operators were the USSR and India. So documents are a problem. However mig23bn might be doable, lots of operators to include Cuba I think...

IDK I'd assume they self defend with ECM and flares, that seems to be default.

Well spotted, I hope it gets changed.

Yeah check that. IDK. But Ive seen weird stuff in online servers, like you have a 4 ship of bombers, you have one locked, you shoot, missile goes and hits a different bomber in the formation. This is ofc after you are in burn thru range for ECM so hard to tell which one is jamming. And OFC in the cat there is no burn thru cuz the AWG9 doesn't have ECM stuff modeled yet.

Maybe it went HOJ? I've seen various SARH missiles hit different bombers than what I had locked before, both in the cat and FC3 modules for example. I always figured it was likely a HOJ thing.

Hows this? All radars suffer from those 2 lobe clutters, it only matters how the processing deals with that. Since HA mode is basically a pulse mode with no filtering you should get a ton of clutter at low alt and when looking down. I forget which vid it was, maybe Spudknockers he turned the radar elevation down by a few degrees and no real change in the "clutter". IIRC you are supposed to use the Low alt mode (MTI) below 6k feet I think. But thats not implemented yet. And at any rate if you point a pulse radar at the ground from ANY altitude you are gonna get a ton of MLC. Speaking of MTI, here is a fun matlab program to help estimate how much ground clutter there should be and how well you can resolve moving targets. https://www.mathworks.com/help/radar/ug/generate-clutter-and-target-returns-for-mti-radar.html#GenerateClutterAndTargetReturnsForMTIRadarExample-1 And here is a decent on of how to simulate clutter effects. https://www.mathworks.com/help/radar/ug/introduction-to-radar-scenario-clutter-simulation.html?searchHighlight=real&s_tid=doc_srchtitle

Cool, thanks for your input.

Thanks. Any idea on the Super530F?

I'm not talking about some sparkly "effect". I mean the clutter should be dynamic based on ownship altitude and what sort of terrain you are flying over. The texture hardly changes, watch a few vids its always mostly the same, yes the "sparkles" change but I doubt its anything beyond cosmetic. And honestly its fairly questionable how much actual clutter you should be seeing in HA mode at higher alt. I'd assume its overwhelmed by clutter at lower alt in the radar from the MLC and SLC. But again, haven't really seen that in the vids. IDK to me it looks like a FC3 radar with a sparkly texture added to it, which if that is the case is pretty disappointing. Yup. Very true. I hope the F1 radar gets to that level at some point.

The fact that the clutter seems to be a static "texture" doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies about the fidelity of radar modeling in the F1...

I mean the Mirage was still a write off.

Yeah I'd believe the Super530 could be monopulse, the 530D is for sure. And I recall that being touted as one of the improvements to the 530D though I can't find the source for that right now.

ARGHHHH LOL, got one with the top cover off? So close... I.e. like this: This is an R-27 and you can clearly the 4 channels it uses for monopulse tracking

That video was so full of fail and errors... The F1 shot down mig23s in angola.... Um, nooo, It got shot down BY mig23's... It did get some mig21 kills tho.

Are you talking about the radar here or the 530 missile seeker. Also anyone got pictures of the 530 missile seeker antenna? Should be easy to tell if its just con-scan or an actual monopulse that way.

Looks like the 4 missile thing was a test configuration per Aerges.

Well I suppose that settles it. I guess not that surprising given the R23 also used a monopulse seeker head. I guess the main issue for sparrow was miniaturizing it all.

the low low price of 69.99 (my guess)

Yeah I know. IDK, maybe I'll try to see if its doable.

I have some serious doubts that the original 530 was actually a monopulse seeker given its development date. The 530D for sure was, and I'm not really confident even the 530F was a monopulse seeker.

Exocet is in the game on ships currently... Might be able to hack it onto the F1. Might be able to dumbfire it or something that way.

Yup thats the one I was alluding to. Though amusingly Uboats at one point mentioned deka had an interest in doing it. And given that china had a flyable 105 at one point (built from parts) I do really wonder about that.

So will we get our patchwork "early" and "iranian" models before F4 hits? Most early ones were not very good for lots of technical reasons. At best under good conditions they could spot stuff like supersonic bombers kinda ok.