JazAero Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Wasnt it that boeing was asking too much coin for the right to produce it? If so the easy answer is having enough money to pay what they are asking, I thought that VEAO just didnt see it as financially viable... feel free to correct me if I remember wrong. so what is your point of your question? Just because one group does not find it financially viable, doesn't mean it's not financially viable for everyone. It almost sounds like you're taking sides. You're supposed to be a moderator and therefore have a neutral standing. My statements were all general and 100% correct . VEAO for whatever reason could not get the job done, I did not say why. That is a 100% accurate statement . It is also an accurate statement as you well know that I am attempting to secure other methods. it is also an accurate statement without getting into specifics that there is a lot of politics and secrecy in the developer community. This is exactly the kind of discussions. I did not want to get into. I am way too old to be interested in petty politics. I'm interested in getting a plane built. nothing else. you can either help, mentor, or get out of my way. Edited November 7, 2014 by JazAero 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus X370, Win10 Pro, Intel I-9 9900K 4.8 128 gb TridentZ, 2X Nvidia TITAN V (volta) , 65" Samsung 7100 series 4K , 2 x 1 TB Evo 860SSD, 4 X 4TB HD, 8 X 2TB HD external array Tmaster Wathog, Elgato Streamdeck, 3DX Spacepilot pro,, Thermaltake 900 tower Corsair H150 WC, HTC Vive, Pimax 8KX VR, Nostromo Speedpad N52, Tmaster MFD x2
cichlidfan Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 VEAO for whatever reason could not get the job done, I did not say why. But VEAO did. Sadly the terms offered to us in exchange for the licence are not economically viable for the project to continue. Therefore we have to stop works on the Skyhawk and park the project indefinitely. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2214751&postcount=223 ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
JazAero Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 But VEAO did. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2214751&postcount=223 you are correct, you responded before I got a chance to amend my statement. But edits have been made. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus X370, Win10 Pro, Intel I-9 9900K 4.8 128 gb TridentZ, 2X Nvidia TITAN V (volta) , 65" Samsung 7100 series 4K , 2 x 1 TB Evo 860SSD, 4 X 4TB HD, 8 X 2TB HD external array Tmaster Wathog, Elgato Streamdeck, 3DX Spacepilot pro,, Thermaltake 900 tower Corsair H150 WC, HTC Vive, Pimax 8KX VR, Nostromo Speedpad N52, Tmaster MFD x2
Skoop Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Well keep persisting cause I want to fly it, has great potential. intel i5 3570k @ 4.5 Ghz + Corsair H100 in push-pull / Asus Maximus V Formula mobo / 16Gb Gskill Ripjaw Z ddr3 1600 / evga 690 GTX 4gb / 1 TB WD caviar Black 7200 rpm sata HDD + 80GB Corsair F80 SSD + 2x Corsair 60Gb Force3 SSD / TM Warthog HOTAS-G940 Peddals / Corsair 1200 AX gold PSU / Windows 7 64 bit OS / 27" Qnix 2710 @ 2560 x 1440 120hz PLS Monitor & 23" acer touch screen with Helios/
ED Team NineLine Posted November 7, 2014 ED Team Posted November 7, 2014 Man you need to chill out, people were asking about the issues VEAO had and I was trying to help clear up why VEAO couldnt and how you might be able to, so please dont start accusing me of not being neutral or whatever, I have done nothing but try to help you and and you have been nothing but rude towards me. You need to remember where and who your target audience is, coming off with an attitude isnt going to help your cause. So try and re-read my statement again in the context it was written with the comments before it and you will find I wasnt taking sides at all. so what is your point of your question? Just because one group does not find it financially viable, doesn't mean it's not financially viable for everyone. It almost sounds like you're taking sides. You're supposed to be a moderator and therefore have a neutral standing. My statements were all general and 100% correct . VEAO for whatever reason could not get the job done, I did not say why. That is a 100% accurate statement . It is also an accurate statement as you well know that I am attempting to secure other methods. it is also an accurate statement without getting into specifics that there is a lot of politics and secrecy in the developer community. This is exactly the kind of discussions. I did not want to get into. I am way too old to be interested in petty politics. I'm interested in getting a plane built. nothing else. you can either help, mentor, or get out of my way. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
JazAero Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 Man you need to chill out, people were asking about the issues VEAO had and I was trying to help clear up why VEAO couldnt and how you might be able to, so please dont start accusing me of not being neutral or whatever, I have done nothing but try to help you and and you have been nothing but rude towards me. You need to remember where and who your target audience is, coming off with an attitude isnt going to help your cause. So try and re-read my statement again in the context it was written with the comments before it and you will find I wasnt taking sides at all. I am very chill, I'm actually one of the chillist people you'll ever meet. if people want to know information from VEAO, then they should ask VEAO. Not expect me to answer on their behalf which has nothing to do with what I am trying to accomplish At the moment. I approach things as any business person would. I asked direct questions which people seem these days to interpret as "rude". you and I have never had a conversation before on these forums. As for my target audience… It is the people who want to fly cool, exciting aircraft in a cool, exciting flight simulator. The only attitude I have is wanting to get things done, and not get mired in the muck of politics. I deal straight up with people and I expect no less in return. and if that is rude, go ahead and call me rude in a public forum and I will wear the label proudly. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus X370, Win10 Pro, Intel I-9 9900K 4.8 128 gb TridentZ, 2X Nvidia TITAN V (volta) , 65" Samsung 7100 series 4K , 2 x 1 TB Evo 860SSD, 4 X 4TB HD, 8 X 2TB HD external array Tmaster Wathog, Elgato Streamdeck, 3DX Spacepilot pro,, Thermaltake 900 tower Corsair H150 WC, HTC Vive, Pimax 8KX VR, Nostromo Speedpad N52, Tmaster MFD x2
ED Team NineLine Posted November 7, 2014 ED Team Posted November 7, 2014 Okay bud, good luck with your project.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Highwayman-Ed Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Whatever you need to do JazAero, I'm pretty sure a large chunk of the community is behind you. Make an FC3 representation even and I'll buy it and if you can upgrade that in the future to a fully featured professional flight model, even better. Just don't give up! Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rangi Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Whatever you need to do JazAero, I'm pretty sure a large chunk of the community is behind you. Make an FC3 representation even and I'll buy it and if you can upgrade that in the future to a fully featured professional flight model, even better. Just don't give up! +1 I would really love to see the A-4 in DCS..... PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
Slipp Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Whatever you need to do JazAero, I'm pretty sure a large chunk of the community is behind you. Make an FC3 representation even and I'll buy it and if you can upgrade that in the future to a fully featured professional flight model, even better. Just don't give up! +1 We vote with our wallets. :smilewink: Don't give up now, there has to be a way.
Aginor Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 It seems my last post is gone, not sure why. Whatever. Basically what I said is that I would be a bit sad if it turned out to become a FC3 aircraft, but that would still be better than nothing. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
agrasyuk Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 So the reality of the situation is: The reality of the situation is between VEAO and Jazaero - they didn't meet on one or several key points. It is possible Jazaero doesn't see the entire picture. it is possible VEAO had other concerns that weren't voiced. Lots of other things possible. One thing is sure however - it is none of our business. Hopefully parties will shake hands before they go their own ways . Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
Chief1942 Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Politics and other issues aside, you develop this A-4 Skyhawk and I'll buy it. Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
WinterH Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Aonther buyer right here :) Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
outlawal2 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 So where is that A4 we were supposed to be getting? Been quite some time without an update from Jazaero... ??? "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
jcbak Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I'm a buyer..... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]WIN 10, i7 10700, 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080 Super, Crucial 1TB SSD, Samsung EVO 850 500GB SSD, TM Warthog with 10cm extension, TIR5, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Wheelstand Pro, LG 40" 4K TV, Razer Black Widow Ultimate KB[/size]
Chief1942 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I can wait... So where is that A4 we were supposed to be getting? Been quite some time without an update from Jazaero... ??? Would be nice to know what's happening re: A-4 Skyhawk, but as with DCSW 2.0. I suppose we will hear something when the developer is ready to let us in on the goings on. Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
panzerd18 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Would be nice to know what's happening re: A-4 Skyhawk, but as with DCSW 2.0. I suppose we will hear something when the developer is ready to let us in on the goings on. Isn't it cancelled due to licencing issues? Boeing wanted too much to licence it.
NeilWillis Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Not cancelled by the developer, but dropped as a VEAO backed module due to prohibitive rights contract with McDonnel Douglas. (edited and corrected). Whether it will see the light of day with full ASM/EFM remains to be determined. Edited February 11, 2015 by NeilWillis
Pman Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Not cancelled by the developer, but dropped as a VEAO backed module due to prohibitive rights contract with McDonnel Douglas. Whether it will see the light of day with full ASM/EFM remains to be determined. Corrected for accuracy. They are not the same thing. Pman
Rangi Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Corrected for accuracy. They are not the same thing. Pman Interesting.... I assumed it was Boeing too and wondered what ED was doing with the F/A-18C, but now I wonder no more.... Once again Pman comes in with interesting info, cheers. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
WinterH Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 So, should we take it that Boeing took over rights of active duty aircraft like F-15 and F-18 from Mc Donnel Douglas and legacy aircraft IP left with the former than? Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
Pikey Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I'm interested and curious to know why the rights aren't transferred to Boeing after MD was merged. Shame licenses are hard to sort out. It's not great news for the F-18C either really, it's squeezing profit margins and I'm wanting to see success here. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Pman Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 So, should we take it that Boeing took over rights of active duty aircraft like F-15 and F-18 from Mc Donnel Douglas and legacy aircraft IP left with the former than? That's pretty close Pman
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