Any model in particular you may be interested?

[DoomEngine]

F-4 phantom

 

OV-10 Bronco

 

A-6 Intruder

 

Merry Christmas!

Edited July 7, 2017 by DoomEngine
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[jpbordi]

Don't very, it is just my wishlist dream, i can add more of course, P38,P47, ME262,MIG31, etc.., but only the maker can take decision of which bird it want do for DCS.

 

 

The rafale is present in my list because Eurofigther T1 will be made by dcs maker (VEAO) for DCS. but for wait, i play the old game EF2000, very good.

 

My list is based for air air conflict, iran iraq war, 6 days war, WWII air battle, north africa, asia air battle, air war flaklands etc.. and of course need map, like normandy, orsmutz,etc..

 

When i see the time needed for plane addon, it will be very long. i have IL2 for wait.

 

The eurofighter T1 is not comparable with euroifghter T3

The rafale M F1 is not comparable with the rafale F3R or F4

 

Euroifighter T1 or rafale M F1 was just able to do air air action and very limited for other rule. it was pre serie, it must be possible to make it, because they have not so much toys available in this time.

 

RAfale F1 doesnt have spectra or aesa, meteor, aasm, gbu, just pesa and mica. very poor in this time. need 3 years for update rafale F1 standard to rafale F3R standard because lot of difference and need to remake completely.

 

a F4 Phantom have good chance to get Eurofighter T1 or Rafale F1 but doesnt any chance with last standard of Eurofighter T3/rafale F3/F4 because lot advanced system for bvr and passive detection and missile long range.

 

edit : Why on RAZBAM topic, because i bought lot of addon for FSX, it do lot european jet & south american & Russian & USA & Japan, i hope it adapt all his catalog :)

and it know well French jet mirage and it can do the rafale mod. i love also his harrier et skyraider.

Edited July 9, 2017 by jpbordi

[probad]

the logic isn't that simple

veao allegedly got a contract from the uk mod to do a simulator of the ef2000, and any dcs ef module must piggyback off of the info released for that as that sort of deal is just about the only way to obtain information on these newer aircraft.

 

there is no similar relationship between any dcs content devs and dassault.

[asla36]

the logic isn't that simple

veao allegedly got a contract from the uk mod to do a simulator of the ef2000, and any dcs ef module must piggyback off of the info released for that as that sort of deal is just about the only way to obtain information on these newer aircraft.

 

there is no similar relationship between any dcs content devs and dassault.

Yes, that is the only way of making any modern module that is not of a US bird. And 5th gen is impossible. So no military contract, no module. As long as the French air force is satisfied with it's current sims, no DCS: Rafale. End of story.

 

Even if we were to get a module of let's say a Rafale, it would be far away from the real thing. National defense overrides our games.

[Pasquale1986]

Yes, that is the only way of making any modern module that is not of a US bird. And 5th gen is impossible. So no military contract, no module. As long as the French air force is satisfied with it's current sims, no DCS: Rafale. End of story.

 

Even if we were to get a module of let's say a Rafale, it would be far away from the real thing. National defense overrides our games.

 

 

I agree. Realistic and very nice would be a F-16C Block 50/52 or similar. That should work nicely with the F/A-18C and is operated by a lot of different nations and leaves mission designers mit severeal options.

Edited July 10, 2017 by Pasquale1986

[cauldron]

Not sure if it was mentioned, 80 pages is a lot...

 

But I am of the opinion that dcs could go more than just Russian built planes & US built planes. So...

 

How about the Indian Tejas, or the Chinese J-10 ( which is based off the LAVI ), I would love to see either of those two planes flyable!

[WinterH]

Seeing as Tejas, like the F-35, is just barely entering service these last few years, and its features are likely still in development IRL, I don't think that it is a likely candidate for a good DCS module.

 

There is however, a group of people from China who seem to be developing a JF-17 for DCS and are planning to apply for 3rd party licence from the looks of it.

 

I agree with the gist of your post though, it would be good to get some modules from places other than US & EU. At this point I want more Russian / Soviet stuff, lots of it infact... the sim has precious few of those at the moment.

 

Although we are getting some aircraft from interesting places, Viggen can be argued to be one, and Razbam are working on a Super Tucano. If projects such as Tu-22M3 and JF-17 come to fruition, all the better! I'd like to see others like Cheetah, F-7, may be even Ching-kuo, as well as a few more Swedish jets.

 

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[asla36]

Not sure if it was mentioned, 80 pages is a lot...

 

But I am of the opinion that dcs could go more than just Russian built planes & US built planes. So...

 

How about the Indian Tejas, or the Chinese J-10 ( which is based off the LAVI ), I would love to see either of those two planes flyable!

And how exactly are you going to get the Chinese/Pakistanis or Indians to reveal in depth documentation on their fighters? An FC3 level bird, sure! But anything better than that is simply not possible.

 

Lets make an F-22 and F-35 while we're at it, then we will make a PAK FA to go with those! I just don't see the logic. I would be super grateful if you would take one for the team and get yourself executed for espionage, otherwise there is no way known to man that our interests overrule the military's.

 

I would also love to see these two awesome birds in DCS, but am not expecting anything that modern. Well, at least until about 30 years. Just the sad thing about how the establishment works.

[kotor633]

Hello dear RAZBAM team,

 

a fully flyable Module for the Tornado GR4 and/or Tornado IDS/ECR (Version ASSTA 3.1). That would be phenomenal!! :thumbup:

 

Greetings

[Sylosis]

I would add to the list, and this is purely just planes that I like... I mean they might not make sense in terms of availability of documentation, might not fit within the DCS environment, etc... whatever. I felt like mentioning them anyway:

 

- B-1 Lancer bombing plane.

- F-16, thought it has already been mentioned.

- F-104 StarFighter

- Mig-23 (also has already been mentioned).

- Mig-25

 

 

Other planes I find really cool are already in dev, so I'm not listing them (thinking of F-18 and F-14).

 

On a side note, I do love many of the FC3 planes (Mig-29 and Su-27 for instance) and would really love having modules of those that are more "complete" than the FC3 ones. I know it's probably not going to happen, but still, it would be nice.

[Automan]

Even if it was an US plane, still I think that the F-104G/J Starfighter is a perfect candidate for a new module:

-It served in more than 20 countries (and you can make happy a lot of people)

-It's multi-role (variety of missions)

-Has been employed in real combat by Taiwan against MiG-19 (wow effect, Razbam guys are doing just this MiG)

-Can be expanded towards more recent S - ASA version (plus longevity)

-IS A LEGEND OF RECORDS

[Sylosis]

Even if it was an US plane, still I think that the F-104G/J Starfighter is a perfect candidate for a new module:

-It served in more than 20 countries (and you can make happy a lot of people)

-It's multi-role (variety of missions)

-Has been employed in real combat by Taiwan against MiG-19 (wow effect, Razbam guys are doing just this MiG)

-Can be expanded towards more recent S - ASA version (plus longevity)

-IS A LEGEND OF RECORDS

 

And! It was not very reliable and named the "Widowmaker" for killing its own pilots ! XD

 

But indeed, it would really be a great addition to the other modules! :)

[Pasquale1986]

F-4 phantom

 

OV-10 Bronco

 

A-6 Intruder

 

Merry Christmas!

 

The Phantom seems to be off the List now :D

 

https://belsimtek.com/news/1785/

[asla36]

Party time!!! Now let's hope that we are not getting another "MiG-23"...

 

So glad, thank you for posting!!! WOOOOO!!!! I am having problems containing my joy! ;)

[Pasquale1986]

Party time!!! Now let's hope that we are not getting another "MiG-23"...

 

So glad, thank you for posting!!! WOOOOO!!!! I am having problems containing my joy! ;)

 

:thumbup: promising looking future for DCS i would say

[SaulKain]

After really enjoying the M-2000C, I would LOVE the D version. A dedicated striker Mirage.

 

[Vampyre]

The Phantom seems to be off the List now :D

 

https://belsimtek.com/news/1785/

 

Unless they eventually decide to do a Phantom other than the F-4E like, I don't know, An F-4J or F-4S.

[Robert31178]

Finally!! I can stop spam posting that I want a Phantom lol.....

[Tirak]

Unless they eventually decide to do a Phantom other than the F-4E like, I don't know, An F-4J or F-4S.

 

Navy Phantoms would be a money sink for whichever company tried it. The simple fact of the matter is that even among Phantom Phanatics, most people will only purchase one Phantom module, and the choice would heavily be skewed in favor of the most multirole capable. Because of its internal gun, and addition of precision guided weapons of greater variety and a targeting pod, the late series F-4E that has been announced would trump any Navy Phantom in terms of capability, bar carrier landings of course. Furthermore, since it would be released much later, it would be the Johnny Come Lately of modules, arriving after most people would have already purchased the F-4E. Because of this, you'd be looking at a significantly reduced customer base, meaning it would be a great deal of work, as the Phantom is a fairly complex aircraft, for fairly limited gain.

 

If the two modules were developed simultaneously by different companies, it would be a lose lose situation for the company, as they would be fighting over mostly the same customer base. A Phoreign Phantom might generate more revenue if an advanced version like the Terminator 2020 were selected, however again it runs into coming far too late, as a late series F-4E would bring most of the capability of a upgraded Phantom, and already be in most people's libraries.

 

RAZBAM clearly has a better plan, to do modules that compliment the Phantom, instead of trying to scrounge up the leftovers from after BSTs F-4E launch. By selecting airframes like the A-7 and A-6, they provide the perfect draw from customers interested in the Phantom era of aircraft, while providing a new and different experience.

 

The A-7 will be single seater, giving RAZBAM access to a very large customer pool only partially tapped by aircraft like the Phantom, and while some may see it as competing with the A-10, the vast majority will see things like the ground radar, heavy carry capacity, greater range and being more era appropriate to SEA style conflicts as more than enough to overcome any similarities of being a dedicated ground attack aircraft. Because the F-4E is now on the table, that makes the A-7 more desirable, especially if a SEA map is announced and released before or around the A-7 release.

 

The A-6 is exceedingly popular, and lets RAZBAM take advantage of that "Sweet Hollywood Money" That both HeatBlur and BST have already started to take advantage of with their F-14 and F-5 modules. It would be the first dedicated bomber to come out, and its host of interesting and unique systems would set it apart. Again, the release of the F-4E will enhance the draw for the A-6, as they existed in the same period of war, and pilots love creating proper sets.

 

Onto future unannounced modules, by capitalizing on another company doing the grunt work of taking on one of the most complex modules of that fighter 'era', it gives RAZBAM an easy opportunity to slip into some of the simpler modules for a quick cash in. Aircraft like the F-100, MiG-17, A-37 Supertweet and A-1 are all fairly uncomplicated modules in terms of avionics and flight modeling, but help fill in the SEA theater of operations, and are an opportunity to work on a less difficult to do module that they can still make a fairly good return on. Less complicated means less draw on resources, meaning a faster turn around, reducing cost in development, and maximizing profit. As these modules, for the most part, are not as popular as the more complex ones, absolute purchases would likely be lower than something like the A-6, but the reduced cost due to shortened development time could likely sway the bottom line to be more in line with their more complex modules.

 

Anyway, I didn't mean to go on this long. Long story short, doing another Phantom now that BST has taken on the late series F-4E would be a waste of money, and instead companies like RAZBAM can capitalize on the opening of a new theater and era and potentially bring in more money by complimenting the work of BST, rather than trying to compete with them.

[Prowler111]

Oh man!, now i want to compete....

[Tirak]

Oh man!, now i want to compete....

 

Well that'll be good for us, not so much for you guys though :lol:

[Prowler111]

Well that'll be good for us, not so much for you guys though :lol:

Well..there is so much you think you know..there is so much you actually don´t..

BUT

 

No worries, we are quite busy as it is currently..and i mean busy, to start a pissing contest with anyone

[asla36]

Well..there is so much you think you know..there is so much you actually don´t..

BUT

 

No worries, we are quite busy as it is currently..and i mean busy, to start a pissing contest with anyone

Could that be a hint at something even more amazing coming in the future!?!?

[Robert31178]

Thank you Tirak, I enjoyed the explanation, lots of forethought went into what you said, and it makes perfect sense to a consumer / aviation enthusiast.

 

~Rob

[DaveRindner]

Oh boy here we go again. OK I'll play.

 

1. F-16C Block 50/52+

2. AH-1W

3. SEPECAT Jaguar

4. Super Etendard

5. Mig-29SMT/K

6. Xian JH-7

7. Honda Jet