DCS : F4U-1 Corsair

[Art-J]

11 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Your limited resourses about? AI assets packs has builded by diferent teams (AI assets teams), and has none to do with a FF module develop team. 

Since we are posting in M3 section of the forum, discussing M3 product, I was referring to Japanese assets (namely armour, AAA and truck) that M3 themselves have been developing for Corsair since 2022 independently from ED and their work on Japanese assets.

How ED divides their teams between projects is off topic in this thread, I don't know why you brought it up.

[ESAc_flankercobra]

hace 15 horas, Silver_Dragon dijo:

Build a FF module has your problems, remember Octopus-G delayed the La-7 but need redome and remade part of your module to polish them.

The Marianas WW2 map has nothing to do with the M3 F-4U and M3 PTO assets pack, on fact, I think ED has waiting to release Marianas WW2 (free), with the ED PTO assets pack. The shame situation with the F6F, ED can release them as a alone module with any map or assets pack.

 

Como decía, claro que pueden sacar a la venta el Corsair sin que esté Marinas, la cuestión es si lo harán o no. Como tu comentas, lo suyo es que haya y exista un entorno donde poder encajarlo porque de esa manera maximizas las probabilidades de ventas. 

[Ala13_ManOWar]

7 minutes ago, ESAc_flankercobra said:

Como decía, claro que pueden sacar a la venta el Corsair sin que esté Marinas, la cuestión es si lo harán o no. Como tu comentas, lo suyo es que haya y exista un entorno donde poder encajarlo porque de esa manera maximizas las probabilidades de ventas. 

Flanker, this is the English forum section mate. Why you keep speaking Spanish? Everybody has the right to read and understand you, no matter you know we do speak Spanish, your messages aren't private to us but with everyone in here. And your concern about Marianas WWII map and ED's Japanese assets pack is shared with many others, so many people might be interested in reading you in English.

[ESAc_flankercobra]

hace 4 horas, Ala13_ManOWar dijo:

Flanker, this is the English forum section mate. Why you keep speaking Spanish? Everybody has the right to read and understand you, no matter you know we do speak Spanish, your messages aren't private to us but with everyone in here. And your concern about Marianas WWII map and ED's Japanese assets pack is shared with many others, so many people might be interested in reading you in English.

Porque es como mejor me expreso y hoy en día con todos los avances tecnológicos, se tarda poco en traducir un texto web.

 

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Because it is how I express myself best and nowadays with all the technological advances, it takes little time to translate a web text.

Edited Sunday at 03:01 PM by ESAc_flankercobra

[Silver_Dragon]

10 hours ago, Art-J said:

Since we are posting in M3 section of the forum, discussing M3 product, I was referring to Japanese assets (namely armour, AAA and truck) that M3 themselves have been developing for Corsair since 2022 independently from ED and their work on Japanese assets.

How ED divides their teams between projects is off topic in this thread, I don't know why you brought it up.

I talking about M3... on fact, all 3rd parties with have "assets packs" (Dekka, Razbam, M3, etc), has separated assets teams to build Ai units, outside from your FF modules develop teams.

Edited Sunday at 04:48 PM by Silver_Dragon

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, ESAc_flankercobra said:

Porque es como mejor me expreso y hoy en día con todos los avances tecnológicos, se tarda poco en traducir un texto web.

 

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Because it is how I express myself best and nowadays with all the technological advances, it takes little time to translate a web text.

 

Yeah, and nowadays everyone is used to people putting their own needs over other's .. who cares if you have to spend time translating my important post   

[Gunfreak]

I think we all should just be happy if they get the Corsair over the finish line.(which seems lie they might be doing sometime this year) we'll get to spend time crashing on the carrier. Trying to hit some Japanese tanks. 

I hope ED comes with infantry. As it would be very unsatisfactory if we never had the chance to bomb and strafe infantry. Or save some Marines. The island battles were mostly infantry battles. 

But that's for ED i think. 

[Ala13_ManOWar]

17 hours ago, ESAc_flankercobra said:

Porque es como mejor me expreso y hoy en día con todos los avances tecnológicos, se tarda poco en traducir un texto web.

 

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Because it is how I express myself best and nowadays with all the technological advances, it takes little time to translate a web text.

I know mate, language barrier is a bummer, but it takes little in both directions, takes little for the many to translate your posts, and takes little for you to translate them for the many. And in any case, it's just polite to do as Romans do when you're in Rome, you know  .
 

 

Whatever it is, has there been any other recent info? I'm eager for the Corsair like I didn't remember any other recent module. Last ED's newsletter talked about Marianas WWII map being release candidate "in time for your Corsairs"… Makes sense they release at about the same time!! 

[ESAc_flankercobra]

hace 18 minutos, Ala13_ManOWar dijo:

I know mate, language barrier is a bummer, but it takes little in both directions, takes little for the many to translate your posts, and takes little for you to translate them for the many. And in any case, it's just polite to do as Romans do when you're in Rome, you know  .
 

 

Whatever it is, has there been any other recent info? I'm eager for the Corsair like I didn't remember any other recent module. Last ED's newsletter talked about Marianas WWII map being release candidate "in time for your Corsairs"… Makes sense they release at about the same time!! 

No, si la el inglés no es problema..., ya ves que he adaptado el manual del Corsair, el Mustang, Spitty, los dos del P47 y el Hellcat; es más un tema de rapidez y como sé que a quien estaba citando tienen como primera lengua el español, pues no tenía mucho interés en ponerlo en la lengua de la "P.A.", cuestión de economizar tiempo. Y tampoco es cuestión de darle más vueltas, de hecho suelo traducir mis entradas de los foros cuando están fuera de la sección en español. 

Dicho ésto; lo último que se sabía era que estaban comprobando el modelo de vuelo por parte de ED y la compañía parece que ya ha dado el visto bueno comentando que está al caer el módulo, supongo y resalto lo de suponer, que ya depende de M3 cuándo sacarlo a la venta. Puede que esperen a que esté Marianas o a completar algún objeto "Ignacio".

 

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In theory ED was checking the flight model, if ED itself has already commented that it is ready, presumably the launch date depends on M3.

 

[ESAc_flankercobra]

hace 16 horas, Rudel_chw dijo:

 

Yeah, and nowadays everyone is used to people putting their own needs over other's .. who cares if you have to spend time translating my important post   

Cierto, de hecho mucha gente usa su tiempo para brindar la oportunidad a otros de poder conocer documentos que tal vez, por problemas de estudios no pudiera acceder a ellos.

 

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True, in fact many people use their time to provide the opportunity to others to learn about documents that perhaps, due to study problems, could not access them.

Nav docs

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AoLSUjmNognagbIlaHz47fElWOR-Rw

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AoLSUjmNognagbU5e2E_04kHJoXXPA

https://1drv.ms/b/c/da09a28d3952d282/Ef5vjF-UJBtAooEYLg4Wt7QBQy79iZmCZI2_ep6GMQjOMg?e=HrqE4i

 

 

Corsair docs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qFierXPLKD3EC8xS6hlLVpBX0yI2KtY/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-NfkyyrsLoki4iTHU6psICwjyEciiiBi/view?usp=sharing

Edited Monday at 09:40 AM by ESAc_flankercobra

[ESA_maligno]

Pagan WWII airfield

[Chewmann]

On 6/6/2025 at 5:29 PM, hannibal said:

i been trying to work on dropping bombs on P51 to try to get my head into upcoming corsair..

any specialties of corsair? if someone can help me with bombing in P51, much appreciated. im trying to follow air combat wing line bombing but cant lock on the method

I've been flying the P-47 instead of the Mustang to be "ready" for the release of the Corsair since it has the same engine.  

[Qcumber]

39 minutes ago, Chewmann said:

I've been flying the P-47 instead of the Mustang to be "ready" for the release of the Corsair since it has the same engine.  

That makes sense. I wonder how the F4U handles compared to the P-47 and P-51. 

[Hiob]

29 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

That makes sense. I wonder how the F4U handles compared to the P-47 and P-51. 

IIRC the humongous propeller is giving a ton of torque. So I'm expecting really bad response to coarse throttle treatment on the ground (maybe even in the air).

[Qcumber]

29 minutes ago, Hiob said:

IIRC the humongous propeller is giving a ton of torque. So I'm expecting really bad response to coarse throttle treatment on the ground (maybe even in the air).

That's what I have read too. Hence the difficulty landing in deck with sudden changes in throttle. The widdowmaker. 

I was wondering how it handles in general flight and dogfighting. 

 

[Hiob]

Assumingly it rolls much better in one direction than the other..... 

No idea though. By all accounts it has a reputation as an effective dogfighter. Good power to weight ratio and big control surfaces. ... but also some quirks in flight dynamics.
But this is all hearsay on my part.

 

I expect it to be more challenging to fly than the P-47.

[Qcumber]

4 hours ago, Hiob said:

Assumingly it rolls much better in one direction than the other..... 

Very good!

I'm really looking forward to flying it. 

 

 

[ricktoberfest]

7 hours ago, Hiob said:

IIRC the humongous propeller is giving a ton of torque. So I'm expecting really bad response to coarse throttle treatment on the ground (maybe even in the air).

A recent movie that featured the Corsair in Korea made mention that go arounds were extremely discouraged because slamming the throttle forward would spin you into the ground/water

[Qcumber]

57 minutes ago, ricktoberfest said:

A recent movie that featured the Corsair in Korea made mention that go arounds were extremely discouraged because slamming the throttle forward would spin you into the ground/water

The movie "Devotion"? 

 

[AG-51_Razor]

A good pilot never "slams" anything when making a control input. 

[Ghostrider 147]

9 hours ago, ricktoberfest said:

A recent movie that featured the Corsair in Korea made mention that go arounds were extremely discouraged because slamming the throttle forward would spin you into the ground/water

The Corsair indeed had a lot of torque from its giant propeller, but go-arounds were never, never discouraged. Pilots simply had to be gentle with the power and correct with rudder and all would be fine. Much better than plowing your Hog into a bunch of other aircraft parked on the deck (WWII and Korea carriers didn't have angled flight decks yet after all!)  

[Hiob]

8 hours ago, AG-51_Razor said:

A good pilot never "slams" anything when making a control input. 

generally, I would agree. But granted, if you are .8 sec. from impact, you don't give yourself 3 sec. to ease the throttle forward. Double so if you are an under age, under trained and over stressed rookie.

[Captain Orso]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

generally, I would agree. But granted, if you are .8 sec. from impact, you don't give yourself 3 sec. to ease the throttle forward. Double so if you are an under age, under trained and over stressed rookie.

Strawman argument. The pilot doesn't wave himself off. The landing officer does, and he's not going to wait until there is only 0.8 seconds before impact. He can see with enough time for the pilot to go around. Nobody said anything about 3 seconds to throttle up; another thing you made up. There is a wide range between slamming the throttle forward in 0.5 seconds and going from 30% to 100% throttle in 2 seconds.

Also, just because you are not immediately at 100% does not mean that there is no affect. With every inch of throttle movement, thrust is increasing. Slower motion than "slamming" means that torque is spread over the same period of time of the 30% -> 100% throttle motion. On the one side you argue that the power of the engine is so immense that you need 3 seconds to go to 100% throttle, but on the other hand you act like going to 60% in 1 second means nothing.

Also, I'm sure Corsair pilots trained to see what happens when you slam the throttle forward while flying at 8000 feet with plenty of time and altitude to recover from flipping the airframe over through sudden torque overload, the same as they trained stalls and spin recovery.

[Hiob]

11 minutes ago, Captain Orso said:

Strawman argument. The pilot doesn't wave himself off. The landing officer does, and he's not going to wait until there is only 0.8 seconds before impact. He can see with enough time for the pilot to go around. Nobody said anything about 3 seconds to throttle up; another thing you made up. There is a wide range between slamming the throttle forward in 0.5 seconds and going from 30% to 100% throttle in 2 seconds.

Also, just because you are not immediately at 100% does not mean that there is no affect. With every inch of throttle movement, thrust is increasing. Slower motion than "slamming" means that torque is spread over the same period of time of the 30% -> 100% throttle motion. On the one side you argue that the power of the engine is so immense that you need 3 seconds to go to 100% throttle, but on the other hand you act like going to 60% in 1 second means nothing.

Also, I'm sure Corsair pilots trained to see what happens when you slam the throttle forward while flying at 8000 feet with plenty of time and altitude to recover from flipping the airframe over through sudden torque overload, the same as they trained stalls and spin recovery.

Jeeze, calm down. We are just joking around. Obviously those numbers where completely made up on the spot.
And just a sidenote, rookies killing themselves by virtue of the massive torque reaction did happen. And another sidenote, the Corsair was not exclusively operated from carriers.

Edited Wednesday at 09:13 AM by Hiob

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Besides, were LSOs even used at the time?

I seem to recall the landing pattern we're so used to in Case I was actually a British invention that worked so well, the US Navy decided to adopt it