SkateZilla Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 anything that doesnt have a manfest file, or modifies a module to fail the manifest check will be blocked from loading. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Basically: -Any Mods/Modules w/o a manifest file inside of the DCS World Program Folder, Blocked, Will not Load at all when DCS Starts Up. -Any Mods that modify a module's manifest, Integrity Check Fail, Will Block you from Using DCS World on Integrity Checked Servers. Placing in Saved Games does not Require a Manifest File, for Full Modules or Mods to other Modules, as Saved Games Folder is not Integrity Checked. A manifest file, is what is used to check a software's files to make sure they have not been tampered with. A manifest file in computing is a file containing metadata for a group of accompanying files that are part of a set or coherent unit. For example, the files of a computer program may have a manifest describing the name, version number, license and the constituting files of the program. -Without a Manifest File, DCS World will not load any Modules within the DCS World Program Folder. -If Files do not match the information in the Manifest File, the Install Fails Integrity Check. Edited August 2, 2017 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
crazyeddie Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 So basically my simple JSGME Mod to replace the db_countires.lua file in the games Scripts/Database folder should work, there is nothing to stop it. But it doesn't see it, its weird.
Esac_mirmidon Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 That´s why mods inside root folder doesnt work but inside saved games yes. Thanks Skate. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
SkateZilla Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 So basically my simple JSGME Mod to replace the db_countires.lua file in the games Scripts/Database folder should work, there is nothing to stop it. But it doesn't see it, its weird. Try: /Saved Games/DCS.<install>/Scripts/Database/db_countries.lua Script files are definitely protected. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
crazyeddie Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Tried that, several times already, it didn't work.
funkyfranky Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Seems there is work ahead for me. Thanks for all your input, guys :) A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
Magic Zach Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Test again inside 2.1.1 and you will see they are not working. Only in saved games the mods are detected.I'm telling you all that the mods folder does not have to be in the Saved Games folder. Like most mod users, we have it in the DCS World folder. I'm not saying you can't have it in the Saved Games folder, but your folder for your DCS mods does not have to be specific. As long as you know where your JSGME application is, and where your mods are, it should be OK. I haven't done it in a while though. 2 years. But from what I remember, it depends on the pathways that you set JSGME up with. However, for sake of organization it would be a good idea to have your DCS mods folder either in Saved Games, DCS World, or maybe your Desktop, for some. I've never had my DCS damaged from mods. The only problem I have is when mods get outdated from DCS. Because the many different changes to the 51's glass files, I've had to drag and drop, delete, and also rename some files to keep my beloved Skulleader's cockpit mod functional with the DCS updates. But for damages to DCS World, none yet in my almost 3 years with this awesome simulator. FYI, I have Win10, so maybe it's different for Mac users or other platforms? I'm not trying to be a prick, and say what all the grounds are, but I'm stating MY grounds. If this changes with the coming of 2.5 so I can't leave my mods folder in DCS World anymore, then I will change locations and pathways. I realize that some of the above has already been said, but I'm putting my 2 cents in. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J327A using Tapatalk Edited August 2, 2017 by Magic Zach Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 4090, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5-3600, Samsung 990 PRO Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Germany
Esac_mirmidon Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Thanks. I understand but i,ve should said before i' m not using JGSME. xD. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
crazyeddie Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 It seems illogical for DCS to deny access to certain files by the use of JSGME or such applications, when you can simply overcome that by replacing them manually. I wonder if you can set up 2 JSGME applications for this version of the game, one to mod within the Saved Games folder and 1 to Mod the game itself, only one way to find out ... will let you know.
Magic Zach Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 It seems illogical for DCS to deny access to certain files by the use of JSGME or such applications, when you can simply overcome that by replacing them manually. I wonder if you can set up 2 JSGME applications for this version of the game, one to mod within the Saved Games folder and 1 to Mod the game itself, only one way to find out ... will let you know.If I get what you mean, you're asking if JSGME can be used for 1.5.7 mods, and another JSGME for 2.1.1 mods, yes, you can do that. At this point, I simply cannot mentally play DCS if it doesn't have my favorite texture and sound mods. I never go unmodded. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J327A using Tapatalk Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 4090, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5-3600, Samsung 990 PRO Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Germany
f4l0 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 OVGME supports multiple profiles/applications. I setup one profile for my saved games profiles and one for the DCS installation... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io)
Esac_mirmidon Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 OVGME is the future. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Magic Zach Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 We'll see... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J327A using Tapatalk Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 4090, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5-3600, Samsung 990 PRO Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Germany
crazyeddie Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Or you could just try this if you are using DCS2. Put your new skins and new mods into the appropriate files in the Saved Games Folder, no need for JSGME or anything else really, just do it manually, its simpler. We don't appear to have any other option for that type of change any more in DCS2, so be it. Set up JSGME or that other thing in DCS2 in the usual way and use that to change other files that are not dependent on the Saved Games option, remembering to remove the Mod before an update, and reinsert when the update is done.
f4l0 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Yeah, but what if DCS updates and a particular mod stopped working/crashes DCS. Then it's easier to remove it with OVGME... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io)
MurderOne Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Well, I too updated finally to the latest build, and lost my mods. I am not any sort of computer programming type person, so tried my hand with the ovg deal, tried moving things, no joy. I certainly wish this was easier to do. I would rather spend my time building missions and flying things around than trying to figure out where to place my mods. No more VSN_(anything) for me, for now. Unless I stay in 1.5, where everything still seems to work. But 2.1xxx is so nice... Sorry, no cool signature here.
Ghostrider142 Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Hi all, just updated and my mods stopped working, I was getting the msg in the mission load screen that I am missing mods, that I have. I copied my entire 'aircraft' and 'tech' folders to my saved games/mods folder, still getting the message. Is this what others are experiencing? I'm late to the update just for reasons like this, but this evening I decided to join the mess. i7-4770K @3.50GHz; EVGA 1070 8GB Superclocked; 16GB Ram; MSI Z97 Gaming; two Samsung 500GB SSD's in RAID; TrackIR; 32" 2560x1440 Samsung
Chump Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Does your Saved Games folder look similar to this? https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3215163&postcount=10 The whole new "thing" is that all add-on air/ground units (anything with an entry.lua) will need to be placed in your Saved Games directory structure. This is how I understand it, and this is how I got everything working again. 1
Ghostrider142 Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 I fixed it by deleting the mods from Eagle Dynamics/DCS World 2 Open Alpha/mods (I'd forgot to do that) when I moved them to Saved Games/DCS.openalpha/mods and restarted my PC. Cheers for the help i7-4770K @3.50GHz; EVGA 1070 8GB Superclocked; 16GB Ram; MSI Z97 Gaming; two Samsung 500GB SSD's in RAID; TrackIR; 32" 2560x1440 Samsung
REDEYE_CVW-66 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Tell me this: Can I load up mods in my SAVED GAMES folder, and still access multiplayer sessions with integrity check? (As it would only load from the core game folder?)
HiJack Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Tell me this: Can I load up mods in my SAVED GAMES folder, and still access multiplayer sessions with integrity check? (As it would only load from the core game folder?) Depends on the MOD. Liveries, yes.
ApoNOOB Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 But the english cockpit mods are still not working via saved games folders, right?
uboats Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 But the english cockpit mods are still not working via saved games folders, right? i think cockpit mod works in saved game you just put it in liveries folder i.e. saved game/dcs.xxx/Liveries/Cockpit_xxx(depending on the cockpit model edm file name)/english/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
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