j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Just got her installed and she's beautiful but man is she a handful. The controls are so sensitive and twitchy that it's by far the most difficult helo module to control. Better have a soft hand is all I have to say because cyclic and rudder input movements that would have you flying perfectly stable in the Huey or mi8 will have you upside down in the Gazelle. Anyone else noticing this? ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf
unknown Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Try to apply full left or right rudder, a rollercoaster is nothing compared to this. :D Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
HoneyBadger Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I'm finding her a handful; already crashed at least 7 times now.
Cibit Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It ain't the huey thats for sure but such a lovely cockpit to take in as the ground rushes up to greet you:music_whistling: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
Ramrod_45 Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Copy that j0nx. Some axis tuning may be required methinks.
the_soupdragon Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Beautiful model but OMG is it really this twitchy? I may have to add HOTAS curves for the first time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hog_driver111th Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Don't forget guys, that the weight and flight dynamics between the Huey and Gazelle are completely different. Make sure you have your curves set up properly too. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
dimitriov Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 DOn't you even think about changing the curves you ignominous simmer :D These curves were made b real Sa-342M pilots ! :megalol:
Dave317 Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It is a handful to fly. I haven't managed a safe landing yet. I doesn't help that the FPS in Nevada drop every few seconds.
j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Author Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah agreed. Homey don't modify curves. The other choppers will be a breeze to fly after getting used to this one with this level of sensitivity. I always heard the Robinson R22 was like this and now I think I understand! ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf
NeilWillis Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Twitchy indeed. Only killed myself once so far though - so I am feeling good right now. What an EXCELLENT launch!!!
ApoNOOB Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Would be very thankful to hear from 'remotely succesful pilots' and their curve (or lack off) settings + hardware. Still fooling around with my settings and to my everlasting shame I am trying the easier controls mode right now. :(
NeilWillis Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It needs a very light touch, but you can soon get to grips with it.
j0nx Posted April 29, 2016 Author Posted April 29, 2016 It is still manageable for sure but yes very light touch. Only time it got away from me was the initial launch when my collective axis was reversed. Only been in it for about 15 minutes but had no issues landing it or controlling it overall but it's going to take some serious practice to get the feel for. ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 It feels like only 20% of your joystick travel is actually usable if you want to live. D@mn... :D Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
BaD CrC Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 What's funny is that, for every chopper module released, the first thing that comes to mind (including for me), is : wow, this can't be so hard to fly. It must be bugged. And then, with practice.... https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden
Johnny Dioxin Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Nicolas, it's time for you to upload your mission 2 video and show them how it's done ;) Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
rrohde Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Fine trimming makes her actually quite stable... However, landing... argh. :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
kuabi Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Just got her installed and she's beautiful but man is she a handful. The controls are so sensitive and twitchy that it's by far the most difficult helo module to control. Better have a soft hand is all I have to say because cyclic and rudder input movements that would have you flying perfectly stable in the Huey or mi8 will have you upside down in the Gazelle. Anyone else noticing this? I'm sure someone said if you can fly the Huey you can fly anything... Not true :megalol: intel i7 6700k overclocked to 4.6, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz, Asus z170 pro gaming motherboard, Asus strix 1080, Max flight stick(modded), MFG Crosswind pedals.
Redglyph Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 And I thought the Dora was eager to kill me... System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR
Chief Instructor Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Pilots! Controls aren't 'twitchy', birds are twitchy. The controls are 'responsive' and you need to adjust your flying style accordingly! Some of the best pilots I've trained in real Extra 300s over the years have been ex Gazelle pilots, because they have a relaxed and smooth set of hands and are able to make smooth control pressure changes without over controlling. There's no harm in taming her down with input curves to compensate for the inherent limitations of desk top joysticks. Stick with it because this is going to be one hell of a fun module :thumbup: CPU: Intel i9 13900KS @5.8GHz | MB: ROG Strix Z790 Gaming-E | GPU: Asus ROG Strix RTX3090 OC | RAM: 32Gb Corsair Dominator DDR5 @6200MHz | Cooling: Custom CPU/GPU cooling loop | PSU: Supernova 850G2 @ 850W | OS: Windows 10 Home Premium 64Bit Storage: 3x Samsung EVO 970 Plus M.2 1Tb + 3x Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250Gb | Input: TM HOTAS WH Saitek Combat Pedals | Output: Samsung 50" OLED TV | VR: HP Reverb G2 | Audio: Realtek + Z906 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 29, 2016 ED Team Posted April 29, 2016 She takes some getting used to but she is a beauty, I find landing the hardest :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
RetroBurn Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 What axis setting does anyone recommend? Even for my prothrottle which is as responsive as my fighterstick. This baby needs a non-centering joystick for sure. Win 7 HE / GigaByte Z68AP-D3 / i5-2500K 3.30 GHz / 16Gb RAM / GTX 570 2.5GB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mt5_Roie Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I would call her agile. I have my curves set in the high teens for flying. But if you want to start slow, there is a "Easier Controls" checkbox in the Misc section if I recall correctly. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Sn8ke Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Did some experimenting. It is the transition between translational lift and forward flight where the aircraft gets "Squirrely." Beautiful model, should be fun after learning to fly. Asus Prime Gaming Wifi7 // Intel 14900K @5.5GHz // 64Gb DDR5 6000MHz // 3090 RTX // 4TB Samsung NVME M.2
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