Planned Aircraft

[Silver_Dragon]

Yup.

 

Silver Dragon's list is cool, but most of that stuff I won't see in DCS for decades based on the current rate of development.

 

Here is what I might expect in the next 4 years. I won't go into the debates about whether to count three of them as WW2, so they are in italics.

 

ED:

Spitfire Mk IX

Me-262

P-47D

B-17 (AI only or flyable? We don't know yet)

 

Only AI.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2936461&postcount=676

 

 

And I've read that Leatherneck has planned the F-4U and Okinawa map, but I haven't seen official confirmation for it. There could be more I haven't thought of...

 

First appears a year ago on SteamDB

https://steamdb.info/app/223750/dlc/

 

and after confirmed by Leatherneck

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157420

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166168

[OutOnTheOP]

The B-25 would not be that out of place as it flew with the RAF 2 TAF.

 

 

You're correct, it would not be inappropriate. I just think the A-20, A-26, or B-26 would be *more* appropriate, both in the numbers used by then, and their superior performance giving them better chances in online play.

 

I will admit that the 75mm-armed B-25s would be great for anti-shipping when Pacific theater eventually comes along, but I think the broader roles and proliferation of the A-20, or the vastly superior aerodynamic performance and long service life of the A-26 would make them (in my opinion) better selections for development.

 

The A-20 and A-26 are reputed as handling "like fighters", making them a bit more survivable. They are 25% and 30% faster than a B-25, respectively. A-26, despite being rather smaller, carried twice the bomb load of the B-25. Also keep in mind that the B-25 is a 6-man crew, while A-20 and A-26 are 3 man crews: this means the A-20 or -26 can be operated by a single player with less "cheats" / workarounds, automation, or seat-jumping.

[OutOnTheOP]

Yup.

P-40F (for how long has this thing been in preorder status???)

 

 

Yep. That and a few other disappointments (Hawk, anyone?) are why I will no longer pre-order anything. I have grown very jaded about DCS releases. I will wait until it's out, there are reviews up on youtube, and the bugs are mostly worked out.

 

So, like... three years after release, at the average rate of debugging.

[firmek]

Overall, The WWII period in DCS is:

1. Normandy Map

Not only the map itself but also ground, land and probably naval units.

2. Modules:

Already available:

- Fw 190 D-9

- Bf 109 K-4

- P-51D

Released in 2016

- Spitfire LF Mk. IX

- P-40F Kitty hawk

Probably released relatively soon:

- Spitfire Mk XIV

- F-4U Corsair

 

And more planned in the future. Just roughly with new Normandy map there are going to be 5 airplanes at the start and possibly 7 soon afterwards.

Considering full fidelity modules (not counting FC3) and excluding trainers, from other periods there are 6 planes and 4 helicopters. Those in total are from 1'st, 2'nd, 3'd and 4'th gen while the Caucasus and current availability of AI units is mostly tailored towards 1980+ scenarios.

 

The overall package of modules, map, AI units from the same era has much bigger value than each of the components separately. Thinking about it is quite interesting as comparing to the other periods, the WWII in DCS will be the most complete one and will provide the most consistent experience.

[Jaktaz]

It's not like I'm interested in a rare Emil version instead of a proper 109E, but T model was built indeed. When it was obvious Graf Zepellin carrier wouldn't ever be in service naval features were disassembled and 109T operated as regular long range fighters in Norway. It wasn't the only example, Ju-87R, a B model with drop tanks capacity for long range, was used in North Africa. Without carrier equipment it looked like a regular B model though, but Afrika Korps' Stukas pics showing drop tanks reveal the model.

 

 

S!

 

That's very interesting, where can I read about the T's operating in Norway?

[Silver_Dragon]

Overall, The WWII period in DCS is:

1. Normandy Map

Not only the map itself but also ground, land and probably naval units.

2. Modules:

Already available:

- Fw 190 D-9

- Bf 109 K-4

- P-51D

Released in 2016

- Spitfire LF Mk. IX

- P-40F Kitty hawk

Probably released relatively soon:

- Spitfire Mk XIV

- F-4U Corsair

 

Incorrect count and year....

-P-40F has not release on 2016, has on plans to release on Q1/Q2 2017 by VEAO

-F-4U has not "planned" to 2017, LNK actualy has none put pics of external model or cockpit on progress, can be on 2018/19, after F-14 project. And Of course Iwo Jima Map with AI proper pacific unit and a unknown Japanese aircraft (AM-6 zero?)

 

Missing:

- ED on progress P-47 Thunderbolt and Me262. And Normandy map extension on the future and future modules.

- Ju-87 on plans by Polychop.

- I-16 type 24 on progress by OctopusG

- The long VEAO list of on progress and planned modules.

And more....

Edited January 11, 2017 by Silver_Dragon

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

as others here, i also think, that before visiting other theaters, dcs should focus on the current timeframe and front. im not talking about sticking to 1944 only, but mid to late war western front. (although, i would sell a kidney for a 109-F4).

 

i would rather have one scenario which can be considered as at least partially complete with lots of content and aircraft, than a couple of scenarios which dont blend together at all..speaking of pacific for example.

 

i think, that after the current announced planeset by ED, best would be to develop 1 twin engine attack aircraft for each side. that would give us lots of opportunities offline and especially online. cause i fear, that as long as bombers remain AI, people will not really care and "waste" ammunition on them, even if the mission builders create something immersive. i have seen that in other sims, where people just dont care because the bombers are AI.

but on the same server, the very same mission, when the same people all of a sudden saw a bomber formation flown by players, that was when all the fun began. people all of a sudden like to give escorts, and the opposing side actually begins to attack the bombers. i think, even the most detailed AI models will not be able to give us that...so my 2c, remain on the western front, keep improving that, and hopefully we will see twin engines arise as well.

[Krupi]

as others here, i also think, that before visiting other theaters, dcs should focus on the current timeframe and front. im not talking about sticking to 1944 only, but mid to late war western front. (although, i would sell a kidney for a 109-F4).

 

i would rather have one scenario which can be considered as at least partially complete with lots of content and aircraft, than a couple of scenarios which dont blend together at all..speaking of pacific for example.

 

i think, that after the current announced planeset by ED, best would be to develop 1 twin engine attack aircraft for each side. that would give us lots of opportunities offline and especially online. cause i fear, that as long as bombers remain AI, people will not really care and "waste" ammunition on them, even if the mission builders create something immersive. i have seen that in other sims, where people just dont care because the bombers are AI.

but on the same server, the very same mission, when the same people all of a sudden saw a bomber formation flown by players, that was when all the fun began. people all of a sudden like to give escorts, and the opposing side actually begins to attack the bombers. i think, even the most detailed AI models will not be able to give us that...so my 2c, remain on the western front, keep improving that, and hopefully we will see twin engines arise as well.

 

I have to agree with all of that, now we know VEAO plan on doing a mossie :D what for the axis side JU88?

 

Of course VEAO have a Lancaster planned which would blow me away.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

i would love to have a bf110 on dcs level...or maybe a bf410. ju88 would be great too...the difference for me personally though...while i would buy a ju88 to support, i wouldnt really fly it, whereas i would definitely jump into a 110...

[msalama]

I'd definitely buy a Biffer 110, a Ju-88 and a He-111 even. Plus a B-25, an A-20 and every single heavy anyone cares to model. Plus a carpload of other attack / bomber planes too numerous to list 8)

 

EDIT: And the IL-2 of course. Would buy a well-modelled Sturmovik IMMEDIATELY.

Edited January 11, 2017 by msalama

[MAD-MM]

Someone Said HS-129 over the Normandy yea...:D

(what you don't want it cry quiet under your Bed)

After DCS grow in looong small steps would consider more BF-110 and a RAF Mossi but we serious lacking still of some time lined Fighter like FW-190A Tempest (Krupis Brick Typhoon) and some 109 G Variant and the Thunderbolt what was more common in 1944 (Still have my doubts there was any 110 Fighter in daylight operation 1944 left)

Edited January 11, 2017 by MAD-MM

[Hiromachi]

With inclusion of twin engine multi crew machines (A-20, Bf-110, Me-410, Ju-88 or my favorite, Arado 234) there would have to be given consideration to multi-crew operations, particularly for gunners but not only. Bombardier or navigator roles would be interesting as well, if we of course go for full scale simulation - which I consider DCS is. No compromise on reality and history.

[Krupi]

I was going to mention the 110 however it doesn't really fit Normandy does it?

 

I thought it was replaced by Fw190G or was that more east front?

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

I was going to mention the 110 however it doesn't really fit Normandy does it?

 

I thought it was replaced by Fw190G or was that more east front?

 

if you want one, dont tell them Krupi ;)

[DefaultFace]

+110 ;)

 

also we don't even have the map yet so who cares where it fits :P

[flare2000x]

+ Mosquito! That would be fun!

[msalama]

+ Mosquito! That would be fun!

 

 

...AAAAAAND a Mossie of course. Day 1 buy for me.

[Kaiser]

Есть ли в планах He 111?

[saburo_cz]

Flyable Fw 190A-8, one day?

 

Интересно, 190А-8 будет летательным со временем, или так и останется только для АИ?

Он сразу будет летабом. Парни, это будет лучшая кабина Fw-190!

[DefaultFace]

Anyone who can translate that better? Google says something about the 190 wearing summer clothes and a great cabin?

 

Edit: from the follow up posts it seems the 190 will be flyable? Coyote is talking about a version with 4x20mm and 2x13mm mgs?

Edited August 26, 2018 by DefaultFace

[saburo_cz]

for while i was not sure if it was irony or not, but according this

Версия пока будет базовая а8, без всяких пока там R модификаций. Это четыре 20 мм пушки и два 13 мм пулемета. Штатный пилон под фюзеляжем.

 

A-8 is on the way, no one said when or if it be full fidelity module on not, but it seem to be clear that A-8 will come someday :thumbup:

[Angelthunder]

I know the ED newsletter said other aircraft were coming to the Normandy map that includes the A-20 Havoc,but is it going to be a AI only model or a full blown flyable aircraft like there planning with the DH Mosquito.

[DD_Fenrir]

The A-20 currently is slated to be AI only.

[Angelthunder]

The A-20 currently is slated to be AI only.

That sucks:cry:I hope they eventually make one someday. I also would like to see the Martin B-26 Marauder as AI too since it also saw action in Normandy.

[DD_Fenrir]

An AI B-26 is included in schedule for units to be part of the expanded WW2 asset pack.