mattebubben Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 So basically, the radar will only serve to spot aircrafts BVR?? Yea the radar is for Search aswell as Ranging targets and to help with targeting (giving cues as how to fly to find/hit the target) . It can not guide weapons.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 22, 2016 ED Team Posted May 22, 2016 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2786181&postcount=280 комрады, F-5E, который был прототипом модели (серия 3), не может применять Маверики (см.ниже выдержку из переписки, без перевода, но думаю понятно): Q: Can we get a list of the Air to Air and Air to Ground ordnance the module will ship with? A: Currently we have. Air-to-air: - AIM-9P Air-to-ground: - Mk-82 bomb - Mk-82 Snakeye bomb - Mk-83 bomb - Mk-84 bomb - M117 bomb - CBU-52 cluster bomb - LAU-68 rocket launcher with different rockets - LAU-61 rocket launcher with different rockets (It is made instead LAU-3/-60, as we don’t have them now) - SUU-25 flare dispenser - GBU-12 laser guided bomb - MER-5E Multiple Ejector Rack with 5x Mk-82/-82 Snakeye bombs Other: - 275 gallon external fuel tank - 150 gallon external fuel tank - MXU-648 Travel Pod Also we plan to add AIM-9B (GAR-8 ) air-to-air missile. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
zerO_crash Posted May 22, 2016 Author Posted May 22, 2016 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2786181&postcount=280 Ah, so travel pod is getting added as well. Awesome Bignewy :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mattebubben Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Im just very curious what Aim-9P variants they are going to add. And i very much hope and beg them to add atleast 2 Aim-9P variants (one rear aspect and one all aspect) Since the Aim-9P4 and Aim-9P5 are used on F-5Es all over the world and has been since the early/mid 80s. (Aim-9P4 and P5 being the All aspect Aim-9P variants)
Schmidtfire Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 https://youtu.be/9F2ip7oWEKE?t=50s Cockpit view, live fire of cannons. Really cool to see those gas deflectors popping out!
Hadwell Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Does it have the AN/APQ-153 radar? If so, regardles of having a better airframe, makes it inferior to the mig-21 in so many ways... IDing targets, acceleration and speed, and having no rwr... aim-9p is all aspect, but I'm not sure that makes up for having only the mk1 eyeball and a radar that just shows raw bscan for sensors. If it has the an/apq-156 radar, cool. I know there are f5es with them. Not just the f20. Edited May 23, 2016 by Hadwell My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OxideMako Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Does it have the AN/APQ-153 radar? If so, regardles of having a better airframe, makes it inferior to the mig-21 in so many ways... IDing targets, acceleration and speed, and having no rwr... aim-9p is all aspect, but I'm not sure that makes up for having only the mk1 eyeball and a radar that just shows raw bscan for sensors. If it has the an/apq-156 radar, cool. I know there are f5es with them. Not just the f20. AN/APQ-159-3, no IFF IIRC. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2579659&postcount=614 Edited May 23, 2016 by OxideMako
QuiGon Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Does it have the AN/APQ-153 radar? If so, regardles of having a better airframe, makes it inferior to the mig-21 in so many ways... IDing targets, acceleration and speed, and having no rwr... aim-9p is all aspect, but I'm not sure that makes up for having only the mk1 eyeball and a radar that just shows raw bscan for sensors. If it has the an/apq-156 radar, cool. I know there are f5es with them. Not just the f20. It has a RWR, at least I've seen it in the trailer. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
WinterH Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 It has the RWR and APQ-159 radar, which is better than RP-22 Saphir. It won't have IFF though. Things going for Tiger : better situational awareness due to RWR, radar, and canopy, also better maneuverability. If it gets AIM-9P4 or P5, it will also have proper all aspect IR missiles. Also a proper lead computing gunsight with radar lock for dogfighting with cannons. Advantages going for the MiG, more air to air missiles available, and can use radar guided AAM. It is faster, accelerates better, climbs better. Also, I expect a well flown MiG will probably be able to gain advantage in verticle fighting, but we'll see. Of course, assuming that F-5 will release in an enjoyable state, and assuming MiG will be fixed to an enjoyable state. As it is, MiG feels much more "beta" than the day it was released unfortunately... Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
Madbrood Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 As it is, MiG feels much more "beta" than the day it was released unfortunately... I actually switched over to the standalone installer at the weekend with the intention of finally teaching myself to fly the MiG, and the activation broke... :( In any case, I'm actually really excited about this - preordering soon! i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
zerO_crash Posted May 23, 2016 Author Posted May 23, 2016 It has the RWR and APQ-159 radar, which is better than RP-22 Saphir. It won't have IFF though. Things going for Tiger : better situational awareness due to RWR, radar, and canopy, also better maneuverability. If it gets AIM-9P4 or P5, it will also have proper all aspect IR missiles. Also a proper lead computing gunsight with radar lock for dogfighting with cannons. Advantages going for the MiG, more air to air missiles available, and can use radar guided AAM. It is faster, accelerates better, climbs better. Also, I expect a well flown MiG will probably be able to gain advantage in verticle fighting, but we'll see. Of course, assuming that F-5 will release in an enjoyable state, and assuming MiG will be fixed to an enjoyable state. As it is, MiG feels much more "beta" than the day it was released unfortunately... Well the case seems to be that LN admitted how they learned a lot during the process of creating the Mig21bis, eventually it will be fixed me thinks. As for any other modules, I wouldn`t worry, the unfortunate situation of one should certainly not create a forecast about others (thinking of devs here, esp. that Belsimtek is pretty much part of ED). Don`t worry, I`m sure she will be a joy to fly ;) EDIT: Maybe we could even get some training bombs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
AG-51_Razor Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 It seems hard to believe that a fairly modern tactical jet would not have an IFF. I mean, it's not too far removed from a transponder, which it would have to have flying around in controlled airspace within the US anyway. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WinterH Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 It seems hard to believe that a fairly modern tactical jet would not have an IFF. I mean, it's not too far removed from a transponder, which it would have to have flying around in controlled airspace within the US anyway. It does have an IFF transponder but, not an interrogator as far as I know, that is what I have meant by does not have IFF, since that is what majority of people mean regarding IFF & DCS (i.e. can I play on airquake without team killing too much :)). Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
zerO_crash Posted May 23, 2016 Author Posted May 23, 2016 It seems hard to believe that a fairly modern tactical jet would not have an IFF. I mean, it's not too far removed from a transponder, which it would have to have flying around in controlled airspace within the US anyway. Well, it is justified by the fact that radar guided weapons had low hit ratios, that in addition to relatively inaccurate IFF (IFF even by today`s standards is something that`s used in addition to awacs, ground radar stations, etc....). In the times of F-5 you needed visual recognition in pretty much every case, as far as I know. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kev2go Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Well, it is justified by the fact that radar guided weapons had low hit ratios, that in addition to relatively inaccurate IFF (IFF even by today`s standards is something that`s used in addition to awacs, ground radar stations, etc....). In the times of F-5 you needed visual recognition in pretty much every case, as far as I know. only in nam that was common type of ROE. in a game ROE cant really be enforced. If you you know that there are no friendlies operating ahead head of you and the radar blips head towards you you can safely assume its baddie. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
Bersagliere81 Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 A noob question - why does it come with a radar if it can only fit sidewinders? | A-10C | MiG-21bis | Hawk T1.A | L-39 Albatros | F-5E | Ka-50 | Mi-8 | NTTR | CA | SU27 | M2000C | F-86F | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Mig 15 | Mig 19| Specs Intel i7-9700k msi GTX 2060 Gaming Z msi Z390 Gaming PLUS 16gb RAM Hotas Warthog
Hadwell Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 A noob question - why does it come with a radar if it can only fit sidewinders? ranging data for the automatic sight, and the missiles can get data from it too. all-weather finding people... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
QuiGon Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 I wonder why some people think, that the only purpose of a radar is to guide missiles and that aircraft with no radar guided missiles don't need one? Guiding missiles onto a target ist just ONE purpose of a radar (fire control radar). But it can also be used to find targets in the first place (search radar). Even our F-86 Sabre has a radar and its only purpose is to provide a gun solution. So the Tiger benefits from a radar in two ways: finding targets and provide gun solutions. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Bersagliere81 Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 I wonder why some people think, that the only purpose of a radar is to guide missiles and that aircraft with no radar guided missiles don't need one? Guiding missiles onto a target ist just ONE purpose of a radar (fire control radar). But it can also be used to find targets in the first place (search radar). Even our F-86 Sabre has a radar and its only purpose is to provide a gun solution. So the Tiger benefits from a radar in two ways: finding targets and provide gun solutions. I am new in flight sims and just wanted to know. That's the amswer i was looking for thank you | A-10C | MiG-21bis | Hawk T1.A | L-39 Albatros | F-5E | Ka-50 | Mi-8 | NTTR | CA | SU27 | M2000C | F-86F | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Mig 15 | Mig 19| Specs Intel i7-9700k msi GTX 2060 Gaming Z msi Z390 Gaming PLUS 16gb RAM Hotas Warthog
QuiGon Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 I am new in flight sims and just wanted to know. That's the amswer i was looking for thank you Alright then, welcome to DCS :) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Bacab Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 I wonder why some people think, that the only purpose of a radar is to guide missiles and that aircraft with no radar guided missiles don't need one? Guiding missiles onto a target ist just ONE purpose of a radar (fire control radar). But it can also be used to find targets in the first place (search radar). Even our F-86 Sabre has a radar and its only purpose is to provide a gun solution. So the Tiger benefits from a radar in two ways: finding targets and provide gun solutions. It may also be used to rally a tanker.
QuiGon Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 It may also be used to rally a tanker. Indeed, but not for our F-5 ;) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Eddie Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 It seems hard to believe that a fairly modern tactical jet would not have an IFF. I mean, it's not too far removed from a transponder, which it would have to have flying around in controlled airspace within the US anyway. Many 4th gen fighters did not have IFF interrogators either. The F-16C for example didn't have one initially. Almost every aircraft gen 3 and beyond has an IFF transponder, few have IFF interrogator capabilities.
112th_Rossi Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Bummer about the Mavericks. Hopefully they will be added later down the line?
OxideMako Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Bummer about the Mavericks. Hopefully they will be added later down the line? Likely not, as the radar display either did or did not have a TV feed. The display we are getting does not have that feature.
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