Svend_Dellepude Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 We already have the F-16A its called F-5E. Not even close. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Wizard_03 Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) Not even close. So Block 10 and below, From a mission standpoint is pretty close. Heaters and unguided weapons only. Edited May 5, 2018 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
Vitormouraa Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 Block 10 and bellow, From a mission standpoint is pretty close. Heaters and unguided weapons only. From that point of view, yes but in terms of performance there is a huge difference. :) SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
Wizard_03 Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 From that point of view, yes but in terms of performance there is a huge difference. :) Yeah I realize that, but all I’m saying is that it would a big let down, at least for me, to have all the performance and features of a frontline fighter, but only be able to use it in the exact same roles as the F5 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
mvsgas Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) K I know they are totally different aircraft, but as far what you are actually going to be doing in the sim. They are effectively the same thing. F-16A brings nothing to the table, again as far as the actual missions I would be able to use it for, not in terms of what it is *edit* M2K might have been a better example but it has radar guided missiles I get you point, it is true, but the same can be said about f-16C (Up to block 40). During ODS 1, they only drop dumb bombs and mavericks. Regardless, we don't know what we get. Whet version, year etc. 9__ (that means nineline...:D )mention the C, so we will have to wait and see. Edit; I think some block 30 might have used AGM-88 but not sure. Edited May 5, 2018 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
cichlidfan Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 9__ (that means nineline...:D ) :lol: Glad you explained that but it is perfect. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
beppe_goodoldrebel Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 Regardless, we don't know what we get. Whet version, year etc. 9__ (that means nineline...:D )mention the C, so we will have to wait and see. Did someone already know about those old pics? Classic Block 50 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1781050&postcount=5998
mvsgas Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) Considering they have been around since before bs1 came out IIRC, I say yeah, we have been talking about it for a long time. BS1 came out when? Nov 2008? Edited May 11, 2018 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 So, F-16C...I wonder if they will base the model on the Greek version? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
ED Team NineLine Posted May 15, 2018 ED Team Posted May 15, 2018 Cleaned the thread a little, topic is DCS: F-16C, please stay on topic. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
mvsgas Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Thanks 9__. I wonder if 91-0404 is still at the weapons school in Nellie afb? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Kayos Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Do you think it will be fairly easy to copy the F-18 systems to the F-16 and tweek them so you don't have to build them from scratch to speed up the process? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 I wonder if that would be easier or will be better to use lessons learn from the F/A-18 and start from scratch on the F-16. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
sobek Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Do you think it will be fairly easy to copy the F-18 systems to the F-16 and tweek them so you don't have to build them from scratch to speed up the process? No. Surely some lessons learned can be applied, but a lot of the systems are very different. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
beppe_goodoldrebel Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 I wonder if that would be easier or will be better to use lessons learn from the F/A-18 and start from scratch on the F-16. Avionics are different but almost all weapons are shared. A/G radar should be quite similar (at least in the output). The next livestream of Crash Laobi's YT channel will feat Wags with some QA from the subscribers... there will be a question like that proposed by me... so , wait and see ...:D
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Wags has stated that one of the main reasons to develop the Hornet, is that it's built upon a framework which can be exported to future modules, reducing their development time. It will be more difficult than simply copy/paste, but sure the Hornet will improve DCS as a whole even for those who will never set foot in its virtual cockpit :-) Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Baz000 Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 What is this thing that looks like a sidewinder but clearly it isn't? Its under the ACMI pod... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggressor_squadron#/media/File:F16C_Aggressor.jpg
razo+r Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 What is this thing that looks like a sidewinder but clearly it isn't? Its under the ACMI pod... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggressor_squadron#/media/File:F16C_Aggressor.jpg A training sidewinder without fins I guess...
Baz000 Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Thats what I was thinking too... But they have a dummy captive AIM-9 loaded up also???
ED Team cofcorpse Posted May 19, 2018 ED Team Posted May 19, 2018 I think, it can be something like this: Acceleration Monitor Assembly (AMA) pod. Is is on the left wing tip on the picture below. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/F-16C_Fighting_Falcon.JPEG
Emmy Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Thats what I was thinking too... But they have a dummy captive AIM-9 loaded up also??? You put the concrete tube opposite the training round for balance... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com
Baz000 Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) it looks like that AMA pod that cofcorpse is talking about so what does the AMA pod do exactly? Edited May 19, 2018 by Baz000
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) What is this thing that looks like a sidewinder but clearly it isn't? Its under the ACMI pod... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggressor_squadron#/media/File:F16C_Aggressor.jpg If your talking about station 2 and 9, there are just there for the drag and weight for training. It has not electronics nor any connections to the aircraft. Click on image to enlarge U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Nathan Mendoza escorts Airman 1st Class Tyler Lounds, both aircraft armament systems technicians from the 354th Maintenance Squadron, as Tyler drives the MJU-1 Jammer munition vehicle on the way to an F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter aircraft while working swing shift June 14, 2016, during RED FLAG-Alaska (RF-A) 16-2 at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska. Jets are flown almost double the normal hours during RF-A, increasing the need for maintenance, which provides training for support personnel in sustainment of large-force deployed air operations. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Shawn Nickel/Released) Edited May 19, 2018 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 I can't wait when we get an F-16 and someone complains that the canopy glass is to dirty and that it is not realistic. click on image to enlarge (large image) To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Vitormouraa Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 Who needs it anyway, Hornet all the way :D (Joking) SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
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