csper Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) I was just looking for old Nevada photos and noticed this. It seems like it is a new 3D F-16 model? :D If it is, but why it is not currently added to DCS? Posted by Wags at here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1967378&postcount=14 Current model: Edited November 12, 2016 by c@sper [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sobek Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 It seems like it is a new 3D F-16 model? :D How can you tell? is it me, or is it a static model? *Very* likely. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
csper Posted November 12, 2016 Author Posted November 12, 2016 How can you tell? It is obvious. Look at these canopies, light effects, nozzles, texture quality... This is the current model. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
CapableJet7 Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 This is for the currently of DCS Nevada or for the 2.5? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BavarianPilot Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 "What are these F16 doing there?" ©tm [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.spare-time-pilots.de Twitch BavarianPilot Youtube BavarianPilot
shagrat Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 It is obvious. Look at these canopies, light effects, nozzles, texture quality... This is the current model. Looks like the canopies show the early bug with reflective textures being solid with no alpha/transparency. The rest is most likely "placebo" from the new shaders first implementation. Just my 2 cent. :dunno: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Pilotasso Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 ED has some work done for an eventual DCS F-16 for several years. The model might be part of this. We even got a few pictures on the forums. Whatever they advance for full production or not (has stopped giving news about it) we dont know. .
csper Posted November 12, 2016 Author Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Looks like the canopies show the early bug with reflective textures being solid with no alpha/transparency. The rest is most likely "placebo" from the new shaders first implementation. Just my 2 cent. :dunno: There is "HR" code on the tail of that models. But in DCS there is no such a skin. I have also seen this: "Other aircraft are in development such as the F-16, F/A-18, and AH-64" http://thebattlesim.com/ I know it is a different sim by ED. But according to this site DCS has every released modules on TBS. So it is a quite possible F-16 and AH-64 are planning for DCS. Edited November 12, 2016 by c@sper [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
shagrat Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 There is "HR" code on the tail of that models. But in DCS there is no such a skin. Interesting, yet I doubt ED could contract an F-16 for DCS, they might have done one for TBS, the military product, but there were vivid discussions about a lot of things the military simulator has, and DCS has not, and may never get. For example, Combined Arms is basically a rework of a functionality in the ANG trainer to train JTAC and Artillery support. It was accidentally in the A-10C Beta for one patch cycle, but was not contracted for DCS so subsequently removed. ED later built Combined Arms with "similar" functionality... Can't say if they got an agreement with the military or did a complete rework from scratch. Doesn't matter anyway, the canopy reflections, definitely look like the old reflection map bug with 0 alpha value. That was with the Nevada map first or second alpha release, if I remember correct. TLDR: I won't get too excited about a texture or model, just as it is an F-16. They tweaked the Nevada map and objects quite a bit over time, to optimize performance and not every texture, hires model, detail might make it into a final release... :dunno: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
SkateZilla Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 There is a new model in the works for the F-16 Eventually.. Search function: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1292024&postcount=22 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1292026&postcount=23 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1292028&postcount=25 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
joey45 Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Taking their time with it tho.:pilotfly: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Silver_Dragon Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 On Progress by ED a F-16C/D on the Vacant model post (Russian post has very outdate). https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104115 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=7689 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
joey45 Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Those posts are from 2011. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Phantom453 Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 "What are these F16 doing there?" ©tm Hahaha +1 for that. :thumbup: We can all dream though.
QuiGon Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 If they're actually working on an F-16 for TBS, then it shouldn't be a problem to just copy the model to DCS and replace the old one with it. I don't think there are any legal problems with that. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Aginor Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Hard to tell because we don't know about the license parameters. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
shagrat Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 If they're actually working on an F-16 for TBS, then it shouldn't be a problem to just copy the model to DCS and replace the old one with it. I don't think there are any legal problems with that. Depends on what is contracted in terms of Intellectual Property, permissions for use in commercial products other than TBS, etc. Legal is often more complex than we think.:noexpression: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Buzzles Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Probably just a new static or AI model. ED have made no secret of the fact they're slowly upgrading all the old LOMAC-era models to something newer and nicer. The current F-16 is a really old model. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
SkateZilla Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Probably just a new static or AI model. ED have made no secret of the fact they're slowly upgrading all the old LOMAC-era models to something newer and nicer. The current F-16 is a really old model. Yeah, But none of the models had Cockpit Renders Teased.. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=503375&postcount=343 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Aginor Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Oh come on, that was 2008, so not only before DCSW but before DCS:A-10C (standalone). "Everything is subject to change" in this case most likely means it was scrapped completely and we will never see it, and for the sake of mental health we should stop believing anything else until there is an official announcement. So please guys, stop bringing up that damn Viper. We should be thankful we will probably get an F/A-18C at some point during the next two years. And even that might still change if you ask me. Because "EVERYTHING". DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Vitormouraa Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Well, if I remember correctly, even Skate said that project was dead, wasn't he? SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
Aginor Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Then I probably misunderstood this post. Might have to do with too little caffeine in the morning.... I would't mind everyone (regardless of the reason) to stop posting links to those pictures. They just cause people to hope for something that most likely will never happen. Yeah, But none of the models had Cockpit Renders Teased.. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=503375&postcount=343 Edited November 17, 2016 by Aginor DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Silver_Dragon Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Remember them.... 2014 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1996107&postcount=52 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
StandingCow Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Remember them.... 2014 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1996107&postcount=52 I guess "development" in DCS could mean so many things, not all of which means actively creating. They could still be looking into it, gathering data, or working on permission... At least that's my thoughts on it. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
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