JU-87D-5/G-2

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Good morning simmers,

 

Bryan here, and in light of our Christmas announcement revealing our Stuka project I have started this group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1541863419463695/ where I will post official updates just as Oliver has done with the 105. And of course I will post updates here as well. Historical photos welcomed. I have quite a few walkaround photos of the only intact D model over in the UK but if I need anything specific I will shout for community help :) :thumbup:

So excited sir!!

Woot! A Kanonenvogel!!! :thumbup:

Alright guys, being that it is Christmas I will show this Early render of the canopy. Remember that this project is still very early on and the canopy is nowhere near done. Many changes will happen before it gets to you all. Merry Christmas

Bryan

This is gonna be amazing^

Nice........

DCS WW2 is shaping up very nicely :thumbup:

Is a shared cockpit for two client planed (pilot + gunner)?

Interesting project!

Is a shared cockpit for two client planed (pilot + gunner)?

That is the plan. It still has a long way to go before we begin the programming stage.

Thanks Bryan, appreciate the info (and the tease). :) Day one buyer when this bird comes out! :thumbup:

great work team

Stuka is iconic, can't wait!

Looking nioce.

didnt cobra over at LNS do the artwork for the milviz ju87D/G2? Looking forward to this for sure!

Nice........

 

DCS WW2 is shaping up very nicely :thumbup:

Well, i would not be so positive about this. Yes, more and more 40s plane flying against 80s threats. Great. At least, all the previous ww2 planes were fighters so there were some reasons to fly for some dogfights. But a Stuka? Yes, bombing some unarmed trucks convoys... And then?

. But a Stuka? Yes, bombing some unarmed trucks convoys... And then?

BaD CrC, can i be your gunner! :D

Would have loved to see a Henschel Hs-129 for a change for tank-busting:

Most outstanding!!! The more WWII birds that make the hanger the closer we get to more WWII scenarios. Would like to see more from 40-44 era with other iconic classics, like the P-38, Beaufighter, F6F, etc... but this is good too!!

Well, i would not be so positive about this. Yes, more and more 40s plane flying against 80s threats. Great. At least, all the previous ww2 planes were fighters so there were some reasons to fly for some dogfights. But a Stuka? Yes, bombing some unarmed trucks convoys... And then?

Bombing ships?

Tank busting, hopefully with cannons?

Vital cooperation between pilot and gunner, to evade intercepting fighters?

There are some interesting capabilities in this bird. :)

Recommended read is Hans-Ulrich Rudel's "Stuka Pilot".

That opened my eyes a bit I must say.

If you want to learn more, there's also this fantastic series of interviews with former Stuka pilot Heinz-Georg Wilhelm Migeod.

He explains a lot about the Stuka's features, and in some places confirms Rudel's descriptions of tactics used:

(If you want the original series of interviews, split into chapters, the playlist is here:

I used to think that the Stuka was a slow, vulnerable and crippled bird.

But not so any longer. It was apparently quite useful, when used right.

Bombing ships?

Tank busting, hopefully with cannons?

Vital cooperation between pilot and gunner, to evade intercepting fighters?

 

There are some interesting capabilities in this bird. :)

His complaint is that there aren't WWII era ground targets to attack. The sorts of tanks we have currently in game can't be dented by the cannons on the Stuka.

I would like to point out however, that given the amount of time it will take to get this bird in the air, by then it's likely we'll start seeing more WWII module support. There's quite a few of them coming rather soon after all.

Would love to see the addition of the D-4 Torpedo variant :D

His complaint is that there aren't WWII era ground targets to attack. The sorts of tanks we have currently in game can't be dented by the cannons on the Stuka.

 

I would like to point out however, that given the amount of time it will take to get this bird in the air, by then it's likely we'll start seeing more WWII module support. There's quite a few of them coming rather soon after all.

My point exactly. stuka trying to take out an Abrahams or a T80? That would be just fun one time. I can eventually imagine some zu23 as worthy aaa opponents maybe. Taking out boats, yes some civilian ones but I guess the military ones will not react very well at our attempts. I would not like to witness what a stuka will look like against radar guided missiles or high rate 20mm gatling guns. Well, yes, let's hope that by next year, a credible environment and map will see light in DCS. But that might be an even bigger task than creating one aircraft.

We know that ED is working on WW2 ground units for the Nomandy map. I would hazard the guess that by the time we finally see the Stuka in DCS we'll also have a decent assortment of WW2 vehicles. ;)

I am very happy to see this aircraft is developed, it's one of my all-time favourite WW2 birds and I've spent many hours with it in the original IL2, Cliffs of Dover and recently Battle of Stalingrad.

A Stuka in DCS....can this world even get any better?

Very exited to see this project envolve!

His complaint is that there aren't WWII era ground targets to attack. The sorts of tanks we have currently in game can't be dented by the cannons on the Stuka.

 

I would like to point out however, that given the amount of time it will take to get this bird in the air, by then it's likely we'll start seeing more WWII module support. There's quite a few of them coming rather soon after all.

My point exactly. stuka trying to take out an Abrahams or a T80? That would be just fun one time. I can eventually imagine some zu23 as worthy aaa opponents maybe. Taking out boats, yes some civilian ones but I guess the military ones will not react very well at our attempts. I would not like to witness what a stuka will look like against radar guided missiles or high rate 20mm gatling guns. Well, yes, let's hope that by next year, a credible environment and map will see light in DCS. But that might be an even bigger task than creating one aircraft.

Hehe, I guess it's a matter of me seeing the Stuka in a WW 2 environment, while BaD CrC is thinking of the current situation with only modern units available.

In that case we of course agree, even the current WW 2 birds are not much use against modern units. ;)

Its just that BaD CrC's comment struck a nerve with me, because I grew up thinking the Stuka was basically useless since the start of the war.

Only very recently I learned that this was not the case at all, that it could be put to good use in the right environment.

What I would hope for was that the Normandy map would be out when the Stuka is ready for release, and even better if Polychop could come up with an Eastern Front theater to accompany it. :)