SilentGun Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Oh no... After looking at the modal manager on this last stream I noticed it was made by belsimtek Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
Revelation Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Oh no... After looking at the modal manager on this last stream I noticed it was made by belsimtek What do you mean? Belsimtek were the ones that developed the PFM for the F-15C from the beginning. Belsimtek are ex-ED Devs and they have a very close relationship with ED. (from my understanding) Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
King_Hrothgar Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I noticed that too. I'm inclined to think it's a flight model by BST + rest by ED but there isn't any way to know without an official confirmation. On that note, I missed the initial Q&A, was anything said about the F-5E?
SilentGun Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 What do you mean? Belsimtek were the ones that developed the PFM for the F-15C from the beginning. Belsimtek are ex-ED Devs and they have a very close relationship with ED. (from my understanding) so ED just might have revealed another companies product without permission :music_whistling: Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
upupandaway Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Interesting... I thinks Wags was trying to click as fast as he could so we don´t notice. All other indications to the F-5E being a real thing were removed this time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
Python Posted June 28, 2015 Author Posted June 28, 2015 I was expecting him to mention more about it, the cat is out the bag now :) I'm sure it is a way off yet, but it's exciting none the less. If it is a Belsimtek product, well that's fine too, everything thy have done for DCS so far has been to an impressive standard. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aginor Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I think Sithspawn said Wags was using an older build than last time, perhaps that's the reason why the icons weren't there. I wouldn't read too much into it. But the Belsimtek F-15C and the Belsimtek F-5E are interesting. It would fit to Belsimtek's strategy of saying nothing until close to release. EDIT: And I really really hope that Wags doesn't show us stuff accidently. That could mean no more streams. I guess he knows what he shows us. And he knows that we will watch the streams frame for frame and watch for everything that looks interesting, even if it is shown VERY briefly. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
NeilWillis Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I can imagine the howls of derision from some sectors of this forum if Belsimtek announced the F5 before they have done more work on their other modules, so I can't see any kind of announcement from them until, like they did with the MiG-15Bis, it is almost a complete module. SilentGun was in my opinion a little unfair with his "oh no" comment. Would he prefer they didn't release stuff like the MiG-15 and UH-1H? Sure, they have had their issues, but give the guys a break! Speculation is all very well, but I am sure a lot of the stuff Wags has on his machine is in early development, and seeing goodies there is quite a different thing to an announcement of an impending release. Right now, I'm more than happy anticipating the currently announced stuff reaching fruition, never mind what may or may not be on the horizon.
ED Team NineLine Posted June 28, 2015 ED Team Posted June 28, 2015 Dont get too excited yet... for example, the 109 was in our Tester version for a incredibly long time before testers were released to start checking it over, because its in there doesnt mean its eminent, or that its interrupting any work on existing modules, which is evident by the work on the Mi-8 recently. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Aginor Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Don't spoil the party, Sithspawn! :D DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Solty Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Yes, because DCS doesn't have enough trainers already in development.:chair: Seriously, there is no reason to gimp one of the finest light fighters ever built by going with an overweight and underpowered trainer version The E is the obvious model to go with and I'm glad they are. It was the most produced version and saw the most combat in the most places. :book: +1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA
Rangi Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Dont get too excited yet... for example, the 109 was in our Tester version for a incredibly long time before testers were released to start checking it over, because its in there doesnt mean its eminent, or that its interrupting any work on existing modules, which is evident by the work on the Mi-8 recently. Oh it's definitely eminent, whether it's imminent is another question..... Sorry couldn't resist. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
ED Team NineLine Posted June 29, 2015 ED Team Posted June 29, 2015 Bah :P Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
zaelu Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 I think Wags is just teasing us. :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Zibell Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Another great reason for having the F-5E: It is a frontal aspect stealth fighter. [sIGPIC]hi[/sIGPIC]
OnlyforDCS Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Another great reason for having the F-5E: It is a frontal aspect stealth fighter. What??! Where did you hear/read that? Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Aginor Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I think what he meant is that the F-5E has a very small silhouette from the front, making its RCS from the front very small. So you can lock on later, which could be seen as "poor people's stealth". Wiki cites a book by Pierre Sprey: A small visual and radar cross section size and consequent detection difficulty often conferred the F-5 the advantage of surprise DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
jcbak Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I thinks Wags was trying to click as fast as he could so we don´t notice. All other indications to the F-5E being a real thing were removed this time. Agreed.....I noticed the same thing. After the first stream when everyone was examining his module manager in detail....he was pretty quick with the mouse. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]WIN 10, i7 10700, 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080 Super, Crucial 1TB SSD, Samsung EVO 850 500GB SSD, TM Warthog with 10cm extension, TIR5, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Wheelstand Pro, LG 40" 4K TV, Razer Black Widow Ultimate KB[/size]
shagrat Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Agreed.....I noticed the same thing. After the first stream when everyone was examining his module manager in detail....he was pretty quick with the mouse. Considering how people bash and maim Belsimtek now for developing "yet another jet" instead of finishing the Huey/the Mi-8/the AH-1 Cobra/you-name-it, I can understand, why Wags doesn't want to elaborate on current projects yet in development or pretty early stages... If people could be more relaxed we may get lots more of info on projects and plans. Even if they are "Subject to change". While the typical bit of information is still kicking of wild assumptions and a subsequent shitstorm for either Eagle Dynamics or one of their 3rd parties, we will need to glimpse at video still frames, or read between the lines unfortunately... I really miss the old A-10C beta times. :cry: Edited July 4, 2015 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Zibell Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 What??! Where did you hear/read that? Here, among comments by french pilots (IIRC) who attended past CRUZEX exercizes in Brazil. [sIGPIC]hi[/sIGPIC]
Tirak Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Here, among comments by french pilots (IIRC) who attended past CRUZEX exercizes in Brazil. You're misinterpreting. The RCS cross section isn't stealth, he's talking about VISUAL tracking. The passage you're no doubt referring to about losing lock means that the pilot broke the lock, not that the frontal aspect was so stealthy that the radar system couldn't maintain a lock. What he's saying is that the F-5 pilot broke lock, then turned nose on, and because the frontal aspect is so miniscule, the pilot had a hard time visually reacquiring him.
dartuil Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Interesting!! i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Python Posted July 26, 2015 Author Posted July 26, 2015 Nice to see a nod to this in the stream today. Looking forward to a future stream dedicated to the F-5. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dartuil Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I've noticed F-5 parked next to the L-39 today's stream! i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
wingnut Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Here is Wags comment....hmmmm! :thumbup:[sIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/27wvRIj.png[/sIGPIC]
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