Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 9

[Shadow KT]

BTW, what is the gunner setting on the Huey gunners ? They don't seem to be the sharpest guys.

[docWilly]

My 2 cents: I´d enforce SRS use otherwise beeing kicked. BF is all about cooperation but coop does not work well without communication. There were times where alsmost everyone was on SRS. And please.....no...the ingame chat is not suitable for proper communication.

 

Now beat me for that statement :-)

[dedde01]

My 2 cents: I´d enforce SRS use otherwise beeing kicked. BF is all about cooperation but coop does not work well without communication. There were times where alsmost everyone was on SRS. And please.....no...the ingame chat is not suitable for proper communication.

 

Now beat me for that statement :-)

 

+1

[Dino Might]

Sometimes SRS just won't work on my machine, due to some user error or actual problem. I can't run discord with any other program using microphone, for instance.

 

We managed to do alright last night with just text chat, and we were constantly communicating. Of course SRS is tops, but sometimes it's not in the cards, and it's not a panacea that makes people want to communicate. Rather, your suggestion is just a filtering method to cull out people who may not want to communicate.

 

Given that I never see 51/51 on the server these days, that selectivity can only hurt the scenario, in my opinion.

[dedde01]

Sometimes SRS just won't work on my machine, due to some user error or actual problem. I can't run discord with any other program using microphone, for instance.

 

We managed to do alright last night with just text chat, and we were constantly communicating. Of course SRS is tops, but sometimes it's not in the cards, and it's not a panacea that makes people want to communicate. Rather, your suggestion is just a filtering method to cull out people who may not want to communicate.

 

Given that I never see 51/51 on the server these days, that selectivity can only hurt the scenario, in my opinion.

 

I think that in the official rounds the kick should be enabled. I have also seen people playing on the server for more than a week and still not joining SRS, and when I was doing GCI and asking them if they were in comms, they kept answering:" No sorry".

[Shadow KT]

People are driven away, because there is a lot of stuff "unregulated" in my opinion and it just turns into a snowball effect.

 

Anyway what is the point of having some randoms, flying with their heads off, just doing pointless stuff and dying, some of them even kill friendly units, because they can't be bothered to check

[amazingme]

Quality over quantity.. I agree.

[Ciribob]

People are driven away, because there is a lot of stuff "unregulated" in my opinion and it just turns into a snowball effect.

 

Anyway what is the point of having some randoms, flying with their heads off, just doing pointless stuff and dying, some of them even kill friendly units, because they can't be bothered to check

I'm sorry, but can you give an example?

 

Unregulated stuff? As long as you're not teamkilling or griefing in another way we're happy.

 

People are driven away by Red or blue typing in the chat to start, quite a few people give up then :)

 

Teamwork comes from practice and everyone will start as a lone wolf, and hopefully due to the way we've set it up, maps, Comms info etc, teamwork will (and does!!!) Build.

 

BlueFlag has been running for years now, in various guises and will continue for years more with exceptional teamwork from various groups :)

 

As I said earlier, you haven't really seen BF at it's finest until you've participated in a "real" round. We've just had trouble being able to put one on in a while! :)

 

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[firmek]

I think that in the official rounds the kick should be enabled. I have also seen people playing on the server for more than a week and still not joining SRS, and when I was doing GCI and asking them if they were in comms, they kept answering:" No sorry".

Probably I'll get a lot of flames going on me because of being fully open but the SRS is not mandatory. Consider there are people that for whatever reason can't or don't want to use it. I don't think they should be eliminated.

 

For anyone that actually wants to have a good overview there are already tools to find out what is going on, which location needs support, where the fight is going. PAC intel, the gadget website and the spawn list are a great source of information.

 

Don't draw a conclusion and equality mark that if someone is not on SRS he is not playing for the objectives and vice versa that those that are on SRS are not having an airquake in a middle of mountains where no targets are.

 

Frankly speaking, before the SRS times I had seen a lot of coorination between the lone-wolfs just on the chat. Nowdays it seems really seldome which probably is contributes to more uncoordinated game. It doesn't really requires a lot for a transport heli pilot to figure out which location is potentially going to be closed soon, report on chat that he is going to fly troops there and from time to time check the status with others if the location is safe to land.

[*Rage*]

If SRS is hard to use TS is easy. Really theres little excuse for not being on one or the other. At least when the real round kicks off.

 

Honestly your doing yourself a disservice by not being on comms with everyone else. You miss out on a lot.

Edited January 18, 2018 by ///Rage

[Shadow KT]

I'm sorry, but can you give an example?

 

Unregulated stuff? As long as you're not teamkilling or griefing in another way we're happy.

 

People are driven away by Red or blue typing in the chat to start, quite a few people give up then :)

 

Teamwork comes from practice and everyone will start as a lone wolf, and hopefully due to the way we've set it up, maps, Comms info etc, teamwork will (and does!!!) Build.

 

As I said earlier, you haven't really seen BF at it's finest until you've participated in a "real" round. We've just had trouble being able to put one on in a while! :)

 

 

Maybe, I was misunderstood. By "unregulated", I did not mean team killing or griefing. I ment other topics that we have already discussed here, such as the aircraft and so on.

 

Yea, there are people who are new and do try, we help them and guide them how to get on SR and so on, I believe we do have a lot of tolerance towards people on the server (or at least I believe I do and most of us as well), in the end, if we can make that parson useful and help him get better, he will be a greater asset for the team.

 

There are also a lot of people such as the one who you mentioned who get "confused" by the singing up system. I wasn't that experienced back then and SR was just breaking trough. Team speak was the main comms platforms.

 

I have participated in "real" rounds. Rounds 8 and 9, I still remember for how long we defended out last 3 airfields at Tbilisi for weeks (or it was at least a week and a bit). I wasn't that experienced back then and SR was just breaking trough. Team speak was the main comms platforms.

 

Maybe the problem is that is not a "real" round.

 

 

Probably I'll get a lot of flames going on me because of being fully open but the SRS is not mandatory. Consider there are people that for whatever reason can't or don't want to use it. I don't think they should be eliminated.

 

For anyone that actually wants to have a good overview there are already tools to find out what is going on, which location needs support, where the fight is going. PAC intel, the gadget website and the spawn list are a great source of information.

 

Don't draw a conclusion and equality mark that if someone is not on SRS he is not playing for the objectives and vice versa that those that are on SRS are not having an airquake in a middle of mountains where no targets are.

 

Frankly speaking, before the SRS times I had seen a lot of coorination between the lone-wolfs just on the chat. Nowdays it seems really seldome which probably is contributes to more uncoordinated game. It doesn't really requires a lot for a transport heli pilot to figure out which location is potentially going to be closed soon, report on chat that he is going to fly troops there and from time to time check the status with others if the location is safe to land.

 

Yeah, there are some of these people, but they are not more than 15% if you ask me. At the end of the day, this is not a SP mission. It is a MP Campaign, you need to work with other people, and the easiest way is trough voice comms.

 

I've even though about the idea: what if the server had a password and the forum thread link displayed in the server description (obviously that means that the OP and the PDF file have to be updated adequately), so you know that the person has read what is the server about.

 

Not some random, no header, who joins in, has no idea what is he doing flies for a bit and then quits and never comes back, because he thinks the server is stupid and he is just getting killed.

Edited January 18, 2018 by Shadow KT

[dedde01]

Probably I'll get a lot of flames going on me because of being fully open but the SRS is not mandatory. Consider there are people that for whatever reason can't or don't want to use it. I don't think they should be eliminated.

 

For anyone that actually wants to have a good overview there are already tools to find out what is going on, which location needs support, where the fight is going. PAC intel, the gadget website and the spawn list are a great source of information.

 

Don't draw a conclusion and equality mark that if someone is not on SRS he is not playing for the objectives and vice versa that those that are on SRS are not having an airquake in a middle of mountains where no targets are.

 

Frankly speaking, before the SRS times I had seen a lot of coorination between the lone-wolfs just on the chat. Nowdays it seems really seldome which probably is contributes to more uncoordinated game. It doesn't really requires a lot for a transport heli pilot to figure out which location is potentially going to be closed soon, report on chat that he is going to fly troops there and from time to time check the status with others if the location is safe to land.

 

Yes, I know that.

I first joined this server when round 8 was running, and I wasn't capable of speaking with proper terminology in the radio, but I didn't give up: I installed the radio, the first few times I was only in "receive mode":lol: doing things passively. Now, after not so much time, I am doing mostly the GCI for blues, taking decision and coordinating the team... u can't go so far if u never take a choice like mine.

 

I think that what u've said about the gadget page ecc... is true, but u can't live only of supposition in an official round. That thing, can be good only between the rounds, then it's gonna become difficult, especially for a GCI that has to coordinate things.

[dedde01]

Yeah, there are some of these people, but they are not more than 15% if you ask me. At the end of the day, this is not a SP mission. It is a MP Campaign, you need to work with other people, and the easiest way is trough voice comms.

 

I've even though about the idea: what if the server had a password and the forum thread link displayed in the server description (obviously that means that the OP and the PDF file have to be updated adequately), so you know that the person has read what is the server about.

 

Not some random, no header, who joins in, has no idea what is he doing flies for a bit and then quits and never comes back, because he thinks the server is stupid and he is just getting killed.

+1

[dedde01]

Reporting @2150Z massive server lag.

Details:

I was doing GCI for blue side. Server started lagging, then my map view freezed, except for 3x M4 soldier that began moving from ambrolauri FARP in 3 different direction like CRAZY (below the ground at -14000 feet and 750knots:lol::lol::thumbup:). They were the only thing moving on the screen :).

Now (@2157Z) I am trying to join again the server after I disconnected because my Map was still freezing even the server ended lagging, and I wasn't also able to change GCI slot. Now I can't enter server (waiting after I hit the join button in the loading page):cry:

 

Like every time, server isn't crashed:mad::cry:

[Ciribob]

Server had hung - but in an interesting way where you can try to connect to it, so its kinda running, but its not responding.

 

Restarted :)

 

Thanks for reporting!

[dedde01]

Server had hung - but in an interesting way where you can try to connect to it, so its kinda running, but its not responding.

 

Restarted :)

 

Thanks for reporting!

 

Like everytime, I'm gonna guess... of course no crash no log:megalol::cry::cry:

[Rhinozherous]

Maybe a dumb question, but i got the mi8 and started training in it offline. But it would be nice to fly it in mp at some point. What can i do in blueflag with this awesome russian air-lokomotive?

 

As far as i know, supply runs to bases. Is it possible to do rescue missions? Is this for any good?

[lemoen]

Maybe a dumb question, but i got the mi8 and started training in it offline. But it would be nice to fly it in mp at some point. What can i do in blueflag with this awesome russian air-lokomotive?

 

As far as i know, supply runs to bases. Is it possible to do rescue missions? Is this for any good?

 

 

Blue Flag runs CTLD so the helos are used to take repair crates to FARPS and Airbases, to transport troops to FARPS, airbases and fuelbases in order to capture them and to erect base defenses (IR SAM troops and SA-6 sites). In short the helos are an integral part of blue flag, your team cannot win without them. Mi8 is only on red team so if you join, join red. Blue has Gazelle and Huey, Red has Huey, Ka-50 and Mi8.

[Shadow KT]

Are you sure that Blue doesn't have the Hip ?

[-Painter-]

Are you sure that Blue doesn't have the Hip ?

Affirmative.

[Rhinozherous]

Blue Flag runs CTLD so the helos are used to take repair crates to FARPS and Airbases, to transport troops to FARPS, airbases and fuelbases in order to capture them and to erect base defenses (IR SAM troops and SA-6 sites). In short the helos are an integral part of blue flag, your team cannot win without them. Mi8 is only on red team so if you join, join red. Blue has Gazelle and Huey, Red has Huey, Ka-50 and Mi8.

 

Thank you! So it seems the reds have a new stuff hauler soon.

[RedBat07]

So it seems the reds have a new stuff hauler soon.

 

 

 

Nice to hear!

 

 

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[dedde01]

Reporting @1548Z server lag and client crash :(

[Nooch]

Admin please give us DDM sensors on the Mirage. It is already disatvantaged by the very low number of missiles it can carry...

[Ciribob]

Update

 

TacView is totally disabled now on the server but it's looking like Harrier's may be the culprit of some of the crazy lag that happens every now and then...

 

We'll keep investigating but likely we'll have to wait for 2.5

 

Small update at next restart - AI interceptors added for a few bases, I recommend you try not to trigger EWR :)

 

Small surprises at Gelendzik and Sukhumi Sam site.

 

Map is now 2.5 ready for whenever it drops, all positions tweaked :thumbup:

 

Also congratulations to Blue for a hell of a push back from the corner! well done!

 

Kill messages are also OFF

Edited January 21, 2018 by Ciribob