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8 June 2014 Update


We have been reading the discussions here and we will try to answer your questions as soon as we have concrete answers for them. The exception will be the circumstances which led to this change in product management and development. Sorry, but that simply is not going to happen due to legal agreements.


One item I can shed some light on is where the Kickstarter funds went. All of the funds have been spent and they helped develop the Bf-109, P-47, Me.262, Spitfire, and Normandy map. However, given the massive amount of work, those Kickstarter funds were only a drop in the bucket of what is needed to flesh out this project. The vast majority of funds needed to finance this project have and will continue to come from Eagle Dynamics (not Kickstarter). To give you a feel… just the Eagle Dynamics developed and funded flight model for the Bf-109K has already cost us about 120k USD (that does not include external model, cockpit model, cockpit systems, etc.). Developing such products is not cheap!


As mentioned yesterday, this project will only have minimal impact on our other internal projects given that much of the former-RRG team is now working for Eagle Dynamics. As such, projects like the F/A-18C, Su-27 PFM, and new maps are still under active development. As a policy, we now do not discuss internal projects until they are nearing beta level (the exception being DCS WWII due to KS obligations). So, just because we are not talking about them, hardly means that they are not being worked on.


Today, I have also included a VERY early copy of the DCS: Fw 190 D-9 flight manual. Please note that this is hardly final and is very much subject to change over the next couple of months.









7 June 2014 Update


We would first like to apologize for the long delay in projects updates. Since the last update from Luthier, there have been some significant changes in how this project will be developed and managed. No longer will RRG be developing this project and Luthier has ceased his involvement in the project with the exception of helping with some manuals. Eagle Dynamics though will be continuing its development and do our best to honor Kickstarter backer commitments. There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussion.


Because there are some shared resources between projects (like cockpit systems programming), there will be some impact to our other projects. However, because much of the former RRG team is now employed by Eagle Dynamics, the impact on other Eagle projects will be minimal.


We will be restructuring the DCS WWII: Europe 1944 forums to reflect this.


DCS WWII: Europe 1944 is still planned as a single-package option, or users can purchase individual components to integrate into DCS World.


Myself and Groove plan to provide monthly updates.


As a basic outline, here are our current development intentions:


August 2014 – Fw 190 D-9 Dora

October 2014 - BF-109K

December 2014- Spitfire IX

March 2015 - P-47D-30

May 2015 - Normandy Map with period AI units

Other features like the Me.262A-1 and AI-only B-17G are also in development we but do not have a delivery data estimate at this time until these other features are further along.


In the meantime, Groove and our moderator SiThSpAwN are working to make sure that all backers, based on their level of backing, receive their entitlements.


We fully realize that you probably have many unanswered questions. We are in the process of answering those internally first, and once we do, we will update you.


In this update, we can share some updated images of the Fw 190 D-9 and Bf-109K cockpits. In future updates, Yoyo and other members of the development team will provide greater details about the various features.
















DCS Fw 190 D-9 Flight Manual EN.pdf

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Wow, this is ... unexpected? Perhaps not really, but still ...


Tons of questions are atm going through my head, but I need to sort them out a bit myself before I can actually ask them, lol ...


But maybe this:

Is forseeable if and what impact this will have on your other projects, most importantly EDGE and the F/A-18?

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best wishes to the new team from France :thumbup:


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Well holyshitballs, maybe we will get somewhere now.



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This is welcome and not unexpected news. Thanks.

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But maybe this:

Is forseeable if and what impact this will have on your other projects, most importantly EDGE and the F/A-18?


I wonder this as well. It seems resources within ED will now have to be shuffled unless they pull in some members from RRG to continue to meet the deliverable. BUT there is VEAO!!

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I now feel much more that the project is in trustworthy and competent hands. Thanks Wags.


This is welcome and not unexpected news. Thanks.


although there is now offically confirmed that there is a delay, im happy about it.at least now proffesionals are working on it!


Nothin' but truth. Believe it or not, I actually saw this one coming. yawn.. :D I wonder how his spanish coming along...

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Wait, did a bomb just go off in here?!


So much for trust, naiveté and good will...?

Or perhaps judgement should better be reserved until it is finally knwon what really happened.

I guess one has to be thankful towards ED...?


With the backers section (beta) moving to the ED-homepage some time ago and the long delay this has to be something that didn´t just happen over night...

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Well, this is sort of unexpected. Not unwelcome as I know ED can certainly pull it off and to the expected high quality, but it's still a bit of a shame.


I'm curious though as to what has happened with the KS funds. I hope ED have recieved what hasn't been spent so far, just so doing this project doesn't put even more burden on them, rather than RRG running off with it.


I will say I'm happy that ED have the stones to actually pull a project inhouse if they have reason to see it's going to fail, rather than to just let it fail. Muchos respect for them for being awesome.

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Thanks for the infos Wags.

I guess this situation will delay the F/A-18C to the end of the world...

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