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You can probably strike the ee lightning from the list, as it now appears to be one of many Raz has in the pipeline

There was still a 2.5.5 OB build between the stable one and 2.5.6 I'm sure she had access to much more long range data rather than a momentary snapshot. I don't think it's unrealistic that (broadly speaking) those who engage on online MP are more likely to be more vocal on online fora, and the majority of those playing MP are on OB. In that case, it's very easy to get the perception that the 40% of MP pilots (who are primarily on OB) represent the preponderance of players. But perceptions are often erroneous, the data speaks for itself. In any case, regardless of version or SP or MP, I hope everyone enjoys themselves. Even jasonbirder. We really don't need tribalism.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4287694&postcount=115 Here's the source

Here we go again. According to Kate P., 60% of people are on stable, 30% on OB, ~10% on legacy builds Additionally, approx 60% SP and 40% MP

You've got a braille monitor? How do u fly? :megalol::lol:

thank you, took the words right out of my mouth! :lol:

thats a bit disingenuous, as the current patch cycle is unprecedented rather than business as usual. look back at the changelog, and since 2018 (as far back as it goes) theres never been a break of more than 2 months between stable updates other than the current 5 month gap

Yea , don't hold your breath- there's no indication that update will drop anytime soon. I'm expecting 256 to get squared away but some unexpected but on SC to continue delaying stable update. Doesn't affect me much, tbh, cuz I primarily fly mi8 in Caucasus map these days, and neither have needed or gotten much love since last update, but I don't have a lot of empathy when an OB feature gets delayed a week or two. It would be nice to finally see the new shark pit tho. And tool around in the Jeff over the newly re-lit PG map before going back to my mi8

Actually, it does. Type of target, trajectory, and speed are all considerations, and in the air defense world, ABTs are slow-movers Additionally, what the target is threatening also affects a system's ability to engage (this is different from a missiles ability)

I've been compiling the patch notes of features& fixes implemented in OB since the last stable update. I just copy& paste EDs notes, and consolidate topics. After five months it's up to a 30+ page word document.(and continues to grow) When it finally hits, that's going to be a monster update

True, but neither of those are SAMs One is a slow moving target. The other is a surface-to-surface missile.

https://live.staticflickr.com/426/31671503971_825b35a633_b.jpg

=Decoy= , I wish you & the rest of Raz the best, but a module in the store is better than 11 "in the pipeline", especially when you're working on so many anticipated projects. That being said, it would be nice to have a Kuwaiti livery, like this one outside of Ali al Salem Airbase

Aegis is a ballistic missile defense system, and thus SAMs are unlikely to be a valid target set heres some info, i havent taken time to digest it to see how much is useful, or if i have to look elsewhere. i have some diagrams with my GBAD stuff, but nothing too detailed https://mostlymissiledefense.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2008-5-aegisbmd-statusintergrationandinteroperability.pdf

raz has a pretty full dance card, so even if they are doing it, its gonna be a while till current WIPs are out of the way . in other words, dont hold your breath

ill break it down barney-style, and you can infer what you wish virtually every feature you have currently was once rolled out in OB first. virtually any feature you will have in the future will be validated on OB first. if it doesn't work- you wont get it, or it will be beta'ed till it does work.

What are you talking about? Do you even know? I'm not trying to be an a$$, and that's not meant as a personal attack, but I don't know what it's gonna take to get thru to you on this issue. The following modules are in early access (per DCS web store) & flyable in stable ( based on the fact I am on stable& have all the modules, even the ones I have no interest in): F-16 I-16 Mig-19 CE2 F-14 Yak-52 F-18 Av8B Viggen Every time stable updates, it gains the previous improvements introduced on OB. When the next stable update comes along, it will carry with it all the updates to modules made since the previous stable update. When an aircraft is complete, all features introduced on OB will have been moved over to stable, and the only differences will occur if a dev goes back to tweak a module, for example to update a flight model or make improvements to a feature, in which those changes will come to stable in due time. The only early access module that you don't have access to is the jf-17, and this situation has been explained to you as nauseum for 4 1/2 months. Had 256 not rolled out when it did, you would've had your Jeff months ago. As for the progression of OB to stable is not contingent on a module being complete

Ehh...there are EA aircraft on stable, last time i checked. Im on stable, and the f16,f18, yak52 (!!!!) Are just some that come to mind. Id have to check, but i imagine f14,av8,and a couple others are as well. The jeff is an outlier in that its release was just prior to 256 rollout. OPs request doesn't make sense

Raz has a pretty full dance card at the moment, and who knows how long it'll take them to bring their existing projects to release. Still, that doesn't mean that EDs constraints put on them by Russian gubmint has to be a show stopper. There are mig29s that were exported that could be a source of material- heck, there are mig29s in private ownership , a third party could certainly find everything they need to build the mig29s from the ground up, or give a facelift to existing assets (if it's possible to make a full clicky cockpit that overlays the fc3 model)

The pg map is my favorite, but they seemed to have missed the mark in doing straits of Hormuz rather than northern Persian gulf. While Hormuz is strategically important, and home to plenty of "what if" scenarios , the area around Kuwait, Iraq, and Iran is home to plenty of actual historic examples. Would be nice to have the northern gulf finished, but that's unlikely to ever happen

I just completed it in version 2.5 stable, everything worked fine. See my review on steam

50% more SP than MP. the word "overwhelmingly" can mean different things to different people

bignewy- forgive me if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but ive polishid off half a bottle of whiskey this evening..i understand 2.5.6 isnt ready for stable, but is there a metric you guys have as a target for updating stable? is it fewer complaints? a higher aggregate FPS? Specific MP issues being corrected? Supercarrier being ready to go? Im currently working thru MI8 content, so not worried about having the latest and greatest. i own but honestly dont care about f18,f16, the jeff, et cetera(although, being a rotorhead, id really like to see the new ka50 pit, and new PG lighting), but there are others on stable who do care- it would be nice to know what standards ED aims to attain before stable release can get some love. perhaps the ambiguity is worse than anything: knowing your standards give us a metric to figure how far we are from receiving the past 4+ months of tweaks and updates

As much as I've disagreed with jasonbirder in the past (and I am another of those 60% on stable) he is correct. Kate gave two sets of numbers, one for version demographics, and one for so vs mp, and the numbers were very similar 60/30/10 for versions and 60/40 for so/mp

what would likes & dislikes add? i feel that not having it is a strength, compared to reddit where unpopular opinions get buried or not shown and only ideas promoted by the hive-mind get promoted