Remove Start of Mission Zoom Effect + Track IR

Hi ED,

I realize for non-track IR users the "zoom" effect during the mission start is probably a nice effect to get them into the cockpit, but for me as a TrackIR user it just means I have to wait 10 sections and then reset the Zoom on the cockpit.

Is there any way to disable this?

docfu

AFAIK, there is no way to disable it.

Personally, I find the effect so distracting that I can't even begin to start the aircraft until it's over.

Glad I'm not the only one that feels that way.

Anyone else?

It is an intended feature to cater for all. An inconvenience for TrackIr users, yes. Inconvenience does not however outweigh the benefit afforded to others who do not have TrackIr and for which the feature benefits.

You gotta be prepared to take the Good with the Bad. After all, what is a couple of seconds at the end of the day?

doesn't bother me I just wait.

I just stop it immediately by pressing one of the keyboard zoom buttons once. This shortens the pain somewhat:)

Yeah zoom using the keyboard to stop it. I always have my field of view so that the edge of the cockpit frame is just short of the sides of the monitor.

Viper, please name one benefit of this "feature" that no one likes, no one asks for and really does nothing but annoy.

not being a smart arse.

I cant stand either. Wanted to say something about it but I thought I was the only one who felt this way lol.

You gotta be prepared to take the Good with the Bad. After all, what is a couple of seconds at the end of the day?

Lol, I've the utmost respect for you Viper, but you wouldn't get far working in a design-lead software firm! ;-)

There is no place for a 'oh well, they'll make do' attitude in my company, that's for sure. I'd come down like a ton of bricks on a developer who said that!

Yeah... I hate this feature too....

Inconvenience does not however outweigh the benefit afforded to others who do not have TrackIr and for which the feature benefits.

before i started using freetrack i found the auto-unzoom feature as annoying as i find it now that i do use freetrack. what "benefit" was i seeing then?

Feature? I just thought it was a bug (Track IR related). It does bug me a tad, but nothing I'll lose sleep over.

I'd be interested to have the benefits explained, as I don't see them myself.

As the other, i can't see the benefits of an automated full zoom out!

The truth is out there!

i can't see the benefits of an automated full zoom out!

 

It's not automated full zoom out.

 

I'd be interested to have the benefits explained

It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor.

It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor.

Ahhh. I always wondered what the baseline standard was.

Nate

It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor.

Isn't there a way to make it happen instantly instead of 10 seconds wait.

It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor.

Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable?

Isn't there a way to make it happen instantly instead of 10 seconds wait.

Zoom in a tiny bit with Numpad * and then hit Numpad ENTER, fixes it back to default instantly.

Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable?

Not a clue.

Nate

Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable?

Why is it not desirable?

It takes you automatically from this -

to this -

In three (3) seconds only on a 1920x1200 monitor. Would you not agree that view #2 is better?

Viper, but I was instantly at "to This " with old versions....

-anyway-

I dont mind it at all - I have bound a button to send center Trackir and kp-enter at once .

I also tweaked the starting FOV to exacty what I need for a good view (93°) -Problem solved!

Here is another guess why ED add this feature:

On " normal" ratios is it always zooming out gradually...

- Ed added it because on older system it could happen the you experience stutters and hangs for several second because the Engine try to render the scene at once - zooming out gradually gives the system enough time to do it without hick-ups.

z-axis CH fido-schtick. ;)

Why is it not desirable?

 

In three (3) seconds only on a 1920x1200 monitor. Would you not agree that view #2 is better?

It is not desirable because I have a 2560x1440 monitor and the view I end up with in both the Mustang and the Hog are not what I would call 'better'.

It is not a big deal but, I do not see it as beneficial. Also, if you were going to optimize the view for a specific resolution then 1920x1080 would have been a more appropriate choice since that is more common.

See, it's entirely subjective - for me it's ideal. One thing we can champion for is to have the 'feature' optional. I'll do that and see how far I can get with it.

while we are on it -

a slider to set the starting FOV in degrees would be very handy. (["viewAngle"])

...and a slider for the vertical center point too. (["vAngle"])

so all this kind of post would be obsolete:

Way to center the default "centered" camera?

@ cichilidfan - editing the line# 1055 (? - not really sure - whatever -look out for Snap[11][13]) of the \Config\View\SnapViewsDefault.lua is what you are looking for to do it in the A-10C .

Snap[11][13]["viewAngle"] = 100-- (FOV in degrees) - this is for KP-enter

scroll down to the new P-51D block under it - and look out for "default" snap views.

Give me a post when you need further assistance - I will look it up in detail tomorrow. (sitting with the laptop in a park right now and don't have the swap-drive with me)

while we are on it -

a slider to set the starting FOV in degrees would be very handy.

...and a slider for the vertical center point too.

That will be one for the Wishlist forum.