j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just got her installed and she's beautiful but man is she a handful. The controls are so sensitive and twitchy that it's by far the most difficult helo module to control. Better have a soft hand is all I have to say because cyclic and rudder input movements that would have you flying perfectly stable in the Huey or mi8 will have you upside down in the Gazelle. Anyone else noticing this? ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Try to apply full left or right rudder, a rollercoaster is nothing compared to this. :D Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I'm finding her a handful; already crashed at least 7 times now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It ain't the huey thats for sure but such a lovely cockpit to take in as the ground rushes up to greet you:music_whistling: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrod_45 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Copy that j0nx. Some axis tuning may be required methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Beautiful model but OMG is it really this twitchy? I may have to add HOTAS curves for the first time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Don't forget guys, that the weight and flight dynamics between the Huey and Gazelle are completely different. Make sure you have your curves set up properly too. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitriov Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 DOn't you even think about changing the curves you ignominous simmer :D These curves were made b real Sa-342M pilots ! :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It is a handful to fly. I haven't managed a safe landing yet. I doesn't help that the FPS in Nevada drop every few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah agreed. Homey don't modify curves. The other choppers will be a breeze to fly after getting used to this one with this level of sensitivity. I always heard the Robinson R22 was like this and now I think I understand! ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Twitchy indeed. Only killed myself once so far though - so I am feeling good right now. What an EXCELLENT launch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoNOOB Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Would be very thankful to hear from 'remotely succesful pilots' and their curve (or lack off) settings + hardware. Still fooling around with my settings and to my everlasting shame I am trying the easier controls mode right now. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It needs a very light touch, but you can soon get to grips with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 It is still manageable for sure but yes very light touch. Only time it got away from me was the initial launch when my collective axis was reversed. Only been in it for about 15 minutes but had no issues landing it or controlling it overall but it's going to take some serious practice to get the feel for. ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It feels like only 20% of your joystick travel is actually usable if you want to live. D@mn... :D Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What's funny is that, for every chopper module released, the first thing that comes to mind (including for me), is : wow, this can't be so hard to fly. It must be bugged. And then, with practice.... https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Nicolas, it's time for you to upload your mission 2 video and show them how it's done ;) Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Fine trimming makes her actually quite stable... However, landing... argh. :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuabi Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just got her installed and she's beautiful but man is she a handful. The controls are so sensitive and twitchy that it's by far the most difficult helo module to control. Better have a soft hand is all I have to say because cyclic and rudder input movements that would have you flying perfectly stable in the Huey or mi8 will have you upside down in the Gazelle. Anyone else noticing this? I'm sure someone said if you can fly the Huey you can fly anything... Not true :megalol: intel i7 6700k overclocked to 4.6, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz, Asus z170 pro gaming motherboard, Asus strix 1080, Max flight stick(modded), MFG Crosswind pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redglyph Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 And I thought the Dora was eager to kill me... System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Instructor Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Pilots! Controls aren't 'twitchy', birds are twitchy. The controls are 'responsive' and you need to adjust your flying style accordingly! Some of the best pilots I've trained in real Extra 300s over the years have been ex Gazelle pilots, because they have a relaxed and smooth set of hands and are able to make smooth control pressure changes without over controlling. There's no harm in taming her down with input curves to compensate for the inherent limitations of desk top joysticks. Stick with it because this is going to be one hell of a fun module :thumbup: CPU: Intel i9 13900KS @5.8GHz | MB: ROG Strix Z790 Gaming-E | GPU: Asus ROG Strix RTX3090 OC | RAM: 32Gb Corsair Dominator DDR5 @6200MHz | Cooling: Custom CPU/GPU cooling loop | PSU: Supernova 850G2 @ 850W | OS: Windows 10 Home Premium 64Bit Storage: 3x Samsung EVO 970 Plus M.2 1Tb + 3x Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250Gb | Input: TM HOTAS WH Saitek Combat Pedals | Output: Samsung 50" OLED TV | VR: HP Reverb G2 | Audio: Realtek + Z906 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 29, 2016 ED Team Share Posted April 29, 2016 She takes some getting used to but she is a beauty, I find landing the hardest :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroBurn Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What axis setting does anyone recommend? Even for my prothrottle which is as responsive as my fighterstick. This baby needs a non-centering joystick for sure. Win 7 HE / GigaByte Z68AP-D3 / i5-2500K 3.30 GHz / 16Gb RAM / GTX 570 2.5GB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt5_Roie Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I would call her agile. I have my curves set in the high teens for flying. But if you want to start slow, there is a "Easier Controls" checkbox in the Misc section if I recall correctly. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn8ke Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Did some experimenting. It is the transition between translational lift and forward flight where the aircraft gets "Squirrely." Beautiful model, should be fun after learning to fly. Asus ROG Maximus X Apex//Core I7 8700K @ 5.3Ghz //32GB DDR4 RAM//Asus 3090 RTX//4K monitor w/ TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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