white boxes on most aircraft after most recent update

[Ironhand]

All very puzzling... Unfortunately I'm at work. Hmmm... Wonder if I dare install DCS on my work machine... At least I'd have something to do, when things are slow...

 

...

 

There's no consistency as to why some liveries have these boxes and others don't.

Oh there's a consistency. It's just that we don't have all the pieces identified yet.

 

Nealius, can you upload a sample LUA of a livery that's OK and one that's broken?

Edited November 12, 2016 by Ironhand

[Scooternutz]

Seems like an issue with just the side numbers.

[Blaze]

No it's an issue with any material that uses empty texture. I had it in my cockpit that I used empty as the base for canopy scratches and it was all white.

 

Try a windows search in your base DCS folder for empty.tga and delete all instances, including zip folders. Do the same for your Saved Games folder.

[Nealius]

I'll just copy/paste the Mi-8 luas.

 

RF Army Standard No problems

 

livery = {

{"mi_8_tex1", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true};

{"mi_8_tex1", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true};

 

{"mi_8_tex2", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true};

{"mi_8_tex2", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true};

 

{"mi_8_tex3", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_3",true};

{"mi_8_tex3", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_3_spec",true};

 

{"mi_8_tex4", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_4",true};

{"mi_8_tex4", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_4_spec",true};

 

 

{"EVU", 0 , "evu_texture", true};

 

 

 

---- БОРТОВЫЕ НОМЕРА

 

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - в районе воздухозаборников двигателей

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - на борту под воздухозаборниками двигателей

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - в центре корпуса на борту

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"mi_8_bort_number",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"mi_8_bort_number",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",true}; --

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"mi_8_bort_number",true}; --

 

 

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - у корня хвостовой балки

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение -на хвостовой балке с левой стороны

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; -- трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - на хвостовой балке с правой стороны

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; -- дополнительный трехзначный бортовой номер. расположение - по середине хвостовой балке с правой стороны

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",true}; --

 

 

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; -- место под трехзначный регистрационный номер. расположение - на хвостовой балке перед горизонтальным оперением

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"Number REG",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"Number REG",true}; --

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",true}; --

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"Number REG",true}; --

 

}

name = " RF Army Standard"

name_ru = "ВВС России (стандартная)"

countries = {"RUS"}

 

-- custom_args =

-- {

-- [457] = 0.0, -- EVU on

-- }

 

 

RF Army Standard (Weathered) Broken

 

livery = {

{"mi_8_tex1", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_tex1", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

 

{"mi_8_tex2", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_tex2", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

 

{"mi_8_tex3", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_3",false};

{"mi_8_tex3", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_3_spec",false};

 

{"mi_8_tex4", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_4",false};

{"mi_8_tex4", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_4_spec",false};

 

 

 

{"EVU", 0 , "evu_texture", false};

{"EVU", 2 , "evu_texture_spec", false};

 

 

 

 

-- Numbers Large On Engine

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_ENGINE_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Small Below Engine

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Large Below Exhaust / Middle

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"mi_8_bort_number.bly",false};

 

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_1",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_1_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BORT_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"mi_8_bort_number.bly",false};

 

-- Numbers Medium Forward Section of Tailboom

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_2_1_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Medium Rightside Above Doppler Radar

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_1_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Medium Leftside Above Doppler Radar

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_2_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Medium Leftside of Tailboom ( before Stabilizer)

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_BALKA_1_3_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

-- Numbers Small ( before Stabilizer)

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_001", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_010", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", 0 ,"mi_8_tex_2",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", 2 ,"mi_8_tex_2_spec",false};

{"mi_8_SMALL_BALKA_NUMBER_100", DECAL ,"empty",false};

 

 

}

name = "RF Army Standard (Weathered)"

countries = {"RUS"}

 

custom_args =

{

[457] = 0.1, -- EVU off

}

 

 

 

The former has a totally empty livery folder except for the description.lua. The latter has .dds files and an "empty.tga" file.

[Blaze]

In the latter, delete the 2 texture files and set the empty instances to true in the descripton.lua

[Blaze]

When searching for empty.tga make sure you include zipped folders.

 

[Nealius]

That did it! Thanks!

[Scooternutz]

I used Notepad ++ and replaced every word in the description Luas from empty to empty.png and it worked. You can replace all with the search tool.

[Blaze]

Yeah, that's more destructive editing though, and when the next update comes out all of your modified description.luas will get replaced with the non-edited ones. So better to just delete the empty.tga that's causing the problem, since it's not used by DCS anymore in favor of empty.png.

[Nealius]

Simply deleting the file results in the white box being replaced by DCS's green missing texture. It does not solve the issue.

[kdc]

Hi Blaze, just deleted empty.tga files from 1.5.5 stable, all back to normal , time for testing, thank you ))))

[FalconPlot16]

 

i got similar problem look at engine

[Mustang]

F-15C Ferris skin is affected by this

 

[davewhite]

Hi all, I had the exact same problem and frustration.

 

Please follow Blaze's advice and make sure that every empty.tga file is deleted even the ones in zip files as per Blaze's screenshot above.

 

I had one that was hiding in a zip file from a custom livery that I missed. Only when I included zip files in my search did I find it and this one empty.tga file caused the other aircraft (including stock ones) to display the empty boxes.

 

Hope you get yours sorted.

 

Thanks Blaze!

[Winston 60]

 

i got similar problem look at engine

 

I viewed all the A-10 skins and now all the skins with detail or insignia on the rear of the engine nacelles have this new bug.

 

[SkateZilla]

 

i got similar problem look at engine

 

I viewed all the A-10 skins and now all the skins with detail or insignia on the rear of the engine nacelles have this new bug.

 

 

 

 

Separate Issue and Already reported

[Winston 60]

Separate Issue and Already reported

:thumbsup:

[USSR_Rik]

Gentlemen, please give me actual link to some livery with this (white rectangles) bug.

[Blaze]

Here I made 2 different ways to test it. One is just the old empty.tga that goes in TempTextures where the new empty.png is. Place it in there, DCS will use the .tga instead but with no alpha channel so you get a plane white box on bort numbers set to empty in description.lua.

 

Also made a test version of P-51D Bare Metal livery with empty set to false in description.lua and empty.tga included in folder as some livery artists do. There also, you will get the same effect.

 

Also I didn't make one but even one present in a zip file of textures will do the same thing.

empty.zip

Bare Metal TGA test.zip

[USSR_Rik]

I don't see issues in 2.0.4.59188.134 with this "Bare Metal TGA test" livery.

ADDED. Ah, correct -this bud not exists in 2.0.4. Appears only 1.5.5 user release.

 

Some explanation. Bug is already fixed in our internal version. Now I want to test this fix on several different custom liveries, which have these white boxes in Open Alpha.

Edited November 24, 2016 by USSR_Rik

[Justificus]

I don't see issues in 2.0.4.59188.134 with this "Bare Metal TGA test" livery.

 

Some explanation. Bug is already fixed in our internal version. Now I want to test this fix on several different custom liveries, which have these white boxes in Open Alpha.

 

How do we go about trying out your test fix? Is that what is linked to in your sig? Thanks.

[SkateZilla]

How do we go about trying out your test fix? Is that what is linked to in your sig? Thanks.

 

Internally Means in Dev Builds, He's testing it on a wider spectrum of Liveries on his end..

 

I don't see issues in 2.0.4.59188.134 with this "Bare Metal TGA test" livery.

 

Some explanation. Bug is already fixed in our internal version. Now I want to test this fix on several different custom liveries, which have these white boxes in Open Alpha.

 

Basically any User Made Liveries that used Empty.TGA to remove Borts or Decal Layers (F-15C) had this problem,

 

ie all the Liveries in the F-18C/VSN Mod etc etc.

[HungaroJET]

F-15C Ferris skin is affected by this

 

Tell me if this not works to you Mustang.

I am already corrected this bug (and hundreds more) in the internal nightly-dev ver. 2.1.0.56261 2 months ago.

I do not understand why this problem (and the similars such as that white-box-bugs) still persist.

 

Ferris Scheme description.lua:

 

livery = {

{"f15nose", 0 ,"f15_nose_ferris",false};

{"f15nose", 3 ,"f15_decol_empty",true};

{"f15bottom", 0 ,"f15_bottom_ferris",false};

{"f15bottom", 3 ,"f15_decol_empty",true};

{"f15centr", 0 ,"f15_centr_ferris",false};

{"f15wingl", 0 ,"f15_wing_l_ferris",false};

{"f15wingl", 3 ,"f15_decol_empty",true};

{"f15wingr", 0 ,"f15_wing_r_ferris",false};

{"f15stab", 0 ,"f15_stab_v_ferris",false};

{"f15stab", 3 ,"f15_decol_empty",true};

--{"f15numbers", 0 ,"f15_numbers_ferris",false};

{"f15numbers", 0 ,"f15_decol_empty",true};

{"pilot_F15_patch", 0 ,"pilot_F15_patch_65A_sqdn",true};

{"pilot_F15_00_body", 0 ,"pilot_f15_00_a",true};

{"f15PTB", 0 ,"f15_PTB_ferris",false};

}

--countries = {"USA"}

[EKOLEV]

What about A-10C skin problem. After last update the bug is stiil there. Please help!