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  1. 1. F-4 Phantom Who Wants it Poll

    • YES. THE MIG-21 NEEDS ITS RIVAL
      972
    • YES. Because I just want the Phantom
      718
    • No, I don't like cool planes
      79
    • No, I love the myriad of lame trainers and far flung planes with no historical opposition.
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Well, I'd love to have the F-4G. The F-4E with the ARN-101 upgrade, and the F-4J/S would be day one purchases as well. I would also buy the F-4B/C/D and non upgraded F-4E as well.

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If and when a F4 Phantom is made, I think it ought to be an Islamic Republic of Iran Phantom. I presume that we will eventually get a map covering Iraq map and we are definitely getting a Strait of Hormuz map, so we can have historically based Persian planes defending Iranian shipping from Iraqi air assets type missions, for sure. The Mig-21bis was not in the US Vietnam War, but I am pretty sure that the Mig-21bis was in service in Iraq during the Iran Iraq War. LNS is already making the F14 Tomcat, so I figure that making a Phantom (and Mig-23 rival) from the Iran Iraq Iraq War time frame might make more sense. :thumbup: MJ

 

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it is the most beautiful aircraft ever with the uh-1 huey. so voted yes

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To me it seems pretty clear that the next thing is the F-4, and the whole Pacific theater thing is a bit of clever misdirection.

 

Reason #1. The obvious. The background image on Leatherneck's Mig-21 page is an F-4. It FOUGHT against it. It's still a largely analog affair, and I'm guessing that building designs of a particular era has an economy of scale to it. From a cost and marketing perspective, it seems just too obvious of a fit.

 

Reason #2. The speculative. The cryptic image that Leatherneck used to hint at the Tomcat features, from what I've read among you experts, a Wildcat, an F4F. Except that, how much sense does it make to work on a WW2 plane, when most of your experience lies with building a Cold War era jet? There is also a Japanese flag...and they still operate the F-4.

 

Reason #3. The technical. It seems that basics of F-14 systems (AI, look-down capability) could be tested on the F-4, as it's likely a more niche product. The absence of a two-seat MP capability is made-up for by being able to fight a period-appropriate enemy.

 

Reason #4. The theater. It could be a chunk of central Vietnam around Da Nang. No big cities, mostly jungle, a good tie-in with Huey, increasing sales among helicopter lovers.

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Reason #4. The theater. It could be a chunk of central Vietnam around Da Nang. No big cities, mostly jungle, a good tie-in with Huey, increasing sales among helicopter lovers.

 

Now that I'd pay a big old chunk o' change to get. The F-4 bundled with a Vietnam map, they could squeeze me for $100 no problem. Add in a dynamic campaign and they can bump it another $50.

 

Hey, I can dream... :)

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I want it just for this reason. Here is me circa 1986 getting ready to start up a phantom at NAS Millington Tennesee.

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Its clear mig-21 feel lonely and need an ennemy. Mirage F1 is on the way from french we need now the us ennemy.

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If anybody has an interest in flying an amazing F-4 that is in Alpha/Beta phase, MILVIZ simulations has done an outstanding job from what I can see. Along the same concept as DCS, if you buy it now, you get all the updates and the full version upon release. Has pilot and RIO capabilities. Here is a video posted a couple months ago.

 

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I'd rather have the Phantom than the Tomcat. We have a U.S. air superiority fighter/interceptor already: the Eagle.

I'd like to drop a few Mk.82's for a change... ;-D

 

Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter.

I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category.

 

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Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter.

I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category.

 

Dale

 

I think your selling the F-14 short big time. The F-14 can turn inside the F-15 by most accounts at least on its initial turn ability. It should bleed of energy more quickly but it was no slouch. It is easily the best interceptor ever made but it wasn't a bad dog fighter. Probably one of the coolest designs in aviation history! Can't wait for it. Although I'll primarily be a hornet driver if it ever releases lol.

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Although I'll primarily be a hornet driver if it ever releases lol.

Phantom after going thru Aerobics? I'm with you on the F/A-18! :pilotfly:

My personal favorite for 80's/90's fighters! :thumbup:

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I heard B0€ing, which owns MDD, has set a ban/high licence fees upon all their products (invented or just acquired).

I'm a newbie around here, and have only recently learned the A-4 Skyhawk project was cancelled because of the aforementioned.

 

Could this be a problem for a controllable, high quality F-4 in this game?

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F-4G Would be awesome!

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And the F-4E Phantom II as well... Particularly an ARN-101 bird.

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Because you have to have your hunter killer team for SEAD/DEAD.

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Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills.

 

If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

 

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Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter.

I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category.

 

Dale

 

Hehe, you're obviously oblivious to the fact that the F-14 is one of the best WVR fighters that the US has ever employed :D

 

Turning is the F-14's biggest strength in ACM, the F-14B/D beating out the F-15 Eagle in both instantanuous and sustained turn rate from lift off to Mach 0.75, and then again from Mach 1.2 onwards.

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Just got the MIG 21 BIS and having a blast. No other aircraft has grabbed me like this one, for some time. Mirage 3 as well anyone?? Would love an F4, plus any teen series aircraft whilst you are at it...LOL...My fave would be the F105..truly a symbol of Pax Americana!

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Still voted no because of the bad poll options, but i love the F-4

 

Yeah, it's a funny poll :) My sarcasm just couldn't say no to the "No, I love the myriad of lame trainers and far flung planes with no historical opposition." option even though I can't imagine a Phantom not being made for the DCS eventually.

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Still voted no because of the bad poll options, but i love the F-4

 

Yeah, the threads a joke, probably why the op is banned. Still, sure would be nice to have this in DCS...

 

 

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Oh yeah, with those thunderous, smokey J79s. Gimmie gimmie gimmie!

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