StandingCow Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Just curious... were we told anywhere that the F4 was a no go since it is still used by other countries? Confidentiality issues? 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
DaveRindner Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 As long as it is accurate and adheres to F-4E NATOPS As long as it is accurate and adheres to F-4E NATOPS, for performance, and cockpit procedures. So a PFM and ASM with adherence to performance figures. http://www.checksix-fr.com/downloads/falcon4/Topolo/zip/Project-21/NATOPS_FLIGHT_MANUAL-F-4E-blk41.pdf
Vampyre Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Well, I'd love to have the F-4G. The F-4E with the ARN-101 upgrade, and the F-4J/S would be day one purchases as well. I would also buy the F-4B/C/D and non upgraded F-4E as well. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
mjmorrow Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) If and when a F4 Phantom is made, I think it ought to be an Islamic Republic of Iran Phantom. I presume that we will eventually get a map covering Iraq map and we are definitely getting a Strait of Hormuz map, so we can have historically based Persian planes defending Iranian shipping from Iraqi air assets type missions, for sure. The Mig-21bis was not in the US Vietnam War, but I am pretty sure that the Mig-21bis was in service in Iraq during the Iran Iraq War. LNS is already making the F14 Tomcat, so I figure that making a Phantom (and Mig-23 rival) from the Iran Iraq Iraq War time frame might make more sense. :thumbup: MJ Edited March 24, 2015 by mjmorrow [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
ebabil Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 it is the most beautiful aircraft ever with the uh-1 huey. so voted yes FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Alexander Seil Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 To me it seems pretty clear that the next thing is the F-4, and the whole Pacific theater thing is a bit of clever misdirection. Reason #1. The obvious. The background image on Leatherneck's Mig-21 page is an F-4. It FOUGHT against it. It's still a largely analog affair, and I'm guessing that building designs of a particular era has an economy of scale to it. From a cost and marketing perspective, it seems just too obvious of a fit. Reason #2. The speculative. The cryptic image that Leatherneck used to hint at the Tomcat features, from what I've read among you experts, a Wildcat, an F4F. Except that, how much sense does it make to work on a WW2 plane, when most of your experience lies with building a Cold War era jet? There is also a Japanese flag...and they still operate the F-4. Reason #3. The technical. It seems that basics of F-14 systems (AI, look-down capability) could be tested on the F-4, as it's likely a more niche product. The absence of a two-seat MP capability is made-up for by being able to fight a period-appropriate enemy. Reason #4. The theater. It could be a chunk of central Vietnam around Da Nang. No big cities, mostly jungle, a good tie-in with Huey, increasing sales among helicopter lovers.
ApathyCurve Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Reason #4. The theater. It could be a chunk of central Vietnam around Da Nang. No big cities, mostly jungle, a good tie-in with Huey, increasing sales among helicopter lovers. Now that I'd pay a big old chunk o' change to get. The F-4 bundled with a Vietnam map, they could squeeze me for $100 no problem. Add in a dynamic campaign and they can bump it another $50. Hey, I can dream... :)
airdog Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 I want it just for this reason. Here is me circa 1986 getting ready to start up a phantom at NAS Millington Tennesee. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5053/5463585775_813e4b0983_o.jpg' alt='5463585775_813e4b0983_o.jpg'>F4nMe Airdog | Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Mobo | i7 8700K @ 4.7 | 32 GB DDR4@3200mhz | Gigabyte 2080Ti OC 11GB| Samsung M.2 960 Evo 250Gb and 500Gb | Win10 Pro | Hotas Warthog #02743 | Track IR 5 | Toshiba 47" 120hz LED | Acer 23" Touchscreen | HELIOS |Oculus Rift-S| http://www.blackknightssquadron.com/
dartuil Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Its clear mig-21 feel lonely and need an ennemy. Mirage F1 is on the way from french we need now the us ennemy. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Hummingbird Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 I'd like the F-8 before the F-4, as it's a better match for the MiG-21 IMO. Also poll choices are ridiculous, so I didn't vote.
Devil 505 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) If anybody has an interest in flying an amazing F-4 that is in Alpha/Beta phase, MILVIZ simulations has done an outstanding job from what I can see. Along the same concept as DCS, if you buy it now, you get all the updates and the full version upon release. Has pilot and RIO capabilities. Here is a video posted a couple months ago. Edited April 5, 2015 by robert.clark251
Python Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 It is pretty difficult to try and go back to FSX now. I'm sure we'll see one eventually for DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bearkiller72 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'd rather have the Phantom than the Tomcat. We have a U.S. air superiority fighter/interceptor already: the Eagle. I'd like to drop a few Mk.82's for a change... ;-D
Gladman Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'd rather have the Phantom than the Tomcat. We have a U.S. air superiority fighter/interceptor already: the Eagle. I'd like to drop a few Mk.82's for a change... ;-D Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter. I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category. Dale i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
Greekbull Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter. I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category. Dale I think your selling the F-14 short big time. The F-14 can turn inside the F-15 by most accounts at least on its initial turn ability. It should bleed of energy more quickly but it was no slouch. It is easily the best interceptor ever made but it wasn't a bad dog fighter. Probably one of the coolest designs in aviation history! Can't wait for it. Although I'll primarily be a hornet driver if it ever releases lol. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPForce Rhino FFB Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal | NeoEngress NACES Seat VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord
Bearkiller72 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Although I'll primarily be a hornet driver if it ever releases lol. Phantom after going thru Aerobics? I'm with you on the F/A-18! :pilotfly: My personal favorite for 80's/90's fighters! :thumbup: Edited April 12, 2015 by Bearkiller72
Bearkiller72 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) I heard B0€ing, which owns MDD, has set a ban/high licence fees upon all their products (invented or just acquired). I'm a newbie around here, and have only recently learned the A-4 Skyhawk project was cancelled because of the aforementioned. Could this be a problem for a controllable, high quality F-4 in this game? Edited April 13, 2015 by Bearkiller72
Vampyre Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 F-4G Would be awesome! And the F-4E Phantom II as well... Particularly an ARN-101 bird. Because you have to have your hunter killer team for SEAD/DEAD. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
Hummingbird Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Not to nit pick but I wouldn't consider the Tomcat even close to the same plane at an Eagle. I mean, hey, I love the 14 and I'll buy it for sure but its an interceptor that needs half of Texas to turn. The Eagle is a bread for combat fighter. I'm also in favor of the F-4, don't get me wrong, I'll buy it when/if it comes as well, but I just don't hold the 14 and 15 in the same category. Dale Hehe, you're obviously oblivious to the fact that the F-14 is one of the best WVR fighters that the US has ever employed :D Turning is the F-14's biggest strength in ACM, the F-14B/D beating out the F-15 Eagle in both instantanuous and sustained turn rate from lift off to Mach 0.75, and then again from Mach 1.2 onwards.
deltahawk2008 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Just got the MIG 21 BIS and having a blast. No other aircraft has grabbed me like this one, for some time. Mirage 3 as well anyone?? Would love an F4, plus any teen series aircraft whilst you are at it...LOL...My fave would be the F105..truly a symbol of Pax Americana!
Farlander Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Still voted no because of the bad poll options, but i love the F-4
Dudikoff Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Still voted no because of the bad poll options, but i love the F-4 Yeah, it's a funny poll :) My sarcasm just couldn't say no to the "No, I love the myriad of lame trainers and far flung planes with no historical opposition." option even though I can't imagine a Phantom not being made for the DCS eventually. Edited May 10, 2015 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Gladman Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 The F-4 faced Mig -21's in Vietnam. Historical opposition is provided. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
Python Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Still voted no because of the bad poll options, but i love the F-4 Yeah, the threads a joke, probably why the op is banned. Still, sure would be nice to have this in DCS... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Blaze Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Oh yeah, with those thunderous, smokey J79s. Gimmie gimmie gimmie! 1 i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
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