Oculus Rift with DCS World Discussion

[BigDuke6ixx]

I can't reply now because i don't try at this time, but if it's like VTOLVR on steam, i can use my touch and emulate the joystick. In fact in vr you grab the virtual joystick in cockpit with hand(touch), it's ask few hours to feel it. But for the moment i can't confirm if it's possible under DCS at this moment, i'm going to try this week.

 

Last time I try on DCS, just some type of button are pushable with vr, that's why i ask this question few post ago ;)

 

I understand some people don't like this, for them it's like a heresy to not use a real joystick, but for me in vr it's all or nothing with my headset and touchcontroller :D

 

Cya

 

 

 

Ok thanks, i going to try this week end ;)

 

We have a saying here in the UK which says ‘always use the right tool for the job’. I’ve tried the Touch controllers for flying and as expected they were complete rubbish.

[fael097]

oh it would be soooo nice if oculus sensors could track my hands instead, for pushing buttons in the cockpit it would be the best thing possible next to a physical cockpit with buttons and knobs in the right place

[Reflected]

I have lots of switches on my Stick and throttle, I have no problem finding them blindfolded. I glued a piece of paper on the "P" button so that I can find it while flying. Otherwise I just use the mouse. It's next to the stick. Very easy to find/ use. I never even considered using the hand controllers, that would be cumbersome.

[sirrah]

I have lots of switches on my Stick and throttle, I have no problem finding them blindfolded. I glued a piece of paper on the "P" button so that I can find it while flying.

Haha :D

I did exactly that with the scroll lock key, to prevent me from accidentally using it while searching for LCTRL-F11 view. (LCTRL-Scroll lock makes dcs crash.. at least it does on my pc)

[martinistripes]

Found a lot of threads discussing ASW but not a single one that told me what ASW stands for -can someone throw me a bone?

[RePhil]

is it possible for some one with a similar set-up post their settings or, PM me with them. Aurora R7 Intel Core i7-8700K CPU, 32GB ram Nvidia 1080TI Windows 10 Pro Oculus. I have tried almost all the suggestions here and on lowest or highest settings I cant get more than 45 FPS in the game. It used to be 125+ on opening screen now that is only 90. Could it be the Oculus new 2.0 causing the issue? Thanks for all and any help

[sirrah]

Found a lot of threads discussing ASW but not a single one that told me what ASW stands for -can someone throw me a bone?

Here's an explanation (with a nice tl;dr)

 

And this is an example of one of the issues DCS users experience when ASW is enabled:

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[fael097]

Found a lot of threads discussing ASW but not a single one that told me what ASW stands for -can someone throw me a bone?

 

I had this problem with a lot of acronyms while reading manuals and guides. I suggest people start using the full name of stuff more often

[dburne]

I had this problem with a lot of acronyms while reading manuals and guides. I suggest people start using the full name of stuff more often

 

I would heap rather type ASW than "Asynchronous SpaceWarp".

Google is a wonderful thing.

:smilewink:

[RePhil]

I tried to use DCS no oculus home as a test I know you cant play with out it on but you can load it and get head movement on opening screen if you move it around without head in HM goggles. Funny thing I get 175 FPS that way when Oculus home is running its only 90??.

Edited October 17, 2018 by RePhil

[Lensman]

I tried to use DCS no oculus home as a test I know you cant play with out it on but you can load it and get head movement on opening screen if you move it around without head in HM goggles. Funny thing I get 175 FPS that way when Oculus home is running its only 90??.

 

I guess that's because it's only being rendered to the monitor at the monitor resolution. When you put the Rift on it starts rendering at VR resolution.

[BigDuke6ixx]

I tried to use DCS no oculus home as a test I know you cant play with out it on but you can load it and get head movement on opening screen if you move it around without head in HM goggles. Funny thing I get 175 FPS that way when Oculus home is running its only 90??.

 

The system is designed to be optimal on 90FPS. Going higher is pointless.

[RePhil]

The system is designed to be optimal on 90FPS. Going higher is pointless.

I get that ok then why does it drop to 45FPS in game I have been told that's per eye and also that, that's for both eyes?

[BigDuke6ixx]

I get that ok then why does it drop to 45FPS in game I have been told that's per eye and also that, that's for both eyes?

 

You need to read up on how ASW works but essential its to keep the experience smooth.

[Kenta]

I get that ok then why does it drop to 45FPS in game I have been told that's per eye and also that, that's for both eyes?

 

 

I might not be 100% right with this. But basically it goes something like this.

 

 

If Oculus Rift software detects that your GPU can't draw 90 FPS in whatever game you are playing it locks the frames to 45 FPS and compensates with your CPU - meaning that the CPU computes the missing frames and throws them in, making everything appear smooth. Same technology is being used in LCD televisions. Some supposedly are 200Hz+. In reality they are not. Frames get computed and filled making the picture seem more fluid.

 

 

Hopefully I got it somewhat right. If not... someone please correct me.

[mariner3302]

My system used to be setup and run DCS fine without Oculus Home running. I used the tray tool option and running DCS with the admin rights. Now I have to have Home open for the Rift to see the game. The tracking works fine, just no picture in the Rift. I think it had something to do with the Skatezilla app which I love. Any thoughts or ideas? I don't know if I am taking a performance hit with Home open but I would rather it not.

[dburne]

Oculus ( either intentionally or unintentionally) disabled that trick of setting Oculus Home to run as admin and not have it running.

Now it is required to be running in order to get image in headset.

 

I myself have not seen any difference in performance either way.

[mariner3302]

Ah ok, it's not just me then! lol I haven't noticed any adverse performance either.

[birkatron]

Rift stuttering in game

 

Is anyone else getting high frequency stutter when sat in the cockpit?

I have been able to sort this by restarting DCS but it keeps happening.

[Precog]

Seems fine my end

[dburne]

So far everything rock solid on my end.

[GunnyCook]

would really like to be able to use touch controllers to move stick and throttle

[metzger]

would really like to be able to use touch controllers to move stick and throttle

 

Tried this with x-plane 11. Not possible to even fly a cessna reliably without phisical feedback. Fighting will be impossible bot a2a or a2g, helos absolutely no go. Not to say how long you can keep you hand in the air without resting it on something. Let aside you can't operate any of the hotas buttons. Really I don't see how this would be doable in dcs or any other fighting sim.

 

Was trying to use them for startup but keep hitting my hand in the hotas or other stuff around me, we are not there yet.

[Muskoka]

would really like to be able to use touch controllers to move stick and throttle

 

I fully agree, that's the "programming" direction all sims should be heading/leaning towards in the future, if they're interested in offering a true Vr experience. The problem is there's no suitable "hand controllers" available yet, for Dcs use. Yes, the touch controllers work great in X-Plane, and Flyinsides new sim, but those simulators aren't as demanding in "reaction time" as Dcs. You can't be "fiddling" around in the Dcs cockpit, the interactions with dials, and switches, needs to be accurate, precise, and fast, or your dead. :)

 

And whatever you end up using for interaction, it has to work with everything in that cockpit, meaning, you can't be using "something" to manipulate the stick, and "something else" for dials and switches. Everything in front of you "needs" to be manipulated with one controller, other than rudder of course.

 

I do very much look forward to the day that I can perhaps put on a pair of gloves, or something similar, that will allow me to "completely" control the aircraft in the Vr world. No mouse, no hotas, just my hands, a set of rudder pedals, and a mic for voice interaction. Looks like there's some offerings in the near future, I hope they work as well as projected/expectations.

 

And I'll add, they need to be affordable (gloves for example) , not the ridiculous price some are asking.

Edited November 1, 2018 by Muskoka

[metzger]

I fully agree, that's the "programming" direction all sims should be heading/leaning towards in the future, if they're interested in offering a true Vr experience. The problem is there's no suitable "hand controllers" available yet, for Dcs use. Yes, the touch controllers work great in X-Plane, and Flyinsides new sim, but those simulators aren't as demanding in "reaction time" as Dcs. You can't be "fiddling" around in the Dcs cockpit, the interactions with dials, and switches, needs to be accurate, precise, and fast, or your dead. :)

 

And whatever you end up using for interaction, it has to work with everything in that cockpit, meaning, you can't be using "something" to manipulate the stick, and "something else" for dials and switches. Everything in front of you "needs" to be manipulated with one controller, other than rudder of course.

 

I do very much look forward to the day that I can perhaps put on a pair of gloves, or something similar, that will allow me to "completely" control the aircraft in the Vr world. No mouse, no hotas, just my hands, a set of rudder pedals, and a mic for voice interaction. Looks like there's some offerings in the near future, I hope they work as well as projected/expectations.

 

In x-plane, how do you find the center of your yoke when using the touch, so you can correctly trim the aircraft ? I can't really find a way to precisely keep my hands so steady that the yoke is not moving and flying correctly seems almost impossible, landings are horrible, good luck keeping this AoA and flareing precisely. From my experience, it works anything but great in x-plane, it is cool to operate the cockpit, but flying is horrible, the hotas feels much better.