31 Dec 2017 Live Stream (Discussion)

[Mule]

I was genuinely blown away by how good the new map looks. I am looking forward to that more than the Hornet now. Don't get me wrong I'm getting that Hornet as soon as I can but man oh man I can't wait to fly a helicopter and all the other modules I have on that map. There was even talk of Combined Arms getting updated to integrate with it. So much good coming from DCS these days.

[Pikey]

ah it was I for integrated not internal, that makes a lot more sense now!

I'm looking forward to have to thinking about fuel a lot more.

[M1Combat]

New trees will stop the dirt huggers, So i wouldnt worry in trying to get to low hhaha :lol:

 

Nope...

 

Now we'll be tree huggers :).

[Emmy]

I'm hoping power lines will also be plane catchers...

[Buckeye]

Nightwolf is correct.

 

NATOPS:

 

A-A refueling will become much more important with the Hornet. But I'm really looking forward to "taking her up" as Wags said, instead of painfully climbing foot by foot as in the A-10C :joystick:

 

Comes with the territory on carrier ops...inherently a paramount will be placed on AAR :thumbup: I love it!

 

Same can be done currently with taking off from the carrier on the Tarawa in the Harrier.

[Weasel]

With the hornet air refueling will get even more important

[Kev2go]

Thx for more Hornet footage, though was hoping to have seen some A/G attack beyond rockets such as CCIP & CCRP bombing.

Edited January 3, 2018 by Kev2go

[_Spad_]

With the hornet air refueling will get even more important

 

Yep, particularly if you plug in the A/B a lot. Looked as though he was full A/B for a lot of that video.

 

I hope A/A refuelling will be easier in the Hornet than the A-10C, given the FBW system.

[Shadow KT]

Hey, I have a question. I know it is a WiP.

 

On the stream, we all know how Wags, miss clicked the L Gen and the central MFD and the left one went blank, meaning that the power was cut to them.

 

Is this a feature ? On all the other aircraft like the A-10, where you also have two AC generators, if one generator goes off, the other one takes the load

 

Just curious, is this how it is supposed to be ?

 

And the consequences of that action also seemed a bit strange, maybe not yet modeled properly, resulting in a bugged TVV ?

 

Anyway, great job on 2.5 and the Hornet, almost feinted when I saw the wing flex, twice, on stream and on the video afterwards :thumbup:

[Eddie]

Looks like he knocked off all the primary aircraft power. This in turn caused the INS to power down and loose its alignment. Such an issue would be cause to abort the takeoff.

 

Entirely expected behaviour for pretty much any aircraft in the case of total power failure, and could have been solved by performing another ground alignment or an in flight alignment (assuming they are implemented at this point). But you’re right in that it shouldn’t have triggered a total power failure in the first place, so something must not be functional yet.

Edited January 3, 2018 by Eddie

[Shadow KT]

Well, the stream video is probably unlisted now, so I can't give proof, but I clearly remember that only the central and left MFDs went out, the right one still had power, meaning only partial power loss.

 

Well, of course that partial power loss, could have also knocked out the INS, resulting in what we saw, but it definitely wasn't full electric power loss

[Eddie]

Hmmm, don’t remember that detail. So if that was the case then it’s likely something in the electrical systems not tied together yet.

[Shadow KT]

Yeah, probably.

 

That is what made me so curious about it.

 

Cheers

[Bullant]

I'm surprised nobody has chipped Wags for dropping the gear well in excess (by over 100 kts) of the 250 kt limit ;)

[asla36]

I'm surprised nobody has chipped Wags for dropping the gear well in excess (by over 100 kts) of the 250 kt limit ;)

... And the 240 kt recommendation.

[Weta43]

They have...

[neofightr]

I'm surprised nobody has chipped Wags for dropping the gear well in excess (by over 100 kts) of the 250 kt limit ;)

 

I instantly noticed this on the youtube video posting and commented on it.

 

It would have sent chills down my spine if I had done that back in my flying days because I would have to come back and hope there was no missing pieces in the wheel well after landing. Then I would have to do the walk of shame to the hangars and explain what I did to the maintenance chief and then I would have to grovel and ask forgiveness from the dept head and eventually the CO.

 

The good news is that due to the massive and beefy landing gear (thanks to landing on a ship) the potential damage would have been minimal.

[neofightr]

Hey, I have a question. I know it is a WiP.

 

On the stream, we all know how Wags, miss clicked the L Gen and the central MFD and the left one went blank, meaning that the power was cut to them.

 

Is this a feature ? On all the other aircraft like the A-10, where you also have two AC generators, if one generator goes off, the other one takes the load

 

Just curious, is this how it is supposed to be ?

 

And the consequences of that action also seemed a bit strange, maybe not yet modeled properly, resulting in a bugged TVV ?

 

Anyway, great job on 2.5 and the Hornet, almost feinted when I saw the wing flex, twice, on stream and on the video afterwards :thumbup:

 

It's been too long from my flying days but if I remember correctly the gens were of redundant design but I believe certain secondary systems would not be fully supported by one gen.

 

If one gen cutout you would see a flicker of displays but that's about it (when on the ground).

 

Never had that situation in the air thankfully because that meant something bad just happened to one of the engines (the gens were pretty reliable and simple so mech failure was unheard of).

 

BTW to turn off the gens via the switch you had to pull out then lower the switch so accidentally doing this was impossible thankfully.

[Bullant]

Question for Wags.

 

At 3:14 we get a clear view of the Dispenser/EMC panel.

 

Is it intentional that the rotary is:

a) labelled ALQ-126 whereas it is labelled EMC in the NATOPS manual?, and

b) that it is duplicated (the bottom instance does not exist in the NATOPS manual)?

 

[Blech]

Hi,

 

Perhaps the explanation :

The lower one seems no to be an duplictate - it´s labled ALQ-162

But the clock is missing

 

"On many Navy aircraft the AN/ALQ-126 is supplemented by the ALQ-162 specialised continuous wave (CW) trackbreaker"

https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alq-126.htm

[Bullant]

The lower one seems no to be an duplictate - it´s labled ALQ-162

 

That'd be it, a slight case of dyslexia, I read them both as ALQ-126

[mig29movt]

As far as I understood we will get a new type of panel, as explained in this thread

The new panel is shown in this post (same thread)

 

Found it (post by Wags):

 

- Initially we planned the ALR-69, ALE-39, and ALQ-126B due to available data. However, we now feel we can do a pretty accurate simulation of the ALE-47 and ALQ-165 systems. This will also involve an update to the cockpit to include the Integrated Countermeasures Control Panel (ICMCP).

[Blech]

As far as I understood we will get a new type of panel, as explained in this thread

The new panel is shown in this post (same thread)

 

Found it (post by Wags):

 

Thx

 

Update from Wags - 01-10-2018

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3350852&postcount=26

Edited January 10, 2018 by Blech

[SkateZilla]

It has been discussed previously, Originally ED did not have enough data on the newer CM Panel/System, and instead was going to model the older version, However this has changed and they had to build the new panel for the cockpit..

[Alfa]

As far as I understood we will get a new type of panel, as explained in this thread

The new panel is shown in this post (same thread)

 

Found it (post by Wags):

 

For those who are interested - IIRC the ALE-47 has four main operational modes:

 

- automatic where the system gathers information from various sensors and, when appropriate, initiates dispensing automatically without any action from the operator(pilot).

 

- semi-automatic - really the same as above except that it doesn't starts dispensing automatically, but only prompts the pilot to.

 

- manual - a continuation of the system in the previous ALE-39, where the pilot can select between a series of preset dispensing programs.

 

- dispenser by-pass, which gives the pilot direct control of the dispensers - there is a switch on the CM panel to turn it on/off.